Michigan Stadium seating capacity reduced by 2k

Submitted by The Mad Hatter on

Following several seating adjustments, Michigan Stadium's ticketed seating capacity has been slightly reduced.

The iconic 88-year-old Michigan Stadium remains college football's largest venue, but increasing its accessibility and configuration adjustments for major non-football events led to a decrease in the total number of seats by just over 2,000 to create the new official capacity of 107,601.

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080715aaa.html

 

gb21

August 7th, 2015 at 6:05 PM ^

I actually think this will speed up the next phase of the expansion process especially since the ticket waiting list is back. It would not surprise me to see the south end zone expansion in the next 2-3 years. It could be even sooner if Texas expands DKR to 114,000. 

BTW-They finally installed yellow goal posts. The previous ones (which never made sense to me) were always white.

creelymonk10

August 7th, 2015 at 10:53 AM ^

I thought we had already reduced capacity to comply with ADA standards several years ago. Did ADA standards change in the few years since, and if so wouldn't we be grandfathered in and only have to change if we had new construction? 

MeanJoe07

August 7th, 2015 at 10:56 AM ^

What do they say at Eastern Michigan?

Congratulatios on being part of the smallest crowd watching a football game today.  (crickets and then one barely audible clap).

Blue_sophie

August 7th, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^

It's kinda nerdy,
But it is truly remarkable how quickly the big house can empty out at the end of a game. Really it is an architectural achievement (of sorts). But God forbid if something terrible ever happened at a game that required people to evacuate, it is critical that the stadium accommodate people with disabilities.

creelymonk10

August 7th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^

I agree, but don't people in wheelchairs use the same aisles as everyone else to enter and exit? I feel like if there was a mass evacuation, they'd be stuck waiting until everyone else left, unless there were some generous people trying to hold back the hundreds of people pushing forward from behind to let them go first.

Blue_sophie

August 7th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^

Very true, people in wheelchairs will always have a tough time in a mass evacuation. Typically there are designated "areas of refuge" where they can safely wait for fire fighters or emergency responders to assist them. The more pressing concern are elderly people, people with cardiovascular disease or advanced diabetes, even young people with, say, a broken leg. These "disabilities" (a disputed term) are widespread throughout the general population. Wider aisles and handrails will help many people navigate the stadium during an emergency.

Picktown GoBlue

August 7th, 2015 at 10:24 PM ^

I'll avoid politics here but must say I find it interesting how much has to get specified in the consent decree. 

And to think it all started in 1997 for the fellow in the article.  The consent decree timeline starts with a complaint in 1999, by 2000 there was no problem, it popped up again in 2004, investigation took at least 3 years, and then while investigating in 2007 the Michigan Paralyzed Veterans of America filed their suit - that finally went for a "quick" settlement as laid out in the consent decree, reached in 2008.  Decree lasted 5 years, so it was done in 2012 or 2013.  15 years, plus the 3 more years to get to today.

Interesting that it was a UM lecturer who defended the plaintiffs against UM.  Learned in this article that he is blind.

As predicted in article, the 1% requirement was dropped back.  I see that 2010 ADA rules for stadium wheelchair seating are:

  • For seating capacities exceeding 5,000, the number required is 36, plus 0.5% of the number of seats in excess of 5,000.

If the 109,901 had been held to that status instead of the agreed-upon consent decree, there'd need to be 561 wheelchair spaces.  For 107,601, that would be 550 seats.  By the decree, there were only 329 (plus 329 companion seats).

In a Michigan Daily article on the settlement,

Because wheelchair-accessible seats take up about 12 times as much space as normal seats, the changes will also drop the stadium's seat capacity from 107,501 to an estimated 106,201 for the 2008 and 2009 seasons. That will make Michigan Stadium the second-largest football stadium in the country after Penn State University's Beaver Stadium, which holds 107,282.

University officials said they don't know what the stadium's capacity will be after the expansion project and said they don't know whether it will again become the biggest. The project will add a total of 5,100 seats, but some of the stadium's existing seats will be removed to make room for the addition.

The pre-settlement project estimate said the stadium's capacity by the conclusion of the project in 2010 would top 108,000, an addition of 500 seats from the start of the project. But because today's settlement will remove an estimated 1,500 seats from the bowl, it's unclear whether that will be enough to make Michigan Stadium the biggest again.

So the math seems to be:

107,501 minus 2300 from the lawsuit takes the '08/'09 capacity down to 106,201.  Expansion would have added 500 to get to 108,001 but the settlement reduces that by 1500 (huh??), resulting in 106,501.  But the expansion actually ended up getting the capacity up 2400 to 109,901.  And it looks like the original 2300 reduction from the settlement is what brings that number down to today's, 107,601.

Original descriptions of the expansion project included "wider aisles and handrails in the aisles."  So there's that.

But, best part of your links - learned a new word "vomitory" - woo!

MLaw06

August 7th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^

Per Section III.C.10 in the Consent Decree, UofM had to negotiate in good faith as to whether additional permanent wheelchair seating should be added to the stadium.  My guess is that the latest changes likely rose from such negotiations.

"10. At the end of the 2010 football season, the parties will negotiate in good faith regarding whether additional permanent wheelchair seating should be added to the Stadium. The parties agree to initiate such negotiations at a time and place mutually agreeable to all counsel and at the invitation of any party, consistent with the terms of this Consent Decree. In no event shall the negotiations be unreasonably delayed. The parties agree to meet no later than January 31, 2011."

Blue_sophie

August 7th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^

And just to clarify, ADA is not a building code in the sense that you can't just design a building to meet the letter of the law and be done with it. It is a piece of federal civil rights legislation. Accommodations are continuously being requested for various situations, and these are commonly litigated. The 2007 lawsuit was a bad look for the University (especially given that it was filed by a veterans organization) but not anything unusual for a large building.

Hill Street Blue

August 7th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^

Is very Leaders and Best, IMO.  Years ago, the school had to get sued to be forced into compliance.  That was embarassing and disrespectful to fans that have a physical disability -- and definitely not Leaders and Best.

Hill Street Blue

August 9th, 2015 at 12:42 AM ^

Is always an embarassment.  

The statutes, right or wrong, clearly spelled out the needed number of seats.  Regent Kathy White voted against the expansion on the first go-round, in part, because it didn't comply with the ADA.  It passed anyway, but then came the lawsuit.  By the way, the ADA spec's out the bare minimum needed in a facility.

As of for the unused seats, until recently, if you wanted to use them, there was a complicated comical game-day system that depressed demand.  It required you to go, in your wheelchair, walker, whatever, to first gain admittance to the stadium.  Then you had to go to Crisler to get a ticket exchange.  Then you had to go back out into the stadium to find your accessible seat.  That system was dumped (under Brandon), and in recent years, it's become hard to obtain an accessible seat.