LA Times - Urban's Legacy "Doesn't Smell Good"

Submitted by xtramelanin on January 2nd, 2019 at 12:35 PM

Mates,

Though you might be interested in this article from the LA Times, sent to me by a PSU alum who lives out there.  It has more than one classic quote about Meyer's past teams, included here:

In his six years at Florida, he oversaw several sketchy teams whose players were arrested for all sorts of alleged crimes, including domestic abuse. In dealing with numerous off-the-field issues there, while protecting players instead of holding them accountable, Meyer twisted the truth so much that he became known as Urban Liar

And about the ohio state investigation, this gem: 

Throughout the university’s investigative process, which focused on Meyer’s refusal to fire Smith even though he knew of the allegations, Meyers lied and whined and essentially played the part of the victim instead of owning up to his mishandling of the situation.

Nice to see we aren't the only ones who see Meyer for what he is: a pretty good football coach, but not so much when it comes to character.  Our maize and blue vision is confirmed.

Link: https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-rose-bowl-plaschke-20190101-story.html

XM

 

UNCWolverine

January 2nd, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^

And yet after their win the sideline reporter and camera man ran to him and stuck a microphone in his face to let him give us all his thoughts and sage words of advice. What a despicable human and shame on the networks for continuing to consume his bullshit. That was disgusting.

xtramelanin

January 2nd, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^

he did not 'win'.  he is a known liar and cheater.  there's an old saying i'm fond of: trust is gained a drop at a time, but lost in buckets.  well, excepting the buckeye kool-aid kids, meyer is just what the article stated: urban liar.  

i would love to have us win it all, but not at the expense of our integrity.   as i've said before, JH is the maniacal ethical twin brother of beilein.  i'm good with that, very good.  

xtramelanin

January 2nd, 2019 at 2:45 PM ^

you are correct about that.  but that behavior, or in your school's case, misbehavior, is important in the scheme of things and whether i'd root for my alma mater.  quite frankly, though i am a college football fan, i couldn't be an ohio fan or a sparty fan, not after the disclosures of the last few years.  kudos on winning, jon, but your school is as dirty as it gets and they can smell it all the way in los angeles.  i don't mean to be harsh and apologies to you if it seems that way.  you got what you wanted in terms of football, but there's a cost to it.  

xtramelanin

January 2nd, 2019 at 3:26 PM ^

refraining from hyperbole here.  your baited question isn't remotely close to a relevant analogy.  

also, what do you have to say about the stained legacy your coach has left at UF and now at ohio?  do you care? was the winning worth it so heck with those pesky considerations like truth and ethics?  also, please tell me you rolled your eyes skyward when you heard that meyer would be teaching an ethics course.  

buckeyejonross

January 3rd, 2019 at 9:15 AM ^

How isn't it? You're grandstanding that you could never root for the sports of an entity that engages in morally and ethically poor decision making. 

I don't really care about Urban Meyer's stained legacy, because, get this, I'm not Urban Meyer or his family. Never even met him! Why would I care about his personal legacy or failings? Why should I care even any percent? He's an employee of the college I went to, and he did his job very well. Holding him up as anything beyond (or below) that is silly. 

The winning is worth it, because I'm not doing the lying or any of the other nonsense you're upset about. It isn't me. I don't do it. Why should I feel bad about it? And I super don't care about anything he did at a college 9 states away from mine.

cactus

January 2nd, 2019 at 5:01 PM ^

Just to clarify, I agree with you.  I don't think Urban is winning anything except football games, and if Heaven and Hell exist and St. Peter is up there deciding who gets in or not, I think Urban is going to be descending the staircase. 

I'm just basing this comment on the amount of positive attention Urban gets that elides all of the evil shit and leaves, for example, the viewer of the Rose Bowl with the impression that his legacy is brilliant and his future a well-deserved position at OSU teaching classes on character.

It's bullshit and it's evil.  But for a lot of people, even outside OSU, Urban is leading the life of a winner.  It's great that the LA Times published this; I just don't know how much it matters.

btn

January 2nd, 2019 at 12:58 PM ^

The last sentence warning USC to stay away is interesting, because I think the possibility of hiring Urban Meyer is why USC didn't fire their head coach this year.


Its got to be one of Urban's possible landing spots, and that USC AD department is poorly run.

GoBlueBill

January 2nd, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^

" Meyer will be co-teaching a class on character and leadership at Ohio State’s Fisher College of Business."

So just do the opposite of what he says ?

PopeLando

January 2nd, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^

He'll be coaching again in 3 years, if not sooner.

And how shitty for Coach Day. Your former boss quits, you get his job. But surprise! He's actually just in the office down the hall, looking over your shoulder and thinking about how much of a better job he could be doing.

Odds of Coach Day being replaced by Coach Meyer? 66%?

los barcos

January 2nd, 2019 at 1:18 PM ^

Yep - that is the direction my tin foil hat is pointing. 

It's a win-win for Urban.  His inexperienced and young handpicked successor either does really well...or he fails, and guess whose down the hall teaching a seminar in Ethics just waiting to step right back in as the Savior (once all the Zach Smith dust settles).  

 

100% Urban is coaching again, the only question is which team.  My money is still on OSU.

njvictor

January 2nd, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^

Literally the only people who don't feel the same way as this articles are OSU fans. Even Florida fans release how shitty of a person he is. OSU fans treat him like he did nothing wrong, and rewarded him with an assistant AD job, when they should've completely distanced themselves from him. Despicable.

jmblue

January 2nd, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^

Buck-I-Guy says:

“Things come up all over the place, in my personal life, surely with your personal life, with everybody’’ Chubb said. “It’s all about how you handle those things."

So he's OK with how Meyer handled Zach Smith?

 

Blastardz

January 2nd, 2019 at 3:17 PM ^

All they did was put meyer on retainer with that teaching spot. They'll test drive Day but meyer will be right there, in the shadows, maintaining the continuity of the program.

Harball sized HAIL

January 2nd, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^

This is tPOSu athletic dept.  The biggest hero in the history of tPOSu tried to kill a Clemson player on the field for the crime of intercepting a pass.  If he had access to a knife he might have actually slit the throat of a 20 year old on national TV.  tPOSu fans deify this attempted murderer.  

Their last 2 real coaches have "retired" in disgrace.  It's sucked being on the losing end of these games for 15 years but we haven't sold our soul and hopefully never will.

Blue in St Lou

January 3rd, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^

What a disgraceful post-game comment:

“When adversity strikes … people scatter,’’ he said. “The band didn’t scatter. The band was there. Buckeye Nation was there. We saw that, all throughout the adversity that we went through.’’