On Rutgers' "Dueling Camp" - Ash Never Responded to Harbaugh's Invite
This is from a free article by Steve Lorenz on 247:
An interesting addendum to the above, and one that hasn't been reported: Michigan actually originally approached Rutgers about a camp at Paramus Catholic, with an aim for a "maximum exposure" type camp that would have had over 30 staffs on board. Rutgers head coach Chris Ash told Michigan that he would consider it, but announced the joint camp with Ohio State before formally (or informally) responding to Michigan's invitation.
I am going to be very happy to see Michigan stomp Rutgers this year.
Rutgers is there for the sloppy seconds.
It seems Rutgers is becoming our new Illinois and Ash is Mike White.
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And if Durkin wasn't a mature adult.
rivalry you mean Bo curb stomping Illinois for screwing over Moeller??? LOL Bo didn't run up the score often but against Illinios it was on like donkey kong...
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young to remember those games... but when i got those books that the detnew and freep put out after Bo died, 1 of them had the scores of the game from each season he coached... i was amazed that Bo was hanging that many points on another Big 10 team on a regular basis...
The Big Ten aside from Michigan and Ohio State was just not very good for most years between 1969 and 1980. There were some exceptions (Michigan State in 1978 comes to mind) but for the most part only Michigan and Ohio State were seriously in the running for the title.
the Biting Illini and their band of dirty jucos under White. Which year was it those sumbitches won the conference title, went to the Rose Bowl and got ass stomped by U.C.L.A I think it was? I was really pissed.
Result: UCLA 45, Illinois 9
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Living in the Chicago area, it was like a plague of Illinois fans came out of the woodwork that season. People I never knew went to Illinois or cared about anything other than basketball were totally in my face and I never got in theirs, because...Illinois. I told them to enjoy their 1 year of success and then loved the beatings we consistently applied to them after that year. [I'll ignore the 3-3 tie in 1985 which I didn't even need to verify because it was so damn frustrating.]
Yeah, about that rivalry... I watched a boatload of UM games in the 80's, and I still don't fully understand the rivalry with Illinois!
You had one job Rutgers, and that was to get into the NYC market! Now look at you.
I know he's Rutgers coach and we'll definitely beat that ass come fall. But he hates Michigan because he was taught to, very well by Urban Meyer. They don't play around down there, you hate Michigan with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind or get the hell out.
He spent more years at Wisconsin and Arkansas under Bert.
Takes a year.
Bert Bielema on the left? I can't tell.
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Ash is putting in place the Dantonio strategy it seems like. Define a specific enemy, in both cases Michigan(coming from Ohio St. it's not like either man was going to pick anyone else), and build your program in opposition to said enemy.
Frankly, this pisses me off, there's no reason a "Maximum Exposure" type camp couldn't have happened, except Ash deciding he needs to be a dick about this. The comments of the recruits he's gotten in opposition to Harbaugh have been revealing, too.
It's time to crush these assholes on the field, no letdown games allowed.
See them driven before you...
and hear the lamentation of the cheerleaders...
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They're in a couple of the recruiting roundups about the Jersey guys, Bo Melton and the Offensive Tackle are the prime ones. After that we're in let me google that for you territory.
If he was already arranging plans, then you simply replay with a "no". To not reply at all seems rather deuchy and deserves a beat down.
where did you get that photo of Bert @ a Rutgers game?
Ash had Urb pinky swear that he wouldn't recruit the Garden State.
Can't really blame them. What else is a MAC-level program with no realistic chance of ever winning their conference supposed to do to give the appearance of relevancy?
They are about as bad as it gets. I am sure one of their semi-fans will be starting a Michigan/Rutgers rivalry wikipedia page by the time the season rolls around.
Why am I outraged about this? Chris Ash/Rutgers has been losing recruits to Michigan since BH*, so he did not want to camp with us.
I checked all my pockets twice, and also my socks and the lining of my jacket. I can't find a single fuck to give about this (other than I feel bad for kids that would like exposure to both programs). So maybe a tiny, itty-bitty, baby fuck, that will never get much bigger - since those kids will be getting good exposure at either the UofM-led or OSU-led camps.
Let them have their "Alternative Prom". We'll just have a great time at the real prom, and get revenge through good living.
* Does "BH" mean "Before Harbaugh" or "Brady Hoke"? Or BOTH?
So instead of participating in one maximum exposure camp that would have allowed the greatest number of kids to be seen by the greatest number of coaches, they instead choose to hold a competing camp at the same time ensuring that less kids will be seen by less coaches, all to spite Harbaugh essentially? Did I get that right? Okay, we can formally cross off Ash and Urb as coaches who care about the kids more than themselves.
Seriously, why would Ash and Urb not want to participate in one big camp and let all the kids see all the coaches than to pull this shit just to be petty? They look like clowns by forcing the kids to choose one or the other camp.
Exactly, you'd hope more HS coaches, players, and parents would realize how shitty of OSU and Rutgers this was to do, limited their exposure and opportunity.
... Meyer and Ash don't want to be diminished by Harbaugh's passion, energy, and EUTM.
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I didn't even know Rutgers had a football coach
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Harbaugh is going to fucking kill Rutgers.
I think *Harbaugh* has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in *New Jersey* are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.
If someone wants to find a reason to hate you, they will find a reason to hate you.
See the story here - http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/05/michigan_coaches_to…
Harbaugh is going to be in Alabama that day, so he won't be in attendance. The article doesn't say how many or which U-M coaches will be at the event.
I assume Harbaugh will be making both of the Alabama camps on June 6 and 7. Pearl H.S. in northern Mississippi is on the morning of June 8 and the camp at Paramus Catholic in New Jersey starts in the very late afternoon. The high school commencent address at Paramus is on June 9 (the same date when there are two camps in Ohio scheduled along with the first day of Sound Mind, Sound Body).
Another fine example of dirtbags putting their own interests in front of the interests of student athletes who would have benefitted from the chance at exposure to both camps.
Well done little OSU puppet Ash, and Urbz for going along with it.
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