Michigan recruiting by the numbers

Submitted by Bluey on

2016

Composite Top 100 commits: 6

Composite Top 247 commits: 9

Total # of 4/5 star commits: 13

Total # of 3 star commits: 14

Class Rank: #8 overall

 

2017

Composite Top 100 commits: 6

Composite Top 247 commits: 14

Total # of 4/5 star commits: 21

Total # of 3 star commits: 9

Class Rank: #5 overall

 

2018

Composite Top 100 commits: 0

Composite Top 247 commits: 5

Total # of 4/5 star commits: 7

Total # of 3 star commits: 12

Class Rank: #21 overall

 

2019

Composite Top 100 commits: 2

Composite Top 247 commits: 3

Total # of 4/5 star commits: 5

Total # of 3 star commits: 5

Class Rank: TBD

 

For comparison, last year OSU signed 13 top 100 players and 20 in the composite top 247. In 2017 they signed 11 in the composite top 100 (five 5 stars) and 17 in the composite top 247.

crom80

June 20th, 2018 at 4:58 PM ^

yea for maybe a week. but for most normal people there are other things in life.

 

you should call in to michigan insider and complain. this morning i heard this guy named terry complain and cry to sam about offering a middle school kid QB. a few callers later Carter from Deja Vu called to offer terry a freebie in the boom boom room to let him vent some steam. 

 

you should ask for carter.

trueblueintexas

June 20th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^

Life gets better when you finally realize it is not "my team". You don't put in the sweat and blood. You don't manage the coaching staff. Any amount you donate doesn't come close to paying for the program. 

You cheer for Michigan. Michigan is your alma mater (or not, doesn't matter). You are a fan. You may wear a lot of their apparel to show your pride and support. But Michigan is not your team. That defeats the whole concept of The Team, The Team, The Team.

docblueburg

June 20th, 2018 at 4:37 PM ^

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mtzlblk

June 20th, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^

You know....if everyone just ignored him and didn't respond or vote or pay any attention, he would just be the proverbial tree falling in the proverbial forest. 

Don't feed trolls.

PaulWall

June 20th, 2018 at 7:23 PM ^

For all the bitching about bluey,  everyone that comments about him is just as bad.  Yall make the posts more difficult to read than anything.  This actually has content.  Put your take about that,  and quit trying to be cool and get your digs in.  This board is becoming worse and worse by the day. Can't wait for the post in 10 minutes bitching about bluey. 

bronxblue

June 20th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^

I would agree it has content in that is has numbers and words, but as always Bluey/Maizen isn't willing to put any work into the parts of his "content" that disagrees with the negative premise he wants.  Note he didn't mention top-100 commits by OSU in 2016.  You know why?  Because Michigan and OSU were effectively identical there (6 to 7 M-OSU, with OSU's 7th #98 and Michigan's 7th #107).  And as for 2017, picking the top-100 is just a nice round number.  Had he picked, say, the top-150, then it's Michigan 11, OSU 12.  Top 250?  Again basically the same (14 to 15).  But again, those don't fit into the narrative.  And a super-premature 2019 discussion?  We're at 3 to 5 for top-250 commits, and that's still a long way to go.

So the only point he's making is that 2018 was a down year.  This is news to absolutely nobody.  And it's a point he's made a number of times, in various incarnations of this post/username.  So it's old and tiring and because it bugs him so much, people will keep pointing out how dumb it is.

 

bluepdx

June 20th, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^

Don’t go anywhere. The people who attack you would be praising you and lighting cigars in your honor if the numbers were more favorable and you posted them.

People rip the MSU and osu boards as loaded with homers, and then they turn around and whine anytime something is posted that does not fit neatly into the desired narrative. 

The numbers speak for themselves. These people just don’t want to see the numbers and blame the messenger.  

Jetsson68

June 20th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

I am fine with not having the consensus opinion.  Everyone can think how they want.  However, it is understandable that people view Bluey as a troll when this post goes up within an hour of a commit by a 2020 player rated (by 247 anyway) that is just outside the top 300.  

Bluey

June 20th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^

Well said. And don't worry I'm not going anywhere. I find it funny/sad how mad people can get behind their anonymous screen names. Some real vile things being said. If I didn't know any better I'd call it cyber bullying, but I know it's just people upset that don't want anything bad said about their precious football team.

Barn Animal

June 20th, 2018 at 5:06 PM ^

I agree here. Sure Bluey is a douche by constantly sharing any negative recruiting news but that doesn’t make him wrong. We haven’t signed a top 100 player in almost a year and it doesn’t look like any are coming in the near future. Recruiting isn’t fine right now but I’m thinking a good season will change that.

4th phase

June 20th, 2018 at 6:03 PM ^

It's one thing to be negative. There are posters that are consistently negative. It's just bluey that's obnoxious. Look at this thread, he's challenging people to link to his shit posts from an old account that got caved for being a douche. He knows it's impossible to prove he's maizen so he's being an ass about it.

Besides when his only reasoning is "Harbaugh makes $7 million" that's not analysis or information, that's a bullshit hot take. 

Bluey

June 20th, 2018 at 6:41 PM ^

What's bullshit is people saying I said all these things I didn't and then brining it up as if it somehow invalidates whatever point or discussion I'm trying to have. 

As for the Harbaugh salary part, you wouldn't expect a guy in the NBA who makes the veterans minimum to produce as much as James Harden or LeBron James or Kevein Durant. Guy is getting paid like a top 3 coach but hasn't been recruiting like one over the last year. Didn't coach like one either. That's not really debatable and it's funny people get mad when I point it out.

4th phase

June 20th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

So are you denying that you were/are Maizen and that you were wrong about Beilein? You aren't really trying to have a discussion, at this point you're just trying to be inflammatory. Not to mention it does invalidate your point, because again it just proves you get upset about something and post a fire from the hip hot take, with no regard to context and lacking any basis. 

To address the Harbaugh salary thing. No one is debating it or mad about it, you just keep going back to the same old well. And what are you trying to prove? That coaches should be paid according to their recruiting acumen and nothing else? Your example is weak so here is a better one: A few months ago, Stafford got the biggest contract in NFL history, then Garappolo then Cousins, then Ryan. Are any of them the best QB in the league right now? No. Sometimes the market and other forces push salaries out of line with performance. Just deal with it, it has no effect on your life. If you have such a problem with his salary then stop giving money to the athletic department through tickets and gear. 

I also want to point out how dumb your money argument is that you keep posting on here. You said something to the effect that "OMG Michigan has spent all this money on a new stadium and $20 million on weight room and $15 million on a performance center". Well that ignores the fact that Ohio State spent $45 million, Clemson spent $50 million on their football performance center, Oregon spent $70 million. So maybe you should be yelling that we aren't spending enough to get recruits...

Bluetotoy

June 20th, 2018 at 7:06 PM ^

Agree.

I am not up to speed on the particulars.  There is clearly some built up angst with the OP. 

You want to know why OSU has taken us to the woodshed - it's in black and white.  

I am in the camp that believes we are performing under normal historical Michigan standards under Harbaugh.  Due the last 10 years of utter incompetence, things seem worse.  The real gripe is the 1-6 vs the rivals.  In general, I believe the focus is now on football (not camps or media attention) and the "lucky" bounces will start to even out the results in the upcoming years.   

Without the huge classes in 2016 and 2017, last years recruiting class would be more concern.  2017 was lighter in quality and quantity.  I mean it is what it is.  There is a talent gap.  With Meyer as the coach, it's really hard to make up the difference in coaching.  Harbaugh has done a fantastic job the last two years.  

Dynasty

June 20th, 2018 at 7:37 PM ^

The obnoxious thing about blueys posts to me is that he says the same things/ brings up the same points every damn day. Obviously everyone wishes Michigan's recruiting mirrored Ohio State's or Alabama's... duh. But most people, by nature, don't enjoy being beaten over the head with negative news every-single-day, especially when there literally is nothing we as fans can do to change it. That's why he comes across as a troll.

simplymarv97

June 20th, 2018 at 5:08 PM ^

As a Buckeye fan, I've been following this site for a while just to get a feel of what how our rivals view OSU (despite the obvious dislike for OSU). I will be upfront that inwnjoy nothing more than seeing OSU beat Michigan every year, but I'm also objective about both teams when they don't play each other. This guy (Bluey) cracks me up so bad, since I started reading recently. At first I thought he just didn't like the recruting level of Mochigan, but after this post... I think this guy might need to take some time off the internet and just anything related to football.

Beilein 4 Life

June 20th, 2018 at 5:31 PM ^

Why do I get a sense that everyone agreeing with Bluey in this thread are just him signing in under different names. He seems to have pissed of everyone that isn’t him

Beilein 4 Life

June 20th, 2018 at 9:03 PM ^

What are you “right” about though? That OSU is recruiting better than us? Yeah, no shit. We don’t need a post each day of you reminding us that. It’s why people think you troll, myself included. You have a negative spin on everything. Just yesterday we got a recruit from Ohio that had an OSU offer and your reaction was that Urban really didn’t want him. That is what a troll does. Right now you are concern trolling about a recruiting cycle that doesn’t end for 7 months. That is what a troll does

WolverineinLA

June 20th, 2018 at 5:40 PM ^

Not saying it in the same way as Bluey/Maizen but he's right.

It is depressing to lose to OSU in recruiting and especially on the field. Recruiting leads to on the field results and this has been proven time and time again. Hard to get excited about 3 star commits. 

BuckNekked

June 20th, 2018 at 5:43 PM ^

And whats your point? And can you suggest a solution? Should we fire Harbaugh? Or ignore idiotic pointless drivel such as this? 

Tunneler

June 20th, 2018 at 6:01 PM ^

Do you think that people are unaware of the recruiting that has happened here & at OSU? Constant complaining makes you a troll.  Illustrating the obvious makes you a troll.

 

Can the mods ban his ip address yet?

StraightDave

June 20th, 2018 at 6:07 PM ^

I don’t understand all the bitching.   The elite teams in college football aren’t winning championships with a roster full of three star recruits.    The Blue dude has a valid point.  And by the way, nobody bitched to Brian after the Ohio St game when Brian said recruiting has to get better

mGrowOld

June 20th, 2018 at 6:18 PM ^

You really don't understand?  This place HATES bad news and especially hates accurate and factual bad news.

So rather than discuss the problem (and news flash here guys-our recruiting IS a problem) the mob would rather attack the poster who  pointed it out.

It's pretty damn predictable 

mGrowOld

June 20th, 2018 at 7:07 PM ^

I do like that and yes, lack of attention to Ohio (and Michigan too FWIW) while we chased a pipe dream with satellite camps is biting is in the ass hard right now.  

Recruiting is almost exclusively built on relationships and you can't build them in your backyard while your 1500 miles away in buttfuck Alabama trying to get rufus t bumwoody jr to come further north than he's ever seen on a map.  That's my #1 complaint.  Lack of attention to our traditional recruiting grounds has hurt us badly and burned out the coaching staff too I'll bet.