February 12th, 2019 at 10:01 PM ^
This is new
February 12th, 2019 at 10:05 PM ^
let me guess, beilein said, 'what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks are you looking at?!' when they missed the head shot to Z.
if you tossed beilein, you (the ref) probably need to not be a ref ever again. go back to ymca ball.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:09 PM ^
To me, it looked like he was holding up 3 fingers, referring to PSU’s three fouls. Refs don’t like it when you point out their incompetence.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:16 PM ^
if it was anyone else but beilein, i'd guess he said, 'read between the lines!' as he proudly exhibited those 3 fingers.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
Or their overt bias. They REALLY dont like it when their obvious desire for a particular team to win.
Just ask Harbaugh
February 12th, 2019 at 10:26 PM ^
Like anyone who has some petty power and abuses it... they don't want to be called out on it.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:36 PM ^
That's very insulting to YMCA refs.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:09 PM ^
A double tech is trash. I hope JB really got his money's worth. Especially considering he's halfway across the floor when it was called.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^
What the fuck is going on with that asshole ref.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:14 PM ^
Lewis Garrison has a linked in account. Go tell him how much you loved his officiating tonight.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:32 PM ^
these refs are fucked up.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:39 PM ^
My favorite was the obvious missed double dribble call. That is when I knew these refs had no clue what was going on.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
It is really difficult to watch college sports. The officating sucks. The recruits are bought. What a crap product generally. The NBA and NFL is killing it and the college game is a joke.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^
I don't watch NBA at all and won't speak to the bball aspect, but nothing I've ever seen in the NFL has given me a reason to prefer it over the college game.
February 13th, 2019 at 12:02 PM ^
The Saints would like to have a word with you.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:52 PM ^
Refs in pee wee recreation leagues are all over double dribble...
February 12th, 2019 at 11:36 PM ^
Did you see the NBA clip with the dude taking five steps?
February 12th, 2019 at 11:44 PM ^
Yes. He took 5 steps, but the NBA didn't acknowledge it. Really difficult to get it right in real time -- but with the benefit of replay not so much.
Oh, well, it's just a game and that is the truth. Ilhan Omar dealing with more serious BS.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:42 PM ^
B1G officials are hot garbage.
February 12th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^
For JB to get tossed for the first time since the mid-70’s, I’m going to assume the refs did something wrong....
February 12th, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^
You know you've had a bad night as an official when John Beilein gets that mad at you.
Just an awful night.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
That pretty much sums it up snarling wolverine.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:00 PM ^
basketball is a funny game isnt it?
February 12th, 2019 at 11:06 PM ^
It's gotta be torture for guys who watch it and have a nervous breakdown every time an official calls a foul on their team.
Hundreds of calls in a typical basketball game--no way most of the guys posting on this thread should be watching any of it.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:16 PM ^
50/50 calls are one thing, no need getting upset about those. The beef is the sheer incompetence on obvious stuff. Missing the obvious illegal screen at the end of the half and then throwing the coach out who was walking away, missing Simpson getting fouled multiple times and run over on the steal and then the obvious double dribble missed. Those are calls that should not be missed if the officials aren't complete dogshit, that is 9 points right there on those three calls.
February 13th, 2019 at 12:58 PM ^
It's not just incompetence, it's one sided incompetence.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
Here is what gets me, Beilein doesn't say jackshit to the officials most of the time. He says a couple words in something he was completely right about, turns to walk away and gets a technical, essentially baiting him into the second one. Meanwhile you have guys like Izzo that constantly scream at the officials all game even when they aren't right about the call and don't get hit with jack. Yes Michigan played like shit but that was a five point swing at the end half by missing that call and then baiting two technicals instead of just letting him say his peace and walking away like Beilein did. The double standard displayed by the officials for what coaches can get away is not something that can be justified regardless of what the team played like tonight. It is absurd.
The officials performance tonight was every bit as embarrassing as Michigan's. Missing something as simple as a double dribble and then the possession where Simpson got fouled probably four times at least before the steal, including being run over was honestly worse than anything the first half to boot. And that non call on Simpson was pretty big because the momentum was shifting at that point.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^
If I was Beilein, I would go out of my way to earn a fine from the league. Something like, “I can accept incompetence from B1G, officials, and frankly, I have come to expect it. But can they at least make an effort to protect the players? Someone is going to get hurt because they don’t know how to do their jobs.”
February 12th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
One of the few times you can say this but Beilein didn't have his team ready to play tonight. PSU kicked our butts up and down the court in the first half and a lot of it was just hustling to loose balls and grabbing rebounds. We didn't get out on shooters and pretty much phoned it in on defense in the first 20 minutes. This team has major issues away from Crisler.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:11 PM ^
Two things can be true at the same time. Michigan's performance was bad to say the least and the officials were even worse. Both can be true. And as the previous poster said dude throwing an elbow on a screen is something the officials can't let happen. That is a player safety issue. I mean the officials were so incompetent tonight they didn't even call one of the most obvious double dribbles you will ever see. Essentially the non call when Simpson was fouled on the one steal, the non double dribble call and the exchange at the end of the first half was a 9 point swing. I don't care how bad a team plays that in no way excuses the officials for having that big of an impact by missing obvious stuff
February 12th, 2019 at 11:21 PM ^
Yes, the "double dribble" penalty concept was taught to my high school girls PE class, during the week or two when we played basketball. In the late 1970s.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
Okay, Shawn, whatever.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:27 PM ^
Maybe you can help them with the hustling to loose balls part.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
B1G refs suck in every sport. Nothing new.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:12 PM ^
Coach is pretty calm at his press conference. He says he'll talk to the Big Ten office about the officiating, but won't comment here.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:26 PM ^
God I wish he would've said the following
"I dont want to get fined so im not going to criticize the officials, instead im just going to state a few facts:
1. My team is 22-0 when this crew doesnt officiate the game. 0-3 when they do.
2. I havent been tossed from a game since Jimmy Carter was President. Tonight I was.
3. Three first half fouls is Penn State's lowest first half foul total in three years.
4. If that crew is assaigned to another one of our games i will pull my team off the court and will forfeit. I will leave it up to our commissioner who assaigned the officials to explain why."
February 12th, 2019 at 11:34 PM ^
Basketball officiating isn't done with crews. They're individuals.
Michigan is 1-3 in '18-19 when Lewis Garrison is a referee. (He worked the Norfolk State game). They were 1-0 last year (Alabama A&M), 1-0 in '16-17 (that horrible game @Rutgers), and he didn't work any of their games in '15-16. That's as far back as KenPom's referee charts go. He hasn't worked an NCAA Tournament game in the past three seasons.
They are 3-1 this year when Robert Riley is a referee: the Providence, Binghamton, and Minnesota games. And they are 3-1 this year when Paul Szelc is a referee: Purdue, the first PSU game, and the home game vs. Northwestern.
February 13th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
He can't say any of that stuff, publicly anyway or pull his team, privately he should make his displeasure known to the big ten, and point out calls where he disagreed with the refs. Publicly he can pull a Phil Jackson before the next MSU game, and say, I expect a good game, if we get a fair whistle.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:15 PM ^
Another Butt whupping, sure hurts. Still you have to keep believing
February 12th, 2019 at 11:25 PM ^
Get bent.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:17 PM ^
You can say what you will about this game, and I agree with anyone who says it was more or less shit, but I love the fire in Beilein. He advocates for his players in a way that someone coaches probably wouldn't dare, even in the face of an off night.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^
Agree LSA it's just insane this guy has to beg for calls against a 1-11 team. This conference is just such a fucking joke sometimes.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:22 PM ^
I just really want to hear a valid justification from the people saying don't complain on how Beilein can be totally right, say a couple words, get a technical after he is already walking away and then getting baited into the second, but yet guys like Izzo can scream at the officials all game. Like do the dogshit Big Ten officials even realize how inconsistent that is? Official should have let Beilein say his peace like they allow others do and walked away like Beilein was doing, instead of creating a 3 point swing.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:28 PM ^
Look, we played like ass and didnt deserve to win. PsU seemed to get every 50/50 ball too. Some of it was luck, other was hustle.
But those refs were horrible tonight. How they called Iggy for his 2nd when he didnt even touch a guy, yet they let PSY set illegal screens. They missed an OBVIOUS double dribble. It was a shishow of a game all around
February 12th, 2019 at 11:29 PM ^
Hello 4 seed
February 12th, 2019 at 11:33 PM ^
I know it's likely been said ad nauseam in this thread and the other, but I don't want to read all of them and I just need to be Mad Online for a second; Iggy's second foul, Simpson getting blown up on the screen, and the double dribble were 3 of the worst no calls I have ever seen.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:35 PM ^
Don't forget the steal by PSU when it was 4 point game where Simpson was probably fouled four times and was capped off by getting shouldered/run over for PSU to finally get it.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:43 PM ^
Good call, that was brutal too. There were too many terrible calls to keep track of, but most of them I just accepted as terrible B1G reffing and playing on the road. These 4 were so bad, even by B1G standards.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:33 PM ^
It is just really bizarre to me that it seems like guys like Izzo are almost rewarded for treating the officials like shit and then guys like Beilein who treat them well can get punished more harshly when they do say something. It is really ass backwards.
February 12th, 2019 at 11:38 PM ^
Obviously missed moving screen - 2 points
Double Technical resulting from obviously missed moving screen - 3 points
Obviously missed double dribble - 2 points
Penn State Margin of Victory - 6 points
but but but "you should've played well enough to take them out of the equation"
this was horrendous and refs need more oversight. Hope Warde and Coach B rip the B1G a new one on this.