What is gained by keeping Hoke until the end of the season?
October 25th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^
I'm not going to say that recruiting is overrated, but great coaches get the best out of what they have no matter who it is. I'm worried about the players caring at this point, and firing Hoke might just light a fire under their asses.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:29 PM ^
But you're not going to land the great coach in October. We can't officially go searching for a coach for another month still. In the meantime you may as well keep Hoke there as a placeholder.
October 25th, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^
I don't think a pointless mid season firing helps with attracting the next coach. It may be a small effect--a Harbaugh isn't going to be scared away by it--so let me rephrase the question...
What do you gain by firing Hoke mid-season?
A chance to see what Nuss can do as HC? He's not producing as OC.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
They have most of the contact with recruits. Their job will be easier if the team starts playing better. I'd take my chances of that happening with Hoke out of the picture.
The head coach's job is to be the closer. I don't see how he can credibly tell any parent that he's going to be there to care of their son. We don't need a closer right now. We need someone to keep kids from bolting before they see who the new coach is going to be.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
But at that point, they can't guarantee recruits anything. They don't know if they'll be retained. If the head coach is still in place, they can at least try to keep up an illusion of stability.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:30 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
Not a damn thing!!!!
October 25th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
wins are just statistics anyway
October 25th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
Cut his fat ass loose.
Edit: Geezus wtf was that Devin???
October 25th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
A former classmate of mine who is a faculty at UM and used to serve on athletic advisory board told this week that a terrible record may not be enough to lead to removal of Hoke at the end of this year. In other words, regardless of record, Hoke may be around next week. According to him, Hoke has strong support among Faculty and Admin people.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
No one will buy tickets for this crapfest. Next year they will be worse. Hoke is gone.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
He could be around next year.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:31 PM ^
I have several UM clients, including one who works with a former AD employee, and I hear the exact opposite. There are more academics than you might think who care quite a bit about the football program, and they like excellence there, too.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:33 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 7:49 PM ^
He's a likeable guy and he lets them sit in on film sessions.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
What do we really have to lose? We're hoping to get a bowl game, but don't hold your breath.
We'd be lucky to get a high school football coordinator with DB there.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
saved on headsets would be a huge consideration
October 25th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
We would lose the detailed injury reports that are so common in Hoke's pressers.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 8:52 PM ^
the kind involving the cops.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
Fire Brady Now, Nuss Interim
Before you say Nuss hasn't done shit... It has even been talked about how his play designs have been great all game.. He's a great OC. Brady is a good cheerleader.
There is no HC
October 25th, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^
It does not hurt anything, but what does it really help? We don't gain any recruits, who the hell is gonna coach? We don't get any advantages to getting a new fucking coach ( unless harbaugh was fired early by SF AND, a big And he wanted to coach here).
It would feel great as an angry fan, but honestly what do we gain?
That being said, I loved the announcers. I think Spielman called Hoke and his staff out when talking about not developing players. I loved it. Not always a fan of Spielman, but it was nice to see a "non" michigan fan calling the program out. Yes he may enjoy it but usually these guys stick to etiquette about criticising head coaches.
I truly believe the Hoke era will be looked at as worse that the RR era. Hokes first year was all RR guys. Not a huge RR fan either, just saying the taller midget is gonna be RR.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^
Though I disagree with you on RR (He was given what carr left behind, not given his DC, and lost a ton of players, and his recruits turned out to be a 2 loss team after he was fired... revisionist history... maybe.... but I can't hate on him. Handed shit, and should have been given his guy... brady got a way more expensive defensive coordinator..... look how much better the same defense got just by changing that one guy..... look how WORSE the offense got while still only dropping two games... they played terrible in comparison)
That out of the way, 100% agree with the rest... They did a good job at being honest and analytical... and did it on a nationally televised 330pm game... Maybe there will be less derp in the world if people were even still watching at that point.... Well, they've been doing it all game, chipping away. I really like it.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^
by canning Hoke now. It's possible that whoever gets promoted to the interim job might actually do a decent job. There's also the possibility that some have tuned Hoke out and it no longer matters what he does. Sometimes a change only for the sake of change is warranted.
October 25th, 2014 at 7:07 PM ^
It's possible that whoever gets promoted to the interim job might actually do a decent job.No - we do not want this. We do not want a guy who would never be considered otherwise get the job because of 5-6 games.
October 25th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^
If anything, it should make the job a little more attractive. I'm only in favor of appointing an interim who would not be considered for the job next year, like Jackson or Hechlinski. Nussmeier has more than enough to do as it is.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
Umm, maybe because he has the best practices EVER!
October 25th, 2014 at 6:28 PM ^
Umm, maybe because he has the best practices EVER!
October 25th, 2014 at 6:28 PM ^
team doesn't make a bowl game
3-5 with IU, NW, MD, and OSU left. Would have to win 3 of those
October 25th, 2014 at 8:59 PM ^
No way does Hoke get smoked by MSU 35-11 in the midst of a struggle to get to a bowl and keep his job.
Now the IU, @NW, and MD stretch isn't exactly murderer's row. I'm guessing we go 2-1, but 3-0 isn't out of the question. THen we get smoked by OSU.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:29 PM ^
You know that's Minnesota in your avatar, right?
October 25th, 2014 at 6:35 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:30 PM ^
He needs to go now. His influence is making the players, the program, everything worse. Nice many I guess, however, that doesn't win games or pay the bills. He needs to go now.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:30 PM ^
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October 25th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
During the highlight from the Arizona game, the announcer cracked a joke that if Michigan is looking for a coach after the season they should think about the Arizona coach given that his team is 5-1 and ranked 15th. Brutal.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:33 PM ^
Again . . .MSU hits one of our guys in the head and talks shit and what do we do? Nothing. No pushing, shoving, barking . . . nothing. There is no way that Hoke did not lose this team alooong time ago. Pathetic.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:33 PM ^
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:18 PM ^
Maybe it's a family thing... Tommy Bowden resigned mid-season at Clemson.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:33 PM ^
October 25th, 2014 at 7:38 PM ^
next year.
He's getting a new coach. That might be the best thing for him. A coach coming in with no history with either Shane or Wilton. An unbiased competition.
October 25th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^
We'll give Hoke the Earl Bruce treatment... Maybe we'll beat OSU instead of them beating us.