Is anyone rooting for MSU to win the Rose Bowl?
Is anyone rooting for MSU in the Rose Bowl? I suppose you could make a case that we ought to. The Big Ten's national perception is really bad, of course (thanks in part to ESPN's intentional submarining of the conference, IMO, but that's perhaps another post). A victory by MSU might have a positive ripple effect for the rest of the conference next year, especially when it's time to select the four teams for the Kodiak Smokeless Tobacco College Football Playoff Presented by Lloyd's of London and Kia Motors.
I know that I simply can't bring myself to root for MSU, though I have to respect what they've done with their program. I remember being a kid and seeing MSU go to the 1988 Rose Bowl and thinking that something just wasn't right about the situation, and I feel pretty much the same way now. Sure, they've earned the right to be there, but just a surely, the football gods must be offended by this current state of affairs. It is not right, in some fundamental way, like a household in which two dogs watch TV and use kitchen appliances while humans scamper around on the floor begging for scraps.
But anyway, is anyone rooting for MSU? I don't blame you if you are. As I said, it makes some sense.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:33 PM ^
I will not be rooting for MSU..
I get wanting to see the conference do well and improve the BIG national perception but MSU along with Ohio are our two biggest rivals so I will not be pulling for them. Maybe lose a close game, that's the best I could do.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:34 PM ^
This should be the only answer. I can't see how any Michigan fan could root for MSU.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:37 PM ^
Especially when MSU and Ohio have both owned us for the better part of 6 or 7 years.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^
Do you consider Lloyd Carr a Michigan fan? I just read a quote on Mlive that he will be rooting for them in support of the conference.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:52 PM ^
I don't know if there is a right or wrong...wait what am I saying? This is MGOBLOG, of course there's a right or a wrong! haha. I myself have a very hard time wishing State to do well but I'm also tired of the Big Ten being dogged.
December 31st, 2013 at 6:56 PM ^
for some reason i read the post you were referring to and thought it meant rooting against msu = right and rooting for msu = wrong. re-reading, my comment didn't really make much sense.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:01 PM ^
Well, he actually said something along the lines of he probably wouldn't be rooting for them if he still coached, but he wants to see the B1G do well.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:07 PM ^
Exactly, that's when he was a coach...now he's a fan. Not trying to be difficult...actually, I probably am so don't mind me.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:09 PM ^
Plus, he will be down there spending time around a bunch of sparty's while being inducted in to the HOF. He most likely answered the way he did to avoid being spartied the whole time he is down there.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:43 PM ^
might go 0 fer this year in the bowls and the perception next year will be even worse.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:48 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^
Lloyd Carr is not the ultimate authority on appropriate fan behavior.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^
No, but he did coach Michigan for 13 years and in doing so find him more of an authority than some random guy on a blog, myself included.
December 31st, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^
the only authority on my personal fandom is myself, but, at the same time, i post on here with the goal of becoming your singular authority on your fandom.
December 31st, 2013 at 7:03 PM ^
In my opinion, he more or less is.
I just can't see myself disagreeing with anything Lloyd might have to say about how fans should conduct themselves.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:54 PM ^
Stay Classy, LLOYD!!!
December 31st, 2013 at 1:39 PM ^
No.
If you live in Michigan, certainly no. Its been hard enough to stomach the infinite amount of crap they've been throwing at our fan the last six years, no need to give them a bigger shovel. Perhaps a loss will shut them up just a little around here.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:32 PM ^
Resources are finite. Everytime a regional rival does well, it potentially deprives us of the resources we want. This isn't sour grapes. Right now, and for as long as that staff is in EL, MSU is for real. IMO, pulling for MSU is loosing sight of the war. They aren't to be taken lightly. They aren't li'l bro. They are a team that has beat us 5 out of 6, are in our backyard, and won't ever give up against us. A win tomorrow helps them in recruiting. Right now, that is the only place we have been beating them.
Go Cardinal. Go Blue.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
I'd like for the B1G to do good this bowl season, but part of me just wants to see MSU and OSU get creamed.
December 31st, 2013 at 6:21 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
Does anyone around here have the ability to just watch and enjoy a football game? Does everything need a narrative?
December 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^
That's a complicated question, and to answer it, I think, we have to go back and start with the sinking of the USS Maine...
December 31st, 2013 at 1:50 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^
Yeah, with everyone's obsession with Michigan State it is getting really difficult to read posts on this board. The blog still has fantastic content on UMich sports, and ocassionally the board does as well, which is why I'm here. If you can't seperate Michigan State athletics from Michigan then that's too bad.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:21 PM ^
Or are they inextricably intertwined like Romulus and Remus?
December 31st, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^
Bad day at the office?
December 31st, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^
I find I can't watch a game (football, basketball, anything) without taking a side. I just can't do it. I instinctively pick a side and cheer for them. It's actually kind of frustrating, since even for games that should be purely neutral entertainment, I'll be frustrated if the team I pick loses. That being said, I'm absolutely not cheering for sparty. Hope they get pounded into the ground. The only two B1G teams I was really cheering for lost (Michigan and Minnesota), so at this point, I'll probably root for the B1G to just shoot the moon ala the 2008 Lions...
December 31st, 2013 at 2:02 PM ^
I certainly have the ability, just not when it comes to Ohio and MSU, as I want them to lose all of the time.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:09 PM ^
Is your human side getting the better of you?
December 31st, 2013 at 1:33 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:56 PM ^
Why do Michigan fans hate Dantonio so much?
December 31st, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
Speaking for myself, I dislike Dantonio for a few reasons. Firstly, and viscerally, he has acted like a Galactically Huge Ass Hat for the past few years. From his "where's the threat" comments to his actions at the HS Football event when he was a D-bag to Coach Heck, his words and deeds have been, at best, disrespectful towards the University, its players, and the coaches.
I think more rationally, my dislike stems from a little bit of jealousy, as he has done much more, with a lot less, over the past few years. He has shown to be a defensive mastermind as well as a highly accomplished recruiter, eschewing star rankings and focusing more on developing players.
With that said, he has seemed to soften a bit over the past year or so. When MSU players were tweeting nonsense during the Alabama fiasco last year, he came down on them publicly. After we (finally) beat them, he was relatively gracious and joked that he was glad that he wouldn't have to face Denard again. And this year, after the beatdown, he even voiced a bit of support for Hoke in the wake of the "fire Hoke" firestorm that was to come. I think he secretly loves every minute of our struggles, but he has tapered his comments a little, at leat publicly.
So, in short, he's a great coach and a douche nozzle all rolled into one grumpy looking package.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:57 PM ^
My son (an alum) had the unfortunate experience of flying back to his home in the L.A. area from Metro on the evening of the 28th. He said the plane was loaded with "trashy Sparties" (are there any other kind?) who, as luck would have it on timing, were hooting over our performance at the BWW. Fortunately, he has earphones that deaden outside sound. I'm sure to root for the Sparties, as they would for us.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:34 PM ^
For me, the 2013 season is over. I'll watch some of the remaining games for the enjoyment of watching football, but I really don't care who wins or loses any of the games. These games are about the past, I'm looking to the future. To a certain extent the AU Bowl and the Army AA Bowl, signing day, and spring practice, that's the future that interests me.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:35 PM ^
If it weren't for the late TD against K-State, the Copper Bowl would have been our worst loss of the season. As it was, it was the 2nd worst, trailing only the loss to MSU, but that was at MSU and the Copper Bowl was at a neutral site game. That's a roundabout way of saying that I think MSU is equivalent to a mid-level Big 12 team. Other than the B1G championship game, MSU's best win was at Iowa. (And I'm not sure how good OSU is, given their ridiculously easy schedule.) I hope Stanford blows them out and exposes them for the schedule-assisted fraud that they were this year. Wow, am I bitter.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^
The transitive property of football does not exist.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:35 PM ^
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December 31st, 2013 at 1:37 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^
1) Who the fuck cares?
2) No,, get fucking real.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:39 PM ^
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December 31st, 2013 at 1:40 PM ^
Cannot support Staee under any circumstances.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^
But for recruiting, I might be tempted to root for them -- stares at mirror, shakes head in dismay. Fortunately recruiting issues trump that thought. Go Cardinal!
December 31st, 2013 at 1:42 PM ^
I have 4 good friends in Pasadena watching the game; I'd like them to have fun.
The Big 10 needs a Rose Bowl win.
But I hate Sparty and don't want to hear the media and their fans for the next 14 months (and longer if UM loses in EL next year).
So, I don't know.... I'm confused (and sad)
December 31st, 2013 at 1:44 PM ^
I hate the SEC. I hate the fact that they think they're the most awesome thing ever, even though in their whole conference, it's been 4 teams that have made them relevant. Yet the fans of the crappy teams that go 5-7 every year still seem to hold onto that pride of "being in the SEC."
I want Michigan State to win because we need B1G wins to have any shot of making the top 4 slots that will bracket for the NC. If you can't root for your conference, then what's the point? What's the point of being the best team in a miserable schedule that gets no recognition? I hate MSU. I hate the SEC more. I don't care what happens with Stanford.