Andrew Harrison When Asked About Kaminsky
Whoa, no need to drag Gary Coleman's name through the mud.
It was the same twin that air balled the 3 in that critical situation last night.
Hate to admit it, but I had a Schadenfreude moment when it happened.
Anyone else think of Aaron Craft?
It should be wrong for anybody to say the n word whether from black person to black or white to black.
It shouldn't be wrong for anyone to say anything unless they meant it hurtfully. You think every time someone has ever said, "retartded", they were mocking the mentally handicapped? The word has simply come to mean stupid. Whether or not the original connotation was hurtful shouldn't have any bearing on a given conversation. We should all be more evolved than that.
And how are we possibly supposed to judge someone's true intentions? Why not just avoid using slurs, whether it refers to your own race/ethicity/national origin/sexuality or not?
Yeah. F^ck that polack would be far more appropriate.
You're a retartd.
Or maybe society should just accept that some words are off limits to certain people on the basis of their race/culture/history/orientation etc.
But it's not quite that simple, because once we decree that a word is "off-limits", that tends to increase its desirability among certain uncultured segments of society. I have known white people who will use this word precisely because it's offensive. I don't think the N word will ever stop being controversial.
At any rate, the "fuck" part of this soundbite is kind of significant, too - and it's a little harder to defend.
That is the fault of those people. It's the whole forbidden fruit concept and it's juvenile imo. There are so many alternative ways to express oneself without appropriating or insulting others etc etc.
But yes, I agree the first word is more headshake worthy than the third word.
But that's just it. The people I've referred to were fully aware that it's an offensive term, and used it for that reason. They would even (mockingly) defend their use, saying things like "They know they're n****s. They say it themselves."
This is a problem with "reclaiming" hate speech. If you use a term while simultaneously taking offense to it (when used by others), then you end up keeping the offensive term in regular circulation. I'd argue that it's better to just let the word die out.
It certainly shouldn't be acceptable for some to say and some not. That is what woule be called racism if the discerning factor was indeed race.
White people losing thier careers over a slip of the tongue while kenya west makes millions saying it. That's bullshit!
Kentucky is so hateable. It's great. Sports needs villains.
I hate Wisconsin and Bo Ryan, but I was happy they won tonight. What does that tell you?
it tells me you will have siginificant cognitive dissonance and will be seeing your therapist frequently in the near future?
Very classless display by UK and also Harrison. He did apologize to Kaminsky, so there's that.
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beat these a-holes, even though it cost me my bracket pool.
I feel sorry for Harrison.
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No he doesn't. He's in college and is not projected to be drafted in this or next year's draft.
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probably cost him his bonus. I'd be pretty upset too. . .
It's interesting how everyone is focusing on the third word he said and not the first, which isn't terribly polite to say about somebody in a press conference either.
The only reason this is wrong is because he said, "F that Guy" in a press conference, which you can't do. I've heard what he said hundreds of times directed at many different people and it's not a big deal.
I am a 37 yr old white guy and the last thing I am ever going to do is get upset about an African American using that word. I think Andrew should be disappointed in himself for dropping the F bomb in the presser on national tv and find it really strange that he chose that word to refer to Kaminsky. However, I think it's pretty clear that it's his way of saying, "Fuck that guy." after a frustrating loss.
It'd be kinda great if Kaminsky just went full Richard Sherman on Harrison. Scoreboard!
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Could you imagine if it was the other way around and Kaminsky had said that about Harrison? The world would explode in outrage and it would be 'breaking news' on ESPN.
No I can't b/c Kaminsky would either say "fuck that guy" or "fuck that cracker" since that is the equivalent of what Harrison said.
If Harrison said cracker instead, then yeah your scenario might be applicable.
He used a racist term. If a white player did that it would be a national news story. Be PC all you want, but the media has selective outrage.
No shit b/c if a white person was saying the N word to a black person, he probably isn't meaning it in a "general" sense...He probably means it in a 3/5 of a person sense. Especially a white guy from the middle of Wisconsin. Now unless you are Eminem, Fat Joe or some person who is completely okayed and associated with black culture/people while not being black, you won't get away with saying the N word as a substitute for "friend" or "dude" to some random black guy.
Now, if you're referring to the argument of what would happen if Harrison called Kaminsky a cracker? Then yeah there would be more outrage than this, but probably not as much the other way around partially due to cracker being a much more newer term with less of a history when used by blacks vs the N word used by whites.
B. In this context and from this speaker it is not a racist term.
C. Yes of course if a white player said it it would be a bigger story because white people have used the term in the past towards black people as part of denigrating through racism. In which cause it should certainly cause more outrage.
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There may be threads about it on college sports blogs late at night, but ESPN has yet to mention it. I guess we will see what happens tomorrow and the the days after.