Michigan recruiting by the numbers
2016
Composite Top 100 commits: 6
Composite Top 247 commits: 9
Total # of 4/5 star commits: 13
Total # of 3 star commits: 14
Class Rank: #8 overall
2017
Composite Top 100 commits: 6
Composite Top 247 commits: 14
Total # of 4/5 star commits: 21
Total # of 3 star commits: 9
Class Rank: #5 overall
2018
Composite Top 100 commits: 0
Composite Top 247 commits: 5
Total # of 4/5 star commits: 7
Total # of 3 star commits: 12
Class Rank: #21 overall
2019
Composite Top 100 commits: 2
Composite Top 247 commits: 3
Total # of 4/5 star commits: 5
Total # of 3 star commits: 5
Class Rank: TBD
For comparison, last year OSU signed 13 top 100 players and 20 in the composite top 247. In 2017 they signed 11 in the composite top 100 (five 5 stars) and 17 in the composite top 247.
Please go away
Girl, don't go away mad, girl, just go away
I remind you all of what George Carlin said ... "“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
SMDH
Fuck you, Bluey.
Troll
exactly
never seen such a miserable person who enjoys bitching 24/7
feel sorry for those who deal with him in real life
No chance this guy has, or will ever have, a significant other, nobody could deal with his $hit day in and day out.
he and the rest of the douchebag mafia are probably tying in their parents’ basements trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are.
Are you always this miserable or is it just your online persona?
He's not miserable. He loves this. We have to start leaving his threads with 0 comments.
Nobody gives a shit about your perspective. Be it based on numbers, stats, facts, or feelingsball. You lost whatever credibility you had, when you went all in on Beilein can’t recruit and we will never win with him as coach. Now kindly go fuck yourself with a rake.
Concern trolling is is the lowest form of trolling
You lost whatever credibility you had, when you went all in on Beilein can’t recruit and we will never win with him as coach.
Link?
Fuck off troll
Now youre going to act like you didnt start/contribute to multiple beilein cant recruit, fire beilein threads? This same loser will later claim he didn't start any Harbaugh can't recruit noise. Why don't you leave Michigan behind and head on over to rcmb where you belong maizen.
You will not be missed.
Should be easy to link then. Show me one fire Beilein thread that I started. You can't. Meanwhile...
Didn’t you start them under the name Maizen?
Are you going to actively deny that you are the reincarnation of Maizen? Really?
Shawn, its good to see you back in midseason form.
Pretty sure 90% of them can’t be linked because they turned into such shit shows the Mods caved them.
We all know, and that includes you, that those posts don't even exist anymore. So nice try.
LOL like no one remembers that. I remember it well. This board was unbearable early in the season the last 2 years in basketball and you were the biggest reason why.
Also, I don't follow recruiting a whole lot but I actually don't see what the big deal is. Of course recruiting matters, but the 21st class isn't that bad, and that was with a pretty small haul. 2019 is already looking much better. And we've heard that Drevno's recruiting was a problem and now he's gone. As long as we have a really good year (and I'm pretty optimistic about that), it's fine.
you are like that guy who got sued by his parents to leave his house
Reminds me of that part in The Jerk where Navin is showing the carnival goes what prizes they can win:
"If you only look at these years, in this geographic location, confined to Rivals rankings 75-113 with OLB named Bob who run with a limp, Harbaugh has NEVER signed one."
And each of those recruits have done more with their lives than you ever will
Sweet!
so you’re saying we’re on pace in 2019 for a class like 2016 (13-4/5 stars vs 14-3 stars). That’s how i read this since we’re currently at 5 and 5.
i’ll take a top ten class all day.
Keep the good news coming!
We're signing a class of 27 this year? Interesting. Where are the scholarships coming from.
So over the past 3 years, our recruiting class has been on average the #11.3 class in the country. That's pretty damn good. Are you expecting us to finish top 5 every year?
Top 10 seems reasonable for a $7 million dollar a year coach.
You’re short sighted, you say Harbaugh can’t recruit but then go to post Harbaughs #5 and #8 recruiting classes with 2018 not even close to over yet. You played yourself...again...
Where did I say Harbaugh can't recruit. It's amazing how many words are getting put in my mouth that I never actually said but you cares about accuracy when you got an angry mob.
You clearly were insinuating that Harbaugh is slipping on recruiting given by the original post and you bringing up his salary. We're not stupid; we can draw simple conclusions
He is slipping on the recruiting trail. That's in black and white and not debatable. Doesn't mean he can't recruit. You do understand the difference right? Doesn't sound like you do, so you can't draw simple conclusions. Quit putting words in my mouth. Thanks.
Just admit you’re a star gazer and be done with it
Just admit you're a blind follower and be done with it.
How much does Beilein make?
Not enough for what he's given us to cheer over the years. From Novack and Douglass making that first tourney in over a decade to Trey in the championship game to last season's finals. What he's done with this team is: Win banners, Beat Rivals and compete for national titles. Pretty much what every team wants to do.
Your analysis, true or not, goes over like a turd in the punch bowl.
What analysis. I posted numbers that are factually correct. No opinions. No takes. No nothing.
If there is no analysis, what is your point? It appears to me you've posted 2 good data points, one not so good data point, and an incomplete data point.
So what's your point? What is the point of any of your posts? The staff isn't trying hard enough? They should call you before making offers? They should use the 247 Composite to make all of their offers?
I was a bit annoyed at the finish to last year's class, but going 8-5 and losing the last 3 games of the season while the entire offensive coaching staff is being blasted by fans, media and I'm sure opposing coaches for being incompetent didn't help matters. We also lost our top 2 recruits to...the two teams that played in the National Championship. Show me a team that consistently recruits in the top 10 and ALWAYS underperforms...ok besides L$U or Notre Dame.
Things appear to have picked up this weekend and I think the class will finish fine (10-15ish). A 10-2 or better season will probably help as well - remember nobody can sign until December.
Any class that's not top 10 should be considered bad by Michigan standards. That we are talking about this in Harbaugh's 4th year should raise serious concern. But feel to not care.
"That we are talking about this in Harbaugh's 4th year "
WE are not talking about it. YOU are talking about it...again and again.
I'm really glad you posted the info above. It really discredits your whole narrative. Anyone who works with numbers and forecasts for a living will tell you that year three of Harbaugh recruiting looks like an anomaly and year four is trending to be back on the standards of year one and two.
I fail to see the sky falling in these numbers. Thanks for reminding everyone that Harbaugh is a good recruiter and after one off year he appears to be back on track. Great news!!! Thank you!
How exactly is year 4 trending back up again. Michigan is currently 17th. They are the crystal ball favorite for zero composite top 100 players at the moment. They are in line to receive several more commitments in the coming days and weeks from more 3 stars recruits. Please clarify. Thanks.
Would you like a spreadsheet?
2019 class currently has 10 commits. Let's assume Michigan signs an average class of 25.
Extrapolate that and your class finishes looking like this.
Composite Top 100: 5
Composite Top 247: 7 or 8
Total # of 4/5 star: 12 or 13
Total # of 3 star: 12 or 13
That is basically a duplicate of the 2016 class, slightly behind the 2017 class, and well ahead of the 2018 class.
Since neither you or I know exactly who will sign, who will de-commit, and where people will finish the year ranked, any further analysis/argument is baseless speculation.
Michigan isn't going to sign a class of 25 because they don't have the room. They are at the scholarship limit with 10 commits as is.
In the words of Mr. Incredible, why would they change math?!?!
You lost any credibility with the l$u part.
It all starts with good recruiting. The question is defining a good recruiting class. Previous data sifting indicates the teams with the most 4 and 5 star recruits tend to rise to the top of rankings each year (have the most in-season success). No one should be surprised by that. Nevertheless, many teams have sustained success without grabbing a handful of top 100 players each recruiting cycle (e.g., MSU, WI).
Furthermore, recruiting isn't the end-all in fielding a successful football team. Harbaugh continually attracts good coaches. Harbaugh is himself a top-tier coach. Brown is clearly at the top of the profession. Harbaugh and his staff have NFL cred, which is attractive to D-I kids who seek to play in the league. Good coaching goes a long way in attracting talent and developing it.
With all that said, I understand how fans of UM football (myself included) expect better recruiting results. Last year was kind of a "WTF?" moment. Michigan reduced to gathering up a bevy of 3 stars? Unthinkable with Harbaugh at the helm. We want to recruit at the OSU level, or at least within shouting distance of Meyer and his crew. An we don't want a kid from our backyard going to WI, especially if its a position of need. Perhaps the biggest issue now regarding recruiting is the uncertainty regarding the direction or trend of this program. Winning begets good recruiting classes. At a time when the luster of the Harbaugh hire had worn off, and when followers naively expected 10+ win seasons to be the norm, 8-5 happened. A lousy bowl game showing happened. Some high recruit defections happened. Shit happened.
This season could right the recruiting ship. We are set up for a helluva season. A tough schedule. If it turns out the way we all hope (not what the oddsmakers are predicting) it will be a terrific platform for recruiting. But we have to win some games we are not expected to win. We have to beat some really good teams at their house. I see this season as a real turning point.
I don't understand why you even root for this team? Why don't you just become a Bama fan if all your worried about is recruiting.
nobody believes he's actually a Michigan fan
Alum actually. Probably more than you and half the people in this thread can say.