Ben Kercheval of CBS Sports Picks Michigan's Best Team.

Submitted by Firstbase on

Here's Ben's take. This would make a nice, big poster in the locker room:

Michigan

Michigan State: It's been clear-cut for several years now. Michigan State has owned its rivalry with Michigan lately, finished with a better record last season and would probably be favored against the Wolverines if the game were played today. Spartans coach Mark Dantonio played a lot of young guys during 2016's disappointing 3-9 season, but in the long run, it appears to be paying off. Sparty enjoyed a seven-game swing in the win column in 2017 and several of those players are juniors and seniors now. 

ToledoWolverine

August 15th, 2018 at 5:59 PM ^

I could not care less who picks us to lose, win, or whatever else people prognosticate. 2 weeks until the rubber meets the road and this team removes all doubt. 

 

Get your forks ready fuckers, there will be be plenty of crow to go around.

Richard75

August 15th, 2018 at 7:07 PM ^

It’s fine to think MSU is better, but the writer’s rationale is baseless.

2016 MSU was experienced. 2017 MSU wasn’t—it was one of the youngest teams in the country. For instance, none of MSU’s top 4 receivers in 2016 were on the team last year. It makes no sense to say 2017 was the result of a 2016 youth movement  

For some reason, evaluations that relate to U-M and its rivals are often based on contrived narratives like this. 

ToledoWolverine

August 16th, 2018 at 4:19 AM ^

You shouldn’t be scared, now if you were SpartyJen then you would have to worry about getting molested and/or raped by the team Doc or the basketball team only to have the higher ups cover it up. As SpartyJon your worst fear is getting sucker punched by a hockey player, or jumped by the football team if you live in the engineering dorm (tough guys, that lot) or if you happen to be black having a football player call you a....., well you men of character, you Spartans, you know the rest of the word(s) to that song.

 

I really despise that dump of a school. Be proud of yourselves. Wish it were a friendly rivalry but truth be told I can’t fathom how anyone would openly associate themselves with all that, that shitty green S stands for. Pathetic really. 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

August 15th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^

Well, the commentary is wrong on almost every point but his conclusion is reasonable.  The matchup is a toss up this year at this point, UM has high variability with Shea at a critical spot, and it’s in the trash bowl in EL. Picking MSU is a safe choice.

Jimmyisgod

August 15th, 2018 at 10:02 PM ^

Well, yeah, they’ve beaten us 8 of 10 including last year and they’re ranked higher than us in the preseason polls, plus we are in the road vs then this year. Have to earn it on the field, I think our game with them this year is a toss up. 

MGoStrength

August 15th, 2018 at 11:58 PM ^

How has it been clear cut?  They barely won in a rain storm with our 3rd string QB last year.  We won the year before.  And, we lost on a fluke the last play of the game in 2015.  That's the past 3 years.  

 

I'll give them 2010, 2011, 2013, and 2014.  They really took advantage of the late RR era and Hoke only beat them once with the last two losses as the worst.  But, JH's teams have not been "owned".  Oh well, time to prove it on the field.  It should be a good game this year, but I like our chances.

uminks

August 16th, 2018 at 12:36 AM ^

Looking forward to this game in EL! Our D will be better and our offense should be much better. Harbaugh is coming off of probably his worse Michigan season, so we'll see what happens.

saveferris

August 16th, 2018 at 9:04 AM ^

My counter to Ben's take.

  • Michigan's record since Jim Harbaugh took over is 28-11
  • MSU in that same span is 25-14
  • Michigan's bowl record is 1-2
  • MSU's bowl record is 1-1
  • MSU has a 2-1 advantage head-to-head with both wins being heavily influenced by sloppy ball control on Michigan's part as opposed to MSU strategic advantage
  • MSU has one B1G title to Michigan's none
  • Jim Harbaugh is still in a rebuilding phase to overcome the mismanagement left by the Hoke tenure
  • Mark Dantonio, entering his 12th season, continues to be outrecruited by Michigan, OSU, and PSU and is barely keeping pace in the B1G East Division

MSU has been competitive, but I wouldn't necessarily call that clear cut, but what do I know?  After all, MSU did win 2 more games than Michigan did last season, so they must be the superior team (roll eyes).

 

SpartyJon

August 16th, 2018 at 5:36 PM ^

Is Dantonio really being outrecruited?  The man has 3 B1G championships.  So either Dantonio is the greatest coach in all of football (which means UM has a problem), or Dantonio knows how to evaluate talent better than the recruiting services (which means your point is invalid) or a combination of both (in which case UM has a problem, since UM tends to chase starrzzzz).  

I can't wrap my head around the whole "Hoke left the cupboard bare" argument.  His recruits were there whole reason UM even had a fighting chance at success in 2016.  

"MSU is 1-1 in bowls".  In bringing up the bowls, you attempt to make two points.  One is that both teams only have 1 bowl win since Harbaugh took over.  You didn't mention that the loss was to freaking Bama, which would have waxed the Wolverines as well.  The hidden point is that MSU missed a bowl, which is duplicated in bringing up the 25-14 record.  I did notice you were remiss to mention MSU is 1-0 in CCGs while UM hasn't even been able to finish 2nd in the East.

MSU did win 2 more games, doesn't have to contend with changing its  offense for a one year free agent QB (who's less of a dual threat than Lewerke). Harbaugh has been unable to recruit one he wants on the field.  MSU won the recent battle in the Big House.  

MSU returns 19! starters from last year. Just as the UM returnees are getting better, one would reasonably posit so are the MSU starters.

 

Harbaugh's strategy has included having gunners on a punt where MSU had 11 guys in the box.  Harbaugh's strategy included throwing the ball around with a QB who couldn't start in a G5 conference in a monsoon.  It's safe to say that point is refuted.