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08/05/2018 - 4:12pm The scary orange man is…

The scary orange man is finally gone? I can get out of bed again?

11/10/2017 - 1:39pm Once you get the big

Once you get the big paycheck, the only things left to worry about is CTE and other injuries. I dont blame em

11/04/2017 - 5:37pm But who should I be rooting

But who should I be rooting for based on our nonzero statistical chance of getting to big ten championship games ? Are we still at 0.006%?

10/29/2017 - 12:44am Fighting rich-rods have been

Fighting rich-rods have been on a roll lately.

10/15/2017 - 7:00pm While I am more on the side

While I am more on the side of "WHO CARES, JUST WIN AND IT WONT MATTER," the way the ratings are manipulated really do have a profound effect on the total strength of the conference, which is complete bullshit. 



10/08/2017 - 5:43pm Let's see how things develop

Let's see how things develop in the next week, and hopefully get a game in non-super-adverse conditions, then I'll start making judgements. 


Then again, my expectations for this team was to come out sucking and to develop throughout the season, next year being a possible decent year even with the suepr tough schedule, and 2019 being the year I make my real judgement on harbaugh (FWIW I think we have the right guy, and we're going to have growing pains, and people need to stop raising expectations in the middle of the season vs what they were at the beginning.... then acting like a single loss is the apocolypse) 



10/08/2017 - 5:39pm Yeah, our defense is WAY WAY

Yeah, our defense is WAY WAY WAY elite when you consider how absolutely abhorent our offense has been. Our defense could be ranked #1 and still be underrated, IMO. 


This is why I had no qualms about the way we played that game last week in 90+ degree heat.  We had to keep the defense fresh enough to finish out the game strong. It was sound strategy, and I didn't see many of our guys suddenly cramping up... All we had to do in that weather was play a game of attrition... it worked.


5-0 turnover ratio and we lose by 4-points.  That's very F'n impressive from the defense. 





10/08/2017 - 5:32pm We aren't out of the running.

We aren't out of the running. Simmer. 


Does throwing kids into a complex system have growing pains? Yes


What does harbaugh want to be able to promise recruits? The best shot at getting to the NFL, and the best backup plan (having a Michigan degree) 


The learning curve is higher, it will take some time for this young team to develop, harbaugh has always recruited differently at o-line and fundamentally trains them differently to not just be "huge" but to NOT GET INJURED.  


The learning curve is there, and it sucks to go through the pain,  but in the long term, this team will be better, the players will be more highly coveted by NFL, and we just have to have some faith in that development or sit around bitching about how we suck. 

It's still early in the season, we have a lot of highly ranked teams coming up to play, and we still have all the chances in the world to prove our team is worthy as any other.  One loss, get over it, keep developing, move on. 



10/08/2017 - 5:19pm there was someone behind him

there was someone behind him hard to see when he flopped backwards. Can't make out either way, but it's hard to get that whip motion up high and have your feet fly out forwards on your own. 


MSU plays us dirty every year, nothing new. Little brothers try to get their cheap shots in whenever they can. 


We didn't lose to dirty play, we lost because 5 turnovers vs 0 turnovers plus not catching balls. 




10/08/2017 - 5:14pm I'm at the point where I was

I'm at the point where I was like "well, yep, we lost... on to the rest of the season" as soon as the arm-punt didn't work. 

I've never seen a 5-0 turnover ratio game where a team lost by less points than the number of turnovers. Offensive line will develop more as season goes on, but we're really going to need a lot out of them... and going into this game, I knew it was little brother's super bowl, and we were a second half team that was going to have to play catch-up in very adverse weather. I just accepted it and moved onto shooting a few rounds of pool. Slept well, still have faith in the system, we know what needs work, and we have an undeniably elite defense. 



The offense needed a wakeup call. Defense has been carrying too much of a load this season as-is, and we've been coming away with nothing but W's. That was my takeaway, we can lose this game and be redeemed.  We can't lose to ohio state at home and get anywhere. Better to get the loss right now. 






10/08/2017 - 5:06pm We have time to develop. I'm

We have time to develop. I'm assuming most of our remaining games won't be in adverse conditions (90+ and high humidity or Tropical stormish rain events) 


Sparty wanted it more, their defense grabbed passes better than our offense did. 


We are still capable of beating top 10 teams if our offense starts clicking at all. Our defense is championship caliber.  If our offense just hits a few plays here and there and doesn't have  a 5-0 turnover ratio, we're doing pretty good.... If our top receivers can catch balls put directly between the numbers, we're doing really good. 


This isn't a death-blow, it's still early, we lost to a shit team.  I think Oklahoma deserved to lose a lot more spots than we did.  Their defense giving up 5 straight scores to lose the game vs a guy who doesn't even play QB makes them look in way worse shape than we are in, IMO.  


Eliminating all the shit that could be attributed to adverse weather, I really think we just need to concentrate on the o-line and converting red zone visits into touchdowns instead of field goals,  and we'll be fine.  At the least, way better than most on here expected us to be before the season started. Our expectations always grow too much once we start out well, fully knowing we have glaring holes that need attention and we're still rebuilding with a team that had massive NFL attriction last year. 


10/08/2017 - 4:53pm tl;dr  -- Turnovers, lot of

tl;dr  -- Turnovers, lot of outliers from many angles, our expectations pre-season vs what they develop into is getting kind of silly .. we have been outperforming expectations every year harbaugh has been here, this is always dantonio's super bowl, our defense is still a brick shithouse that could win a championship if the offense was at 50% of where the defense is, still hope in the offensive development, this season isn't over yet -- but we have a lot to hedge up. Also, don't discount the external variables in games like this, just like you shouldn't discount how we played last week in 90+ weather with high humidity.  We played that game almost perfectly to keep players fresh and not have a tired defense at the end. 


Long form chaotic rambling: 


We had no expectations of doing shit this season. We didn't last season, but harbaugh has spoiled us every year by making rebuilding years 1-game away from being "possibly playing for a national championship year" 


5 turnovers, lose by 4 points... other team doesn't move the ball  from 8:XX in the 2nd quarter through 00:00 in the 4th quarter. 


We have a weird team, one that is OBVIOUSLY having growing pains. Harbaugh's O-lines have always been ones that need to be developed in a certain way. This is well documented, and why he has had the lowest rates of o-line injuries throughout his coaching career. 

Those guys are still being developed, but it's a glaring hole in having a winnning team right now. Hopefully they'll be better by the end of the season. 



We've had some real outlier games this year. Last week we were playing in subtropical conditions, this week we ended up with what was equivalent to getting hit by a tropical storm, and it turns out their guys just wanted it more on defense when o'korn can manage 3 INT in a row but mcdoom can get planted perfectly between the numbers and just drop it with both hands on the ball.   He wasn't turning around before getting his hands on the ball, he wasn't trying to make a play before he made the catch, he just straight up didn't hold onto a perfectly thrown ball. 

Our defense gave us two shots to get down the field in the final two minutes. They came out  in the 2nd half and pinned sparty back to the goal line/almost safety on the opening kickoff with a very quick 3 and out.   


There's a lot to look at here.  I'm still waiting for Peoples-Jones to stop acting like he's Jabrill II when he's really underperforming but still grandstanding. I like his enthusiasm, but the production isn't there yet to justify acting like he's even close to being  ready for the NFL. 


IDK what to say about three picks in a row, or how i knew as soon as the broken play happened where sparty fumbled, that they'd surely turn the chaos into a conversion. Our defense was still pretty fucking amazing without even gettting a single turnover.   I fully expected something like that slipstream from dantonio. This is his super bowl.  His team sucks this year, they put it all on the line vs michigan and should have still lost, but our offense is a mess of growing pains. 


There was the second fumble... can't recall who dropped the ball, but that was also kind of an outlier. reaching for a 1st down and having someone come in from sideline side and knock the ball out.  bad awareness... but obviously wasn't expecting  to take a big hit on his right side. (ball in right hand, going down already) 


The other outlier play that really hurt us was the "roll over 2-3 guys who are laying on ground to get the 1st down"  That gave me a sad. 



Addendum:  I think the harbaugh "enthusiasm" has been explained in this thread in regards to how we got fucked at ohio state last year. 

10/07/2017 - 3:09pm The wind is what i'm

The wind is what i'm concerned about, especially with our reliance on field goals this year. 


We will destroy them. 

09/25/2017 - 2:04pm I've had so many 2-week

I've had so many 2-week relationships with this girl. 


09/09/2017 - 9:01pm Well, he was a 4-star recruit

Well, he was a 4-star recruit and a 0.9674 composite on 247, regardless of his play at michigan. 

A team playing with a left handed QB has to commit to the left-hander, because of variables and ball spin and things and stuff. He's always been a good QB, just probably not a good thing to have your recievers possibly have to adjust back and forth between a left and right handed QB


Good for Shane. Good pickup for CMU.    

06/17/2017 - 4:36am…


Take it at face value, a story....because it's pretty long. How much is truth is something I wouldn't have a clue about. All the smoke and mirrors with the phones sounds a little over the top, but who knows. Like minded people tend to find a way to find each other. 





05/07/2017 - 3:15pm Gardner would be my obvious

Gardner would be my obvious choice


Just having harbaugh come in where richrod left off would have been amazing. Denard and Devin both still there, and not beaten into the ground.   Team was on an actual upswing, even though it was still in a pretty shit position.   


With Hoke's first year, imagine if Harbaugh came in back then, rather than after hoke left it in complete shambles.. both of those guys would probably be in way different positions than they are today. We wouldn't have seen our QB's getting slaughtered and neglected, that's for sure. 

02/17/2017 - 3:59am I fucking love coach

I fucking love coach Harbaugh. The greatest mind in college football 

01/10/2017 - 12:32am It's nice to think about the

It's nice to think about the Bama Bagmen taking a big loss tonight, if nothing else. 


01/10/2017 - 12:30am "if"  
Bama gets




Bama gets an attempt to get to the endzone no matter what play you run.  high risk, probably. it worked. 

01/10/2017 - 12:27am THe best part about this

THe best part about this absurd review process is watching Saban have to stand there for an extra ten minutes knowing he just lost. 


01/09/2017 - 8:55pm Addendum: for those who

Addendum: for those who wonder how we could still watch the game while saying we wouldn't want our own children playing ...I remember as a child, I was watching VHS tapes that were made for the simple purporse of glorifying "The biggest hits in NFL history."   Esentially, 90 minutes of bodies smashing into each other in the worst possible ways was a hot seller.  


These days, I don't want to see the kinds of hits that were in those videos. Now that I have learned the long-term effects, big blind-sided impacts are far more troubling than entertaining. 

01/09/2017 - 8:50pm Pretty sure all of my

Pretty sure all of my sentiments about the future of football, and the struggle to compartmentalize my love for the game while also knowing I probably wouldn't let my own child play the sport unless science comes through with a "fix" for CTE-type issues...


Also, I think I appreciate football more right now than ever, because I am in agreement with a lot of people on here, this may well be the last generation of the game we love, but at the same time are starting to accept that it won't be around in a few decades if something drastic does not happen that does not involve drastically changing the game itself. 


01/07/2017 - 4:10am Actually, I'd tend to believe

Actually, I'd tend to believe whatever forum banter about him that is going on from both school's major fan-fourms are something that's making it into his ears or eyes one way or another. 



I'm starting to think we have less of a chance just because michigan fans have folded up even the thought of having any hope like a bunch of defeated whine-asses that just had back to back  seasons with 10 and 11 wins. We were separated from the playoff by one game.   Nobody knows how we would have fared vs those other teams.  Different variables. I bet we would have done better than OSU vs Clemson, much like vs Penn St.



Act like winners... jesus christ. One game out of a playoff that only 4 out of 128 programs get into. 


We made amazing halftime adjustments in our final game, the absence of jabrill was very apparent on special teams and on defense against the player we needed him the most for. That is the only reason this wasn't another 11 win season.... and missing the playoff came down to literallly  most terribly officiated games I've ever seen in "the game." 



We're going to find at least 1 or 2 stud qbs by the time we play florida to open 2017

Our reciever corps will either be excellent or absolutely elite. 

Najee would add to our developing stable, and bring our running game instantly into the elite status. 


I really HOPE we land him, I hope he sees how much a degree from michigan is worth rather than buying into  the short term bagman bs.  Harbaugh has a record of developing NFL players that are terrible under other coaches into superbowl talent.  He played his own brother in the superbowl.  I hope Najee sees that Harbaugh is the coach that cares about making him into an NFL talent more than he cares about just adding to a resume for his own statue.....


Not going to be mad either way, though it would really suck to think the whole thing might have just been some fucked up ploy by saban or some of the more nefarious SEC people to distract michigan from recruiting because of butthut related to harbaugh/sat camps...  I really am starting to think he either just doesn't want to deal with bama fanbase if he were to decommit and have to deal with their people and the obviously batshit crazy bama-fan backlash there would be... Who would want to deal with it? I'd do the same thing if I was going to jump shark on that whole thing.



CHOOSE THE GOOD GUYS!  Make our offensive skill position unit  elite as hell with harbaugh at the helm..a guy that can not just prepare you for playing in the nfl, but prepare you for WINNING in the NFL. (also, Michigan degree.)













01/05/2017 - 9:19pm In light of all of this stuff

In light of all of this stuff happening in the past few days..



Why has Najee's "crystal ball" icreased multiple times in the past 48 hours? (per 247) 

Michigan has now went all the way up to 70%, while bama is sitting at 10%. (of course, our presidential election stat crunchers were even further off from what this would be if he does end up in Tuscaloosa... but.. but.. that was a 2016 thing, right!?!? 


Is this a case of trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls? 


If he lands in bama, was it all a ploy by saban to try to get Harbaugh off-track in the bigger picture trying to land #1 recruit two years in a row ? Determined to get some of the most elite skilled players, and getting played by one pretending to be interested while never really wavering?  Could this be Saban's butt-hurt "counter" to sattelite camps? 


What's ith this other kid? (Also a RB)  I can't even find any real good info on him... but a RB that was just offered by Bama? (after the UA bowl?)



Im going to go ahead and stop thinking about this.  Not gonna get caught up in all the drama.  It seems like there are still plenty of people confident that Najee is coming up north, and everything about him is just speculation to drive ratings.


Member when Harbaugh was still "going to another NFL team" a week after we all got in our ~20:1 bets because of "the knowledge" 


Maybe what we need is a najee "it'shappening" gif. 


Stop acting defeated. 


Ok, I have to get off of this topic, because it's starting to make me feel like a man-child.


01/03/2017 - 6:45am This dude is really butthurt

This dude is really butthurt about his MgoPoints. 



01/02/2017 - 3:25am This has probably already

This has probably already been said, but I will just go ahead and not check because  I cannot believe this is something getting so much debate. 



We're going likely be top 3 or 4. 


It's going to take a SERIES of seasons of ass kickings to get us  to #2 or #1.


We are out-recruiting 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff, and one of the teams that is above us just lost to one of the ones down below us. 


Think about that differential.   I understand there have been a few frustrating losses..  Iowa sucked, OSU game was a fucking shit sandwitch from many perspectives, and the bowl game was a fairytale Peppers-less ending that was snatched away, and we had to watch one of our favorite/most deserving players suffer a terrible injury. 


But also think about the fact that we just had those terrible series of events happen and STILL are doing better than almost every single other team in the FBS, and that we just had consequtive seasons with 10 or more wins... that easily could have been a few more. 

We just went from a decade of shit to being considered playoff contenders. We're still missing some pieces, but things are looking better all the time in the big scheme of things. 








12/19/2016 - 12:27am I get it, WD is a weirdo, but

I get it, WD is a weirdo, but I've accepted it, and don't care if someone is a weirdo because most of ya'll have some closted weirdo shit going on anytways.  Can we move past that part? He does the crap I don't want to do. 



12/19/2016 - 12:21am They sell pot.  Who

They sell pot.  Who cares? 



12/15/2016 - 9:19pm Oh man, this one could sway

Oh man, this one could sway some other top recruits that might still be  slightly on the fence. 




Harbaugh AND the  weight of a  Michigan degree are paying off..   I  was talking about this earlier with someone, and ESPN actually hit on it for a seocnd after they came back from break... Kids coming in to play football really are trying to give themselves the best opportunity if they don't make the NFL ..... but they end up being NFL level talent because of their analytical mindsets.   










12/12/2016 - 3:57pm Top trending story on my

Top trending story on my facebook page is "jim harbaugh"  --  article reads "jim harbaugh to the rams? it's a very real possibility."




Same dickheads that said he wouldn't ever leave the NFL.. They're the same people who helped me make a few thousand dollars on sports betting sites when harbaugh came to michigan.  (I RARELY bet on sports related things, but maxed that bet out when we had ~18:1) 


I just hope it isn't going to influence recruiting. 


12/03/2016 - 9:35pm  
Nothing has went right



Nothing has went right since the election. 


No more elections. 




12/03/2016 - 7:20pm At least we'll get to watch

At least we'll get to watch buckeye snowflakes get squashed by bama. 



12/01/2016 - 11:25pm Harbaugh came into a

Harbaugh came into a different situation than urban did.   Last year we would have romped Utah if they weren't the first game... this year, well,  I think there should be one less L for harbaugh and one more for urbs, but it's a useless conversation to get into. 



Ohio state is one hard hit on barrett away from being not even in the top 10. 


11/27/2016 - 4:57pm Can we file a FOIA

Can we file a FOIA request? 




11/27/2016 - 3:54pm Yes, to clear things up --

Yes, to clear things up -- THIS IS THE MOST FORWARD HE GOT THE BALL -- PERIOD. 


11/27/2016 - 3:52pm 15 yd line is the stick,

15 yd line is the stick, since you start on the 25... no need to measure it -- it either got to the 15 or it didn't. 



11/27/2016 - 3:45pm ATTN: Playoff

ATTN: Playoff Committee 




11/27/2016 - 3:43pm They are also skewing the

They are also skewing the original image in most of the pics they are using.. you will notice in the versions that still have hash marks that they do not line up. 

11/27/2016 - 3:39pm 88 went a little beyond

88 went a little beyond "holding" 



11/27/2016 - 3:25pm Well, you have to actually

Well, you have to actually review it  to catch it. 



11/27/2016 - 3:21pm Seems it would be hard to

Seems it would be hard to teleport through your own teamate's ass 

11/27/2016 - 1:36pm I think it's crazy we're

I think it's crazy we're ranked BELOW wisky, but to say there's some large disparity between OSU/MICH > WIsconson is silly. We both beat them by a single TD. 



11/22/2016 - 10:55pm I really thought Gardner's

I really thought Gardner's peak was playing the second half vs OSU that year on a broken foot. Yes, a one point loss -- but Gardner was the only reason it was that close... and I still can't get it out of my head that he should have taken that ball into the endzone himself. That last play call was utterly stupid.   They couldn't stop him  from running and borges (or hoke) decides to stop doing what's working on the play that decides the entire game. 


I wish he would have gotten to play under Harbaugh instead of having his body destroyed via hoke's terrible coaching. 


11/22/2016 - 10:50pm So sick of hearing all the

So sick of hearing all the whiners



We beat wisconsin by 7, OSU beat them by 7. 


We beat Penn State, they lost to Penn state


We beat sparty at home, OSU only avoided overtime because Dantonio is a fucking jackwad. His team was at home, had the momentum, and was winning the war in the trenches. They even fell for a Dantonio fake. 

Even Hoke managed to keep most of the games close, and lost by ONE POINT  the year gardner played with a broken foot because why not do basically the same thing the seahawks did vs the pats in the superbowl.. You let devin take that ball and he would have moved a mountain to win that fucking game.


Be pragmatic all you want...  Stop with the self-pity shit over a game that hasn't even happened.  Have some faith.  ....and please stop acting like the sky is falling because okorn was lackluster...  There aren't many QB's that would have been anything but lackluster in that weather.   (CITATION: The game played in east lansing on the same day in the same conditions) 



11/22/2016 - 8:39pm I'm just over here chewing on

I'm just over here chewing on xanax.


11/21/2016 - 4:28am I hate this whole playoff

I hate this whole playoff system already.  WIth our wins, and the conference having 4 legit playoff contenders right now.... even with a close loss at OSU we're pretty much toast... and a lot of people are still thinking ohio state could snake in with a close loss.. so we have to win two hard-fought games in a row and they could potentially just lose and get in... or win, not have to play in the championship game because of losing to pedo-state, and get in by losing... while we could go to the championship game, lose to wisconsin and be 1-1 vs them on the season and be shut out of the playoff after knocking off ohio state... who could then still get in.  


Excuse my redundancies, I'm still trying to wrap my head around ESPN spin on this whole thing. 


Other conferences can barely find a single fucking team that is worthy of getting into the playoff, while other ones are cupcaking their way into the thing. 


It's rather annoying to think a 2-loss michigan has 0 probability of getting in over a shittier 2-loss team from another conference... while a 2-loss OSU could possibly get in... or some 2 loss shit team with a weak ass SOS could ursurp us only because it would be a loss at the end of the season. 



I'm assuming we win, though.   Either way, beating wisconsin two times is going to be no small feat for anyone... and it's still bullshit if we go 1-1 with them and aren't the 2-loss playoff team.


8 team playoff, please, for my sanity.   Don't let people in who don't play conference championship games. that's bullshit...  "Have fun playing the best team in the other division of your conference (that you already beat one time) while we take a bye week and take your spot" 

Serenity now. 


win win win 


11/19/2016 - 3:17pm Also, I see people cheering

Also, I see people cheering because "there will be no overtime," but I would really rather these two teams beat the shit out of each otther for 6OT.



11/19/2016 - 3:15pm Dantonio always relies on the

Dantonio always relies on the shitty gamble. 


I can't beleive they got away with the fake punt in the first place... Why go for 2 when your defense is showing up and your offense is starting to manball down teh field? 



jesus christ. 


11/19/2016 - 3:13pm Don't bring back those

Don't bring back those feelings.


Especially after I found out Gardner was playing on a broken foot and single-handedly almost won that game, and Borges set him up to fail.  There was nobody on this planet that would have kept that kid out of the end-zone.