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11/26/2018 - 7:50pm Agree. Good post for…

Agree. Good post for thoughts. We can all argue here and there with your post, but overall I think it is correct.

I am friends and coworkers with a lot of SEC guys. Ole miss, GA, Al, LSU etc..  Inlcluding some very big alums.  They all know the payola happens but do not think it is a big deal.  I disagree. While the geography and grades issue we can't really change the money cannon is something M and a few others would love to use.

My thought is why don't Michigan, ND. NW, Stanford and whoever else just band together and say publicly "we are paying our football and basketball recruits" $25,000 - $ 100,000 each plus a scholarship".  The NCAA sanctions them and they go to court. You know the NCAA does not want to go to court.  I am no lawyer and I know this could take years but honestly the current system is a joke. Ole miss blatantly cheated and got 3 years probation? 

I know other schools may not be able to afford as much, but too bad.  

This will not immediately make M "elite" but who does not believe M, ND, Stanford, NW and a few others would not benefit?

10/21/2018 - 12:20pm I actually hope a night game…

I actually hope a night game. Give them a maize out and beat the crap out of them. Also, has there been any more news on Webber being an honorary captain? I remember when Harbaugh called into the radio.  PSU would be perfect.

10/17/2018 - 6:59pm Sorry if I missed this in…

Sorry if I missed this in earlier post, but where the hell is Furbush?


09/06/2018 - 6:15pm What happened to donovan…

What happened to donovan jeter?

08/31/2018 - 12:13pm I will be there.  Sitting in…

I will be there.  Sitting in my domer buddies seat which will make it extra sweet!  Go Blue


07/12/2018 - 2:27pm Not an eppler grad, moved…

Not an eppler grad, moved from Sturgis freshman year ( still orange and black!).  yes fuck Ike and Stevenson.  Ford who cares.

07/12/2018 - 2:04pm But I believe he is a Utica…

But I believe he is a Utica High Alum!!! So there is that. Go Chiefs!!


05/22/2018 - 4:44pm sorry

I meant to upvote you and i hit wrong button. I then upvoted you. I live in Chicago too and totally agree!!

05/21/2018 - 4:55pm Amazing

Both my sons go to Depaul, they need it.  Should be a great basketball school with a nice facility too damn far away.  Must have got the checkbook out after Loyola did so well this year.  

02/04/2018 - 6:27pm sorry WD

Chieftain here too. Much older, but it was Utica Eisenhower and Utica Ford for me.  I never heard of Shelby Eisenhower.  Utica Community Schools.  I agree they are not in Utica, but they are in the second largest school district in the State. Utica. We did say Sterling heights Stevenson. NOt sure why, just the way I grew up.

01/02/2018 - 2:37pm No it does not mean he can't better

But if he gets better he will still be average.  Don't mean to hurt his feelings or yours, but he has a long way to go and a helluva lot of competition.


01/02/2018 - 2:32pm Yeah, sorry

I actually changed it to add the ND part, that would have been even worse. I will update.  Sorry guys/ladies.

The whole post, was somewhat tongue in cheek.  But for some people the winningest program does mean something, the whole history of M football has value.  It does not help in current conversations with MSU and OSU fans, but hopefully that tide starts to change.

I am with Brian and even Magnus on my overall feeling about this season.  Yes it sucked. Especially after the MSU game where my family had to leave the house because of my swearing and throwing things and my dog was huddled in her cage because of the general noise.

I am not always a glass half full guy.  But i still believe Harbaugh will get it done.  He just has suck a good track record and he should have his first real (where he has two GOOD options) QB competition.

As bad as yesterday was it still does not compare to the despair and hopelessness of RR and Hoke era. It just does not.

Now if we are 8 - 5 next year and lose to ND, OSU and MSU??? I don't think harbaugh is going to get fired, but the conversation will not be absurd ( it is right now)

01/02/2018 - 12:28pm I noticed too.

I agree 100%.  Based on what we saw yesterday Peters had his audition and failed (UMbig11 said it first).

Thank god Shea transferred or it would only be McCaffrey.  Competition is good and I think next year is the first year we have two "good" qb to actually compete.  

Peters may be a solid Qb with time, but man he had the jitters early on some throws and it seemed in the second half he had time and just did not have much.  

More bad news. My Domer buddies texted that crap out of me yesterday with "sympathy".  Not sure on the math but it seems legit, yesterday's loss by M and ND's win gave ND the all time winningest % in CFB.  Now we can take it back next year in South Bend. Which BTW I already promised my stupid fucking domer friends we would!!!!

Please don't let me down.

01/02/2018 - 12:28pm I noticed too.

I agree 100%.  Based on what we saw yesterday Peters had his audition and failed (UMbig11 said it first).

Thank god Shea transferred or it would only be McCaffrey.  Competition is good and I think next year is the first year we have two "good" qb to actually compete.  

Peters may be a solid Qb with time, but man he had the jitters early on some throws and it seemed in the second half he had time and just did not have much.  

More bad news. My Domer buddies texted that crap out of me yesterday with "sympathy".  Not sure on the math but it seems legit, yesterday's loss by M and ND's win gave ND the all time winningest % in CFB.  Now we can take it back next year in South Bend. Which BTW I already promised my stupid fucking domer friends we would!!!!

Please don't let me down.

01/01/2018 - 4:20pm amen brother!

He is just not good.  Yeah OL hurt him first half but he was not making throws. he is on Harbaugh.  But Dmac and Shea are the hope now.  


10/31/2017 - 10:38am Did not see tweet

Ace, has detailed his health issues before. hope this is just minor.  Be well Ace.



10/08/2017 - 10:08am 2008

This feels like 2008 when Sheridan and Threet were Qb's.  The defense today is so much better, but during the game you just feel like there is no chance to score. 

I was almost happy when M punted thinking the defense had a better chance to move the ball.

I know o'korn is better than Sheridan, but he is just not good.  His second interception he had Evans wide open in the flat, but he can only follow his primary target.

05/22/2017 - 11:34am Yeah pretty much

We are early days in this. But there will have to be some consent to sell/use  the data. Possibly a slightly lower Interest rate or payment.  I am not an attorney, just a finance guy so people on the board may know more.

Look at the mobileye acquisition by Intel. We have that product on our truck.  Intel paid a ton

Nobody knows where this is going, but everybody wants to control the data.

Israel has a bunch going on in this sector with a bunch of different companies. 

05/22/2017 - 11:14am Great point

Plus we are trying to think about ways to monetize data. Insurance companies could use real time info to bill, pay as you drive leases, etc.  

05/22/2017 - 9:54am Agreed

It will happen in the next few years but will not be mainstream for awhile (IMO). Infrastructure is huge. You need constant connectivity.  Plus people, especially old ones like me, like to drive.  It will happen eventually because it makes too much sense.

One example of significant change is insurance.  Who is insured you or the car?  How can you be at fault with no driver?  I know that can be overcome, but there are so many issues.

I am on a project for a new all electric small truck and it is fascinating.  The telematics involved can be pretty cool. But as a truck/car manufacturer you make a whole lot of money from parts and service.  All electric has no transmission, no EPA crap, and a whole lot less moving parts. A lot of lost revenue.

Ford never got the benefit of bankruptcy in 08/09. THey made a short term brilliant move in selling their image, had the money to ride it out. Their legacy costs have got to be huge.

Surprised at Hackett's age he would do this.

02/17/2017 - 4:16pm Thank you!

Just remember being near van dyke!

02/17/2017 - 2:50pm So Sad

We played against him when he coached the JV team at Madison Lamphere (?).  Was great to look across and see him on sidelines.  No idea how we did that game though.

01/26/2017 - 1:23pm Did you bother to read where I said twice, it may not work?

The league is a long shot. But it is the beginning of a concept that will attack the ncaa and its hypocrisy. The point of this thread.

The will attack the money factor and the lack of actually going to school for a lot of D1 athletes. My point with jabrill was not necessarily he did not want to go to school. But many kids have to balance that with families that are in need of hard cash today.

01/26/2017 - 10:45am They had better wake up…


Not sure that link is working but it details a new leauge that Tom Brady's agent is setting up in CA for players who don't want to go to college prior to the NFL.

I am not saying this league will work but the concept makes a lot of sense. If you are Jabrill Peppers or Malik Mcdowell and you know you are not staying more than 3 years in college why not go make some money for your family while you learn your trade?

Once again this league has a big hill to climb but they are on the right path to destroying the only sport I truly care about anymore (college football).

01/21/2017 - 7:58pm Was responding to # 9.

Just a contrarian view.  

01/21/2017 - 6:55pm or may be not

You can equate the global warming hysteria to Prohibition.  Deeply sincere people thought they were benefitting our country and ended up helping organized crime.  Huge opportunity for corruption

12/18/2016 - 3:52pm Ike sucks

Go Chiefs!! The original Utica high school!!!

12/09/2016 - 4:55pm Christ, who was taking the picture???

WD or Desmond Howard?  D'antonio looks like an ass.

12/05/2016 - 5:43pm Great write up Ace.

Really informative, as always.

In addition, I wanted to comment last week regarding Wagner, but I was so pissed off about the loss and the comments were getting out of hand I did not.  However, JACKFL33 summed up what I wanted to say, much better and more concretely that I could have.

My thoughts are that Beilein knows Wagner gives M a far superior chance to win than Donnal. But he is trying to send a message that effort and "want to" matter.  I don't think he is willing to sacrafice games on purpose, but if that is what happens at this point of the season he will live with it.

Wagner can be special. If he becomes at least consistently average out there defensively then he is in the picture for some post season accolades this year or next. I have not studied all the bigs in the conference, but offensively he has got to be in the top 2 or 3?

Plus with him and Robinson out there at the same time that is two guys who coaches are going to go after hard.  

Still don't know what to think of this team, it seems every year before conference play they have 2 or 3 games where I think they don't deserve to be in the tourney (except for that one magical year!). I don't know if we can consistently overcome nobdoy being able to attack with the dribble (MAAR can sometimes, but he is undersized)


12/02/2016 - 10:59pm at least we agree on that

So your an Eppler boy. I moved to town Freshman year. Born in Sturgis which is orange and black.  Go Orange.

At least we both hate Ike.

12/02/2016 - 8:08pm Sorry buddy Broncos rule

BG sucks.  kind of like Eisenhower. Go Chiefs

11/27/2016 - 9:07pm It feels like this should be a long shot

But....  Did anybody see the tv ratings from yesterday?  Harbaugh, Meyer and Saban plus who the hell cares.  Ratings gold = cash.

IF OSU play M again probably highest rate game all time or close.

Yes I am biased, but it is crazy to deny money will be a factor. Plus we beat, PSU, Colorado and WI in head to head.

09/18/2016 - 3:31pm Kalis

I did not watch him throughout game and curious how UFR will come out.  But I can tell you there was one play in second half I believe where he runs cleanly through the hole and has one LB to hit.  He literally falls over on his face and the LB crunches Deveon.  If he does not fall over it is a long run DeVeon, a really long run.  

I re-ran to see if his feet got tangled up, but did not see it. Just think he was moving to fast.

Once again, not sure how he will grade out, but man it is a weird play. I am sure Brian will mention it.

08/25/2016 - 3:05pm Excellent post


Thanks for bringing this up and thanks for you thoughtful responses in the comments.

I too am in Chicago, my oldest is a sophomore at DePaul.  He leans left as most do in college but the Milo thing really bothered him. Not because he agrees with Milo, he just wanted to hear what he had to say. Milo is over the top and was primarily looking for PR, but his perspective is important, only because it is unique.

I clicked on this post to see how many comments it took for it to blow up. I was shocked how civil it was(is).  I think that in large part the quality of the responses and # of responses is due to the way you framed your post and your responses.

Great job


05/27/2016 - 10:43am Trucking needs it bad

I work for a large truck and auto manufacturer.  I can tell you the number one problem trucking companies have is getting good drivers.

Can't blame the drivers, especially the Long haul guys/gals. It is a tough job. Never home, idiots cutiting you off, cops looking to ticket you, etc...

There is a huge financial incentive for trucking companies to do this.  Not sure how long it will take, but we have taken a class 8 truck across the US with no driver ( I beleive there was one in the cab, but don't recall).

It also scares the hell out of some car companies because who wants to pay a premium if you are not driving?

Finally, the insurance is going to be interesting. I believe today insurance covers the driver.  Going forward it will have to cover the car?

Good times.

05/03/2016 - 3:40pm Agreed that was the "faith" part of my post

But Chatman was never going to play big minutes ever.  He was a body.  Games was way to fast for him.  

I think Beilein has something up his sleeve for this year. But even if he does not it opens up a scholarship for next year and that is good. 

05/03/2016 - 3:30pm I think Beilein is cleaning house

He still has very high standards, but I do think he is starting to recognize the need to turnover this roster.  His last two classes have been very subpar ( except for Wagner hopefully and I don't count Robinson)

He could not be stuck with this roster for two more years.  

I have been skeptical of Beilein, but I think in the end he will adjust and make this program much stronger. I have nothing to base that on but faith, but I think these transfers are net positive.  Chatman and Dawkins were veterans, but middle of the road big ten players at best.

05/03/2016 - 3:25pm Totally disagree

As a fan only, this is a good thing.  He was a below average player in the Big Ten with two years experience, maybe the light would go on, but it always appeared the game was too fast for him.

He seems like a great kid and wish him well.  But this helps the program.

04/07/2016 - 12:34pm Warde Manuel

Curious how much input he will have. I would guess a lot.  He did pretty well at Uconn so he has a clue about how to win in basketball.

Not saying he takes over for Beilein but he make help "evaluate" assistants a little more.

I like his apparent  views on the fab five. Not condoing what they did, but not ignoring that no matter what they will always be associated with Michigan.

04/06/2016 - 9:16pm IMO "he is what he is"

I have seen two years of him. He has not improved.  He has very little lateral quickness, he can't elevate very well and he is sized like a 3.  None of those "issues" can be developed.

Most 3's are your best athlete and can beat their man off the dribble. He is a poor 3 point shooter ( on a % basis) and has no mid range game. So he really can't play the three  He is not strong enough to play 4 and start. I know Beilein does not run a traditional offense.  But Chatman can neither create his own shot or draw the defense to the 3 point line.

IMO, he is not and will never be a quality starting 3 or 4 in the big ten.  Even if he makes a leap like Donnal did this year, that means he becomes a quality 10 - 15 minute  guy off the bench.

Beilein can do better.


04/06/2016 - 2:54pm I may be in a minority but..

I am actually happy with the tweets and the Dawkins transfer.  This team had a very limited ceiling as it is currently constructed.  

I hope for one more transfer.  That frees up this year and next year.

We need more talent. Period.  

Coach B. with elite talent is unbeatable.  Remember Hardaway's quote during the NCAA run?

"You give coach Beilein time to prepare and game plan and you are going to lose" (this is not exact, but you ge the gist)

M has to recruit more aggresively and adjust to elite players.  

2013 does not have to be a rarity.  

04/06/2016 - 2:48pm I think the was the posters point

We all want to be squeaky clean, but it is exceedingly hard.  I for one, aspire to be better than Northwestern on a regular basis.  Some people are happy with that as long as we get really good guys on the team who stay 4 years.

04/06/2016 - 2:07pm Yeah I agree

I just don't see a high ceiling with Chatman.  Looks like a great kid, but he is what he is.  I know Coach B has had a few misses recently, but I like his talent evaluation. I would like to see the scholarship freed up.

04/06/2016 - 12:05pm We were not a good team this year

The difference is I would like the team to be really good, not just a little better than NW.  

Aim high my friend.

04/06/2016 - 11:37am Please god no.

Even if Kam does develop it will be into a role player.   He will always have IU, but Kam is not the answer.

03/29/2016 - 3:27pm Only if your nice and everybody gets a trophy

Nobody like to see posters say negative things about these kids on  a pesonal level.  But jeezus, can't we critique their ability to play elite basketball?

Ricky will be fine in life and is more skilled at basketball than 99% of posters here ( I am assuming some ex D1 guys are on the board sometimes).  But he was not a good big ten center.  IMO, yes my opinion which carries equal weight to most of you, he was not going to get significantly better and his playing time would go way down.

Shouldn't this board be more outraged at Beilein for apparently "cutting" a kid than posters who critique a division one basketball player?  We don't know for sure what happened, but I bet MAAR or Irvin does not transfer....


03/25/2016 - 3:20pm Cool story Bro

My brother in law's college roommate  married Jennifer Garner's best friend a couple of years ago.  

They let the couple use their Bel Air (?) estate for the wedding.  It was a two day affair that my brother in law attended.

He met Ben/Jen and said they were extremely polite and down to earth (at least over the two days he saw them).  They let people walk around the house, met their kids, etc.

They did ask people not to go around taking pictures and such, but he did get to touch the oscar for Good Will Hunting. It was actually the time Affleck was working out to get in shape for his Batman role.

That being said, the reason I think some people thing Ben can be a douche is how political he appers to be. 

03/14/2016 - 6:11pm Ok

I should have used Duke, given current ncaa situation. By I have a college freshman and  a HS junior and NC is a tough school academically.  But yeah they kinda cheat.

Assume I said he has a Duke offer......

03/14/2016 - 3:23pm What?

Somebody has to know the story on Jackson.  NC offered him so his grades can't be that bad?  

I know there are no scholarships, but humor me.  Why did he not consider M, or was it the other way around?

03/11/2016 - 2:45pm Forget basketball for a second

I am so happy for Kam Chatman and the way the team reacted. You can tell they love the guy.

Truly awesome. I have been so critical of Chatman, but he is just a kid and he will never forget this moment. Ever.  

Love the people on the team.