Harbaugh is Bo
December 29th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
Funny bc I never express my opinion about Bo here b/c the average person would lose their mind.
You only need to know about 2 games to know that Bo was good but not great. UM v. ND when he kicked to Rocket Ismail not once (dumb) but TWICE (un-fucking-believable).
And the Mich. v. Miami game where he turtled in 4th quarter, rolling out the red carpet for Miami to come back.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
My absolute Bo moment was the game he didn't even coach: the 1988 Hall of Fame Bowl. Bo was out sick, and Moeller took over. On 4th and 3 from the Alabama 20 with :50 left, Moeller called for a pass, D. Brown hit Kolesar, and Michigan won 28-24.
Bo would have NEVER called that play - he'd have run for the first down and called for time. He would have done what he always did: the tried-and-true, the conservative, the predictable. Didn't matter if everybody in stadium knew what was coming. He was Bo, and that's what Bo did.
We now have Bo 2.0 - except for the ability to beat Ohio State every other year.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
Nah Harbaugh isn’t Bo Schembechler. He’s Bo Pelini.
Prove me wrong.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^
Bo Pelini actually won his division and went to Indy(and Dallas, when Nebraska was in the Big XII).
When we hired Harbaugh, we thought we had hired the best coach in the country. Well, Harbaugh isn't the best coach in the country (that would be Nick Saban). He isn't the best coach in the B1G (that would be Mark Dantonio, after Urban coaches his last game). He isn't the best coach in the B1G East (same). He isn't the best coach in his athletic department (that would be John Beilein). He might not even be the best coach on his own staff (Don Brown can lay claim to that distinction). Hell, he's not even the best coach IN HIS OWN FAMILY (that would be John).
December 29th, 2018 at 4:28 PM ^
Kind of funny but hard to disagree. Wait for 2019???
December 29th, 2018 at 5:14 PM ^
Brilliant
December 29th, 2018 at 7:17 PM ^
Don't forget the young guy Ohio St. just hired. He seems to be one of these up and coming Lincoln Riley types. He might be the best offensive mind in the league. We shall see, but reading up on him, he seems like a really smart and normal guy. Not so strange like Urban and Jim.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^
Can't prove you wrong.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^
I will go to my grave believing that Moeller getting fired was the death knell for this program. If he stayed home that night, Lloyd never would have gotten his hands on this program.
December 29th, 2018 at 6:39 PM ^
Then our program wouldnt have the 1 MNC we won since the 1940s.
One coach in his first 5 years at Michigan HC: 44-13-3; 30-8-2 in conference with 2 Big Ten titles; 4 bowl wins.
Another HC in his first 5 years as UofM HC: 49-13; 31-9 in conference with 2 Big Ten titles; 3 bowl wins; one MNC.
Guess which one is the despised coach in this neighborhood and which is remembered fondly.
December 30th, 2018 at 12:24 AM ^
As of today you are dead right. Here's hoping to a more aggressive offense in 2019.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^
Don’t forget Minnesota 1986 and Michigan St 1987 when he let Demetrius brown throw 7 picks!!
December 29th, 2018 at 5:13 PM ^
#1 in the country poised to play for a national title and lose at home to fucking Minnesota
December 29th, 2018 at 11:32 PM ^
That first year, Harbaugh brought so much energy. On the sidelines, on Twitter. It's like he had a lobotomy. I'm bored of upper-middle class mediocrity now.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^
December 29th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^
No, Harbaugh is Mark Richt at Georgia.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
But he's starting to look more and more like Richt at Miami.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
Been saying it for a year now. Build a statue for a coach that never won a national championship. Won half of his biggest games, then 2-10 in rose bowls. Hire his puppet. What should we expect in 2018 with a coach stuck in 1986.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^
When you count the 10-0-1 season, Bo had something like 5 straight 1 loss saeasons in a row. This fan base would go apeshit if Harbaugh pulled off something like that.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
11 games < 13 games
December 29th, 2018 at 3:43 PM ^
Bo was good, Harbaugh isn't. How I wish Oakland was still in play. As far a a snake oil salesman, Harbaugh is unequaled. How in the hell a recruit would even listen to what UM is selling is beyond me.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:43 PM ^
Bo sucked against top teams too because he was conservative. Losing bowl games by scores of 9-7 and 13-12. Tell me, where has being conservative gotten us? Oh yeah, 26 bowl losses, more than any other school. 1 national title in 70 years. Yeah, makes sense not to open up the offense and gain an advantage.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^
I think the reality is Shea has some limitations and the offense that fit him best was run heavy. When he is asked to do too much the INTs and missed passes start piling up. As long as he is comfortable he can succeed.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:39 PM ^
Which is why I really hope there is something like an actual QB competition this off-season. I really like Shea -- he's got moxy. But I also think there is a very good chance that Dylan provides a lot more if he can only get onto the field. For one thing, Dylan will pull and be a real danger when he runs. For another, he's got a better deep ball. I hate the thought that Dylan may languish on the sidelines without a real shot to start, when Shea hasn't really shown the ability to operate this offense.
December 29th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^
We need Shea to run more. He’s an excellent dual threat QB but we just don’t use him correctly, imo.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
Let's be honest with ourselves: we're basically Iowa or Northwestern with more money, better marketing, and a bigger stadium.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
NW and Iowa at least both won their division
December 29th, 2018 at 8:09 PM ^
And access to a lot better talent. Which is why we are not basically Iowa or Northwestern.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:23 PM ^
December 29th, 2018 at 6:10 PM ^
That's a separate issue. Even without the bagmen, our recruiting is basically on par with that of Clemson and ND (who are in the CFP) and in the same ballpark as OSU, if recruiting rankings and star ratings are to be believed. But for some reason, those teams seem to get more out of their personnel than we do.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:44 PM ^
This may be true, but when JH came to town, this was still a huge improvement. If JH stays another 5 years and mostly replicates the first 5, it will still be a positive period in the program's history. Yes, it will be underachieving considering the expectations coming in, but still a big improvement and stabilizing time.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
Shut up
December 29th, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^
Troll
December 29th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
No national championship ,no BIG championship ,win 3 more bowl games .. That’s not positive for what he’s being paid and expected to do since he arrived
January 2nd, 2019 at 4:44 PM ^
TBF, I said mostly. I think he could reasonably win 1-3 B1G Championships, not win a semifinal, and I think I'd consider that a success, but if that comes to pass, it probably won't feel like it.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:40 PM ^
Going 0-10 vs. OSU will not be considered a high point for Michigan’s history.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
That is a slam on Bo.
Jim is not Bo. Hell No
December 29th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
Yep. Difference is Meyer respected the rivalry but played modern ball. Harbaugh still living in 80s. Honestly, Warde Manuel needs to tell Harbaugh he’s a CEO coach and to hire a young and aggressive OC.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:46 PM ^
Harbaugh is Hoke with more fan and institutional support
December 29th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^
Also more $$ to spend on assistants, and seemingly better assistants.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:30 PM ^
Don’t forget the junkets...
Maybe the team should have TWO international vacations to bond fully and make up for the tine some will not have when they refuse to play in the bowl games...
Can students on academic scholarships at M skip final exams because the outcome can potentially harm their futures?
Asking for a lot of friends...
December 29th, 2018 at 6:47 PM ^
Harbaugh is the best coach in the Big Ten. Brady was far from that.
December 29th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^
I know it’s legal in Michigan now but where can I get whatever you’re smoking
December 29th, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^
That was back when it was big two little eight.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:46 PM ^
Hate to say it because I’ve been on the Harbaugh bandwagon since day -100 but HE is the reason we are who we are. His team, his coaches, his philosophy and we are DONE. Welcome to 9-4 and 10-3 for the rest of your lives. We are nowhere close to what he had at Stanford and he has no clue how to get us there. Prove me wrong.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:24 PM ^
Andrew Luck may have been a factor
December 29th, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
David Shaw may have also been a factor.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:12 AM ^
Yeah, one point that looks pretty clear is that Harbaugh is not the QB whisperer that some made him out to be when he was hired. He did a good job with Rudock but he had already learned his craft and was a 5th year. There was only so much you could do with Speight talent wise obviously. But anyway, Harbaugh did a good job developing QBs before M but he was also lucky as shit during his time in California as he had a #1 draft pick in Luck, another former #1 in Alex Smith, and a talented 2nd round guy in Kaepernick. To have basically no competent QB play in his 3rd year and then have to rely on lucking into a bagman fallout 5 star transfer and still put up only 200/yds game with DPJ, Collins and sometimes Black is not good.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^
He can’t hold Bo’s jockstrap. Harbaugh is more like John L Smith with better talent.
December 29th, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^
Bo won big ten titles.