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Somewhere in Arizona a coach is smiling.....
November 30th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^
The 3-9 team was a transition year to a brand new system with a brand new coach after a lot of transfers, and losing Henne, Hart, Long.
This team was year 4 of an established coach, with a 4 year DC, with loads of 4 star talent everywhere, in probably a worst conference than in 2008. Add all the off the field stuff and the fact this season was over by the first week in October (Utah and Minn games effectively ended the season), and she is right. This team did not have all the excuses the 08 team had.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^
worst michigan team ever in terms of expectations and preformance on the field
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November 30th, 2014 at 11:35 AM ^
This team is far and away more talented than the 08 team but didn't perform much better, which, to me, makes it more disappointing
November 30th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^
We expected a lot more for the team with a seasoned QB and the piss poor quality of the Big Ten. We thought we make some great strides and were even pointing to 2015 as the year we were going to stick it to OSU and MSU. Well here we are again but this time there is no way anyone can or is on here arguing to give Hoke another year.
His inability to lead this team was prevalent and he was nothing more than a cheerleader
November 30th, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
I don't know if this team was worse than the '08 team, although its certainly close.
But if she's taking everything into consideration, from the athletic department fiascos, Frank Clark's situation, dwindling attendance, and everything in between, then yes, this could possibly be considered the worst season ever.
Everything that could possibly go wrong for this team did go wrong, and the things we thought couldn't possibly get worse indeed did get worse.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^
when people are trying to figure out which team would prevail in the cripple fight of 2008 vs 2014.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
didn't get to play Maryland and Rutgers. 2014 lost to both
November 30th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^
Rutgers' most relevant time as a national football power was in 1869. Maryland is best known for their goofy UA uniforms. They are lesser programs, whether or not they beat Michigan or any other team.
November 30th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^
This honestly is one of our myriad of problems.
"So what you beat us and made us look incompetant at football. You're still beneath us!"
November 30th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^
Dude neg me all you want, but it's true. Go ahead and perceive us as having a better and stronger program than those schools all you want. The only place it really matters (on the field), they were better than us this year. I don't care how much better on paper we appeared to be going into this season, the scoreboard after 4 quarters said we weren't. So drone on about how far beneath ours their programs are. It does not matter come Saturdays. Not with this program. Not right now. So this mindset that other programs that beat ours right now are still "beneath us" really needs to go away. We aren't entitled to shit right now. One of our biggest issues is one of mindset. And that's one of the first ones that needs to go away.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
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November 30th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^
2008 v. 2014
FEI Rank:
Overall: 70 (2008) 62 (2014)
Offensive: 81 (2008) 90 (2014)
Defensive: 44 (2008) 40 (2014)
Hard to claim there is much of a difference there.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:58 PM ^
teams were stocked with top ten recruiting classes like the 2014 team.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
52-14 over FEI #114 App. St.
34-10 over FEI #107 Miami (OH)
18-13 over FEI #51 Penn State
34-10 over FEI #77 Indiana (whose rating is boosted by their early season performances when they still had their QB)
10-9 over #47 Northwestern
We averaged 16.5 ppg against Power 5 teams, going 3-7.
All this with a roster that is top 10 in talent.
Not to mention, there's more to a team than just the results. As the beat writer, she's been around Schembechler Hall since spring practice and fall camp.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
Completely agree, with the clown Hoke as the leader of the three ring circus.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^
Worst UM team she has covered period. Of course it is in the context of raw ability, expectations, VERY WEAK SCHEDULE and it is HOKE'S 4th YEAR!
November 30th, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^
I would have NEVER thought back in August, with that PATHETIC schedule, that Michigan would have had less than 9 wins this season... and Angel is a Michigan homer too!
November 30th, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^
In strictly statistical terms, the 2008 3-9 team would have to the worst. Wins and losses trump all other considerations. Two additional losses is too much to cover by comparison to yardage, turnovers, etc.
But if you want to play feelingsball and make allowance for the intangibles, then there's a pretty strong case for this being the worst team -- the visual evidence for our quarterback regressing even while his offensive line and running backs improved, Funchess mailing it in against Maryland, the competent defense with the tendency to break down against quality opponents at the worst possible moment, all the controversy over concussions and gameday management in general.
Chengelis is a beat reporter, not a stathead, so from her perch this makes sense. Whether you agree with her depends on just how much you are oriented toward stats versus everything else.
Statheads and sentimentalists should all be able to agree on one thing though: This season was pretty bad.
November 30th, 2014 at 3:32 PM ^
she in fact put up the stats of this year, the offense still rank 100+ in NCAA in most categtories. But I think she was trying to make points for no improbement this season.
November 30th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^
No link?
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November 30th, 2014 at 5:33 PM ^
This fuss over what a journalist like Angelique says entirely misses what I think is the most interesting tidbit on the broadcast.
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=901&c=17623&f=3630103
In Segment 5 former player and assistant Bob Thornbladh states that Les Miles would crawl over razor blades to coach Michigan, and that Harbaugh has "a great love" for the school, "so these men are available."
He's in a pretty good position, better than most, to have a feel for these coaches.
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November 30th, 2014 at 5:54 PM ^
I hate this thread.
November 30th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^