Darian Roseboro On Official Visit At North Carolina State

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Per Steve at 247.

MOD EDIT - Changed the title to something, well, more coherent? I don't know. It's better now, and that's what is important - LSA

NewYorkWolverine

September 26th, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^

On the one hand, I'm worried about losing kids who Hoke brought to A2, but on the other hand, it clearly seems as though this team isn't improving.

Before anyone accuses me of being disloyal, I will always root for Michigan. I am worried about the direction, though. The shame is that our facilities are updated, they've made some inroads into getting some speed players from the south, and they've tried to address some of the areas we've had difficulty with in the past.

At the end of the day, it's not about uniformz, or "Michigan Men" or the various factions that exist among the alums and the fan base, it's about supporting the team and producing a team that wins with integrity and consistency. I think we can all agree on that.

GO BLUE!

TooFratToFail

September 26th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^

A loss this weekend, or to Rutgers, or... horrifically, to both, could be devastating to the recruiting class. Recruits don't want empty promises about Big Ten Titles if those promises can't be backed up.  Plus, there is an alarming lack of progression among the recruits we have recruited.  I don't know if that's a combination of some positions being weak and impacting others (i.e. poor O-Line inhibiting the RBs and QBs from progressing) or merely poor coaching, or a combination of both.

Rabbit21

September 26th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^

Well, it's hard to blame him. I hope he sees the good things happening on defense and sticks with Michigan, but it's hard to cast stones at a kid for looking around.

Arizona Blue

September 26th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^

Wellllllll, lets just ride this out boys. We can't realistically expect our commits to remain deadfast and loyal when the national media is taking shots at our coach daily and the blogosphere is confident that Brady is done.

alum96

September 26th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^

A good coach with a top 25 class is far more important than an average coach with a top 10 class.  We've already tried the latter and it sucks. 

I'd place the chance of no decommits as a bit higher than Hoke winning 9 games this year. Especially when/if he is fired.

Just begin to accept it and this year's class will take a step back; it will be surrounded by a bunch of good classes in 12, 13, and 14 that a top end coach should thrive with.  Thankfully this is a small class so its actually a "good" one to have in a transition; if and when.

 

93Grad

September 26th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^

Maybe this opens things back up for KLS as a DE.  I frankly never understood why they promised Roseboro they would not recruit another DE in this class when we clearly needed both an SDE and a WDE. 

MichiganITtoWINit

September 26th, 2014 at 10:19 AM ^

I am sad that the part of me that loves Michigan football has met the side of me that loves the Detroit Lions. I find myself in a sarcastic realm of impossible possibility.

With that said.. Keep it comming, bad news.

aiglick

September 26th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^

I don't blame him. We've got to take care of our business. Hoke can still do this but he can't lose this game. If we lose this weekend to a team that completed ONE PASS last weekend we are royally screwed.

J.Madrox

September 26th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^

But NC State, really? I know they are one of his home state teams, but if he is deciding not to come to Michigan due to the on-field product I would think he could find a better landing spot than the Wolfpack.

I understand its only their coaches second year so he could be building something, but they went 0 and 8 in ACC play last year. Oh well, recruiting is weird, best of luck to the kid wherever he ends up.

BlueLikeJazz

September 26th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^

If this is true, and if he (and/or others) end up committing elsewhere, this removes the last possible reason not to fire Hoke.

If guys are going to bail anyway, might as well start over with the staff.

maize-blue

September 26th, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^

As a defensive player I think he can probably see that at least our defense is still good and seems to be on the right track.

maize-blue

September 26th, 2014 at 11:33 AM ^

The defense didn't lose those games. The offense scored 0 TDs. Both Utah and ND have decent offenses and holding each to under 300 yards is pretty good. Both defensive performances should have produced winnable games and unless the defense can start holding teams to negative points they should not be looked at as reasons for the losses.

funkywolve

September 26th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^

I'm not sure I'd say the defensive performance against ND should have produced a winnable game.  You can cite all the stats about less then 300 yds of offense by ND but 28 of ND's 31 points came on drives that started in ND territory.  The only drive that started in UM territory set up by a turnover was the FG.  More often then not over the last year and a half the only time the UM offense has put up 30+ points against a decent team is when Gardner puts on his Superman cape and has a great game.

Utah, I kind of agree.  The defense only gave up 19 pts and 3 of those were thanks to a turnover by the UM offense on the UM side of the field. 

MayOhioEatTurds

September 26th, 2014 at 12:37 PM ^

if the defense is good, or if the OL is showing improvement. 

What matters to recruits is complete and utter uncertainty:  Who will be my coach?  Who will be the AD?  Which way will this program be trending when I'm a junior/senior and hoping for an invite to the NFL?

This is the real problem.  Not so much what is or is not happening on the field now, but the fact that recruits don't expect Hoke to be their HC.  And they are correct in that expectation.  Smart recruits don't expect Brandon to be their AD.  I hope they are correct in that expectation. 

Until--at the very least--the football team has a new coach, we are going to be hemoraging recruits.  Every day of delay which allows this uncertainty to drag on hurts the program going forward, because excellent recruits will be lost for the next regime. 

Schissel ought to drop the hammer on Brandon before the Minnesota game, to staunch the bleeding and show the University is serious about the next football coach search.  Alas, based on Schissel's comments, he couldn't care less about the state of Michigan athletics.  For Schissel, the longer this drags on, and the weaker the football program becomes, the better. 

Perverse incentives.

814 East U

September 26th, 2014 at 10:47 AM ^

I am getting to a point where recruiting is down on the list of what I care about. We clearly have't been getting players who have that "it" factor or chip that Larry Foote/Marcus Ray have talked about. 

I just want this team to win. I don't care about 4* 5*. I want guys that want to win and be better than the opponent at all costs. The combine superstars clearly have not been working.

AFWolverine

September 26th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

Are you insinuating we have an effect on the team because we're a bunch of sniveling internet posters? This blog may be a hornet's nest right now, but I'd wager that the Michigan locker room is a bit more calm. Maybe not completely as they're all adults who can tell when things aren't going well, but probably moderately calm. That's just my opinion of the state of our team's state based on nothing but my gut feeling.

Mocha Cub

September 26th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

I blame this team's lack of success on TomVH...ever since he left as ESPN's Michigan recruiting analyst for the BIG analyst position things have never been the same #sadface 

/S

MGoManDown

September 26th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^

I knew it was bad when I was watching the Paul Finebaum show (on the SEC network for crying out loud) and people were calling in from Bama, Mississippi, etc saying "Hey, who get's the Michigan job? Miles or Harbaugh?" 

LSAClassOf2000

September 26th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^

Maize'n'Brew talks a little about this development as well - HERE

Among other points, they do raise an interesting one about how this does put the "no visit" policy in the spotlight yet again, and I would tend to agree that it could get to a point - and this might be one - where the staff finds themselves in a bit of a bind over their policy when compared to on-field results. 

It is rather a sudden development, so this could be interesting definitely.