In defense of Borges

Submitted by tasnyder01 on

First, Michigan scored 34 points in regulation.  I don't think anyone was unhappy with how the 3rd quarter worked; despite the 1st half, we were in a position to win.  Then, we put on the brakes, which presumably gave the game away. Let's see how that worked.

with 6:35 left in the game, Michigan led 34-27. Herein lies the following drive:
7 rushes, 1 pass. 

What did this "putting on the brakes" do?
It gave us the ball on the PSU 28 yard line, on first down, with NO PSU timeouts left. The time read 3:10.

We ran twice, for 1 total yard; there were less than 2 minutes left and Michigan was within field goal range at the 29. 

I just don't understand how this could be construed as a failure. We took off 4 minutes left, and drove to within field goal range; if we made the field goal then the game is effectively over as we're up by two scores with less than 2 minutes left.

The failure:
Michigan then takes a delay of game. (Blame goes equally to Borges, Gardner, and Hoke). The DOG makes it 3rd and 14 from the 32 yard line; there are 80 seconds left and PSU has no timeouts. What would you do here? an incomplete pass gives PSU 30 more seconds, a QB draw is OBVS(!), and a run is also OBVS(!). 

Borges chose to run it, and we lost 3 yards, taking us out of field goal range. Yes, this was a problem, but I think it follows sound game theory. A run takes the clock down to 50 seconds, and the punt means PSU has to drive it 80 yards, with a FRESHMAN QB. I mean, everything had to go perfect for us to lose. Playing not to lose isn't really a bad strategy when everything has to go perfect for you to lose. I don't think too many people were moaning about the choice to punt it after the failed run.

OT
Then, people are bitching about the OT. In OT #1 and #3, all we had to do was make a field goal. I don't know what everyone's seeing, but I still think that game strategy dictates that you just take the 3 free points and go home with a win. The fact that Gibbons missed/had blocked 2(!) field goals is not on the play calling. 

OT is really what gets me. How does a pass, an end around, etc improve our odds of winning? We've got one of the best FG kickers in Michigan history, and were out around 25 yards. Of course, a TD could win it; DG also has 3 TOs at this point. Why not just take the easy 3 and go home? 

 

tasnyder01

October 13th, 2013 at 7:50 PM ^

The game wasn't "lost" per se when we failed to take the TO. (Remember, we were still up by 7, we still could have gotten in field goal range, they still had to drive 80 yards with a freshman QB, and even then, there was OT). Nevertheless, that was a bad decision, and needs to be rectified moving forward.

But the schoring successfully all game idea. . . They had scored 27 points through most of 4 quarters to 4 TOs. I mean, they had more TOs than TDs. I wouldn't call that super successful. Also, They had 1/4 of a playbook they could use from then on out due to time constraints. 

coastal blue

October 13th, 2013 at 8:19 PM ^

Stats don't take into account the difference in moments. 

How many of Gibbons' field goals came at the end of regulation for the win? How many came in hostile environments? How many came after a previous kick was missed? 

Football is not played in an emotionless void. 

M-Wolverine

October 13th, 2013 at 8:49 PM ^

Hit a career long to put us up 6 at the end of the OSU win, hit the Sugar Bowl Game winner, the MSU game winner (and all the other points), and forced OT vs. Northwestern. He's made big kicks before. It'd been smart to get him closer on any of them to up the percentages (though his easy one was blocked) but the odds of him missing THREE couldn't have seemed very high before the game.

coastal blue

October 13th, 2013 at 9:51 PM ^

Oh I understand that. I'm just saying the odds of him missing were higher in these circumstances than they have been had he had 6 or 7 field goal attempts on a sunny day at home against UMass when we are up by 40.

wiper

October 13th, 2013 at 7:19 PM ^

if that's the only defense that you can come up with for borges, he should be packing his things right now.

tasnyder01

October 13th, 2013 at 7:52 PM ^

the defense is that he did the things that put the players in the best position to win, at least at those three points in the game. I really don't think there's a better answer out there for the OTs, but I guess Mathlete would know better than I. If the odds are 90% of a win in both scenarios, why would that be a bad call?

The fact that we didn't win doesn't mean the coach didn't do the best job possible.

KBLOW

October 13th, 2013 at 8:57 PM ^

You're 100% correct.  Waiting until the 2nd half to bring heat on Hackenberg really cost us. On both short field TD's we gave him all day to throw. We only rushed 3 on the first one (a 3rd and 9). And obviously only sending 4 on PSU's final drive was dumb regardless of Stribling playing or not. The kid didn't make a long completion all day when we blitzed and IU won that game b/c they were pressuring him all day. The IU tape should have made that clear to Mattison.  

Magnum P.I.

October 14th, 2013 at 1:15 AM ^

You're just picking fights now. Mattison didn't have a great game, either, but PSU's first two TD's were off of turnovers with a really short field. Those points are more on the offense than the defense. Gardner made a couple of poor passes on those INTs, but the poor guy only gets to throw when it's third and 11 after two stuffed run plays, trying his best not to mess up so that his passing privileges are further reduced.

cbs650

October 13th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^

on 3rd and 14 with an athlete like Gardner, u give him a run/pass option. if nothing is there he can run to pick up cheap yards or throw it away and still give your kicker a chance.

goblue16

October 13th, 2013 at 7:22 PM ^

My problem with the offensive staff is why do we have 5-6 rbs on our depth chart when only one is playing?? I have never seen a staff so hung up on one we have sooo much depth at this position. What's the point of recruiting all these rbs when none r getting a shot to play. Plus if I'm a top rb why would I commit to Michigan knowing that if I end up being the backup I might never play a down?? Other schools r more than willing to play 2-3 rbs. Honestly I feel real bad for Hayes the guy decommits from nd to go to Michigan when he could have had lots of playing time at nd

yostlovesme

October 13th, 2013 at 7:23 PM ^

I agree with this. With an non-existent o line and a qb who tends to throw pics running the ball three times then taking the 3 points from someone who has shown he can make them when he has to makes sense to me.

MaizenBlue93

October 13th, 2013 at 7:24 PM ^

MGrowOld is right about these threads. 34 points are definitely not Borges's. What about Frank Clark's scoop and score? What about the interception that lead to a field goal? What about when Michigan got the ball at midfield off of a punt, and could only get a field goal? That's 13 points that I can think of not being entirely Borges's. And 21 points against Penn State's defense is nothing to be proud about. Borges is a horrible offensive coordinator, end of story.

tasnyder01

October 13th, 2013 at 8:16 PM ^

I do think Borges needs to go. What I'm stating is that not all of this is on him, and he in fact did better than most give him credit for.

P.S. I've thought Borges needs to go since last year. I just think we're pouring a little too much vitroil on him right now. People like simple things, and scapegoats are simple; I think there's a little bit of grey in this black-and-white picture everyone is painting.

JT4104

October 13th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^

It comes down to the fact that we are back to the Lloyd Carr style of don't make a mistake and take no chances. If Michigan keeps attacking to end the game I'd bet it doesn't even get to the point it did.

God forbid you score a late TD instead of trying ot burn clock. At what point besides the last drive had PSU actually driven the length of the field?

MGlobules

October 13th, 2013 at 7:40 PM ^

Borges has been MUCH more of a risk-taker than Lloyd, as Brian has repeatedly pointed out. But don't let's let facts get in the way of our plebian call for the King's head. 

Because it feels good to be in a big crowd and watch somebody pay the price. One of humanity's little weaknesses, but hey. . . 

gutnedawg

October 13th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^

Ok so let's examine the run on 3rd at the end of the game. I don't think anyone would say that we should try and go for the first down with a throw for obvious reasons but why try and run the ball against a stacked box when you haven't been successful all game running the ball like that. Going by averages we would have gained a yard or no more than 4 so that's 3rd and 10ish and still a 48 yard kick. Basically we conceded that we were going to punt by running that play because I doubt Hoke kicks the 48 yarder. Instead, why not spread the field in a 3 wide or 4 wide set and run an option or some sort of screen? This gives you a better shot at getting the first and probably gets you 7 or so yards because I doubt PSU plays close coverage

Blue Durham

October 13th, 2013 at 7:48 PM ^

Considering that this wonderful Borges offense also gave Penn State the ball on Michigan's 14 and 20 yard lines, leading to two Penn State TD's, the offense ends up essentially net plus 13. Net +13 is really bad. This against a defense that gave up a million and a half to Indiana.

reshp1

October 13th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^

I'm not upset about the strategy to bleed clock. That's what every damn coach would do. The problem is our team sucks at the one play that is good for bleeding clock. You don't have to throw, but using our worst play over and over again is not advisable given the 1 YPC stat so far. We absolutely need some misdirection to help ourselves out there. We were burning PSU on read options, inverted veers, etc for a few series there. That is almost as safe and every bit as good as I-form for bleeding clock, yet a lot more likely to pick up some yards. Instead, we held up a giant sign that said we're running up the middle and proceeded to do just that, lighting down after down on fire.

I agree, I have no problem with OT1 and 3. That's the smart play, kick the field goal and go home. The OTs where we played offense first weren't all that conservative.

In the end, we had more than enough opportunities to win and failed on every single one. We deserved to lose.

coastal blue

October 13th, 2013 at 8:08 PM ^

Disagree on OT1. A 40 yard field goal is not a guarantee, especially in a hostile environment and especially after your kicker just missed a game winner. We should have tried to make it as easy on Gibbons as possible and the coaches did not do that. 

OT3, I agree to a large extent, but having 3rd and 1, we should have at least tried a play that might succeed instead of the one that hadn't succeeded all night. Again, while I expected Gibbons to make that one, we should have tried to make it as easy on him as possible and again we settled on the exact spon we were in rather than trying to advance the ball. 

jshclhn

October 13th, 2013 at 8:33 PM ^

Whether you are an old school coach that has been through hundreds of games or just a coach potato like me who likes to look at some stats, we all implicitly or explicitly subscribe to some type of situational football strategy.  Because these strategies are all based on prior experiences, by default they average everything - they work best if your team is average in every facet of the game and so is your opponent.  

To make these strategies truly effective, you need to be able to make some tweaks.  A 6-3 game is very different from a 50-47 game, and playing a cupcake is a little different than playing Alabama or your biggest rival (to use a few extremes).

When you have essentially zero production from your running backs, it is appropriate to tweak your game theory strategy.  We can certainly argue about what exactly that might be, but presumably it would be anything other than I-form HB run between the tackles.

MGlobules

October 13th, 2013 at 7:43 PM ^

manic depressives now putting on their bicycle helmets because the sky is falling will be--in an equally exagerrated way--telling us all we're going to kill MSU. You didn't used to have such very lame stuff predominating here. But as the numbers rise the collective IQ, inevitably, plummets. 

gustave ferbert

October 13th, 2013 at 7:46 PM ^

from earlier in the week.  Penn State has depleted personnel, especially on the defensive side.  The accountability begins with the coaching.  And it's been a problem all year.  It's just now we finally got burned and lost.  And Hoke has still yet to beat a 500 team on their home field.

AlwaysBlue

October 13th, 2013 at 7:47 PM ^

was screwed out of a first down that led to them having to take the last FG. This team had multiple opportunities to snatch the victory and failed. This a young team, on the road. It's all part of the process.

evenyoubrutus

October 13th, 2013 at 7:51 PM ^

This makes me sad, because this probably mirrors a transcript of the offensive coaches meeting with Brady Hoke today. And I'm sure that Brady looked at Al, breathed deeply, nodded and said "Weeelllll... I concur"

Toby Flenderson

October 13th, 2013 at 7:50 PM ^

No, im tired of making excuses for this guy. Can we stop? there is a reason he has been bouncing around for 30 years as a OC, he is just not that good. There is a reason he was fired from Auburn then needed to go to SDSU.

alum96

October 13th, 2013 at 8:11 PM ^

Borges was let go BEFORE A BOWL GAME at Auburn as his offense degraded the past 2 years significantly from where it was earlier.  He had a great offense in 2004 with 2 stud RBs.  By 2007 they didnt even want him coaching the bowl game.  I looked at the stats about 6 months ago but the 2006 and 2007 seasons were not pretty compared to 2004/2005.  The offense was 101st in the nation in 2007.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2007/12/al_borges_out_as_auburns_offen.html

(edit - I relooked up the stats)

2004: 420 yards per game playing with the #1 defense in America, 32.1 PPG

2005: 410 yards per game, 32.2 PPG

2006: 321 yards per game, 24.8 PPG

2007: 335 yards per game, 24.2 PPG