Thanks Coaching Staff
It's unbelievable how our staff rolled over and died. I am sick to my stomach right now. This game is completely on the coaches. They didn't put their players in a position to win this football game. And don't delete this thread, beacuse Brady Hoke will be the first one to tell you the same thing I just did.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:25 PM ^
"beacuse Brady Hoke will be the first one to tell you the same thing I just did"
Wouldn't that just make it redundant? Come on people, I'm up for some epic flaming out but there's no reason we can't be concise here
November 24th, 2012 at 3:25 PM ^
Stop.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:26 PM ^
Denard was hurt a lot worse than we were told.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:16 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:26 PM ^
Denard was hurt a lot worse than we were told.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 4:12 PM ^
Really? Did you watch? He was the only player who did anything on offense. Not his fault he was lined up at QB on plays that everyone knew were going to be QB runs.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 PM ^
Mattison is undoubtedly an evil genius unmatched by any other so it's not the whole staff
Borges' playcalling certainly did not 'put us in a position to win' though. I do feel like we went 3-and-out with the same 3 plays in the first few drives in the 2nd half.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:28 PM ^
This one is all on Big Al. Defense was solid, holding them to two field goals in the second half despite constantly being put in bad positions.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 PM ^
They shriveled up big time. The second half was awful. Mattison has been awesome and did an amazing job today. Borges and Hoke were terrible in the second half. They blew it for the seniors. I'm not totally on the fire Borges bandwagon, but I wouldn't be against it. It's hard to defend him after today.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:29 PM ^
I thought the coaching staff did well besides Borges. Mattison made his adjustments.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^
Some of you are unbelievable. It is a loss to a good football team in a rivalry game on the road. Could they have played better? Sure. Could they have coached better? I'm sure they would the coaches would admit to it.
I think after every loss we should fire a coach or cut a player because that is rational. ////ssss
I know I will get flamed but some of you need to grow up.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:35 PM ^
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November 24th, 2012 at 3:40 PM ^
I agree and I am not a Borges apologist. His play calling did not work at all in the second half but people need to chill out a bit. Its not like we have loads of talent at the skill positions. This is not a knock on any player but we are pretty thin on elite talent. Hoke has had one full recruiting class. It takes time.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:22 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:36 PM ^
If you think the hatred for Al Borges' incompetancy stems solely from the criteria you mention above, you're missing the mark. Today exemplifies a long line of grievances. It does not define it.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:37 PM ^
that offensive calling cost us some big games this year. If someone isn't doing a good job, then should they keep doing the job?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^
that offensive calling cost us some big games this year. If someone isn't doing a good job, then should they keep doing the job?
November 24th, 2012 at 3:47 PM ^
I think that everybody doesnt feel that way becasue with the way the defence played, we should have won. If Borges stays on course with simuilar play calling in the first half we would have scored at least one touchdown.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:09 PM ^
A great or bad coaching staff makes all the difference in the world. Don't you think Michigan deserves to have one of the best if not THE best staff in the country? Lord knows they can afford it.
Look at our defensive turn around after Mattison took over, Look at the 49ers after Harbaughs staff took over and look at Ohio after Meyer took over. Bill o' Brien took Paternos 3rd and 4th stringers and turned them into a better football team than they where last year. So yes i believe coaching staffs should have a short leash. If they prove they can do great things then by all means let the leash out but if they prove to be inept then get someone in to do a better job.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:31 PM ^
Thanks to Hoke and Mattison for a great season. If it weren't for them we'd be 5-9 instead of 8-4 this year. Air Force, Sparty, and Northwestern would've edged us without great defense to hold and keep us in those close games. Of course if it weren't for Borges dicking around and wasting entire drives, quarters, halves, games, and maybe wasting this entire fucking season team 133 could've easily been 11-1 this year too. So Notre Dame, Nebraksa, and Ohio thank you Al. Fucking thank you so very fucking much. Fuck!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 PM ^
Not that I don't agree with the sentiment, but how is it that we would have played two more games if Hoke and Mattison weren't around?
November 24th, 2012 at 4:07 PM ^
+1 Nice catch. I'm just mad and drunk and I added 5-9 in at the last second. We correctly would have been 5-7 were it not for their efforts.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:31 PM ^
Is it just me or did the play calling on offense completely change in the second half?
I don't fault Hoke for going for it on 4th and short, but the play calling/play selection is what I don't understand. I feel like that's been a consistent fault all year long.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:34 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:36 PM ^
Al Borges just called another run up the middle.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:37 PM ^
Borges put together one of the most creative gameplans i've ever seen. It was beautiful for a game and a half. Not sure what transpired here at the end.
that said though... no great team should be incapable of running for one yard the way we were today. Thats not coaching. It is never one person.
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November 24th, 2012 at 4:15 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:37 PM ^
then there wasn't much to do in terms of personnel and this is a lot of nosebleed about play-calling. If he was able to go, though, then Borges was not able to tell that Denard is better than Rawls/Smith, which is pretty hard to do. He essentially benched the most prolific offensive player in Michigan football history in the fourth quarter of the Game when he was down one score. If that is the case, pretty hard to excuse it. And, difficult to understand why Hoke cannot overrule that call.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^
Fire Borges for sure!
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^
Al Borges = GERG
November 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^
FIRE BORGES!!!! I am not being overly emotional I have been saying it since Iowa last year. He is the weak link who cost us ANOTHER game.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:39 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 PM ^
why no FLY look with Denard, how about them both in at the same time? no designed DG Runs?
I dont mind losing when you get beat, but i hate losing when you beat yourself.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:42 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^
Playcalling aside, there is no excuse for not utilizing the tools you have available. With the most electrifying player in college football rushing for over a hundred yards in the first half, Borges' adjustment is to take him out of the game. With a quarterback who has done nothing but win offensive weekly awards since starting out of the blue, you decide to run it up the gut non-stop for an entire half, not making it past the 50 yard line the entire time.
This is not about Borges "not having the tools". It's about him not having the expertise to use them. Find somebody who does. Or, at the very least, can learn how. That is the hallmark of a good OC.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:45 PM ^
the end of the 1st half. Denard breaking a sandwich tackle bailed out some poor clock management and questionable play calling.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:45 PM ^
November 24th, 2012 at 4:02 PM ^
It's even worse than that. He did use it, and it was incredibly successful, then he abandoned it in the second half, and the offense lost all effectiveness. We didn't cross midfield in the entire 3rd quarter. So in the 4th quarter instead of going back to what was so effective, he just sticks with the hapless gameplan. He used it, saw how well it worked, then threw it away to lose instead.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:46 PM ^
The Borges press conference is gonig to be interesting to say the least. If he even TRIES to justify all those runs up the middle, I'm going to bash my head into the wall.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:47 PM ^
Ohio had some of the worst tackling and most yards after contact in the country, and a great interior defense. We had a horrible interior offensive line, and a bunch of experienced, fast, elusive, spread personel. So what do we do? Run it up the gut over, and over, and over, and over again. Many times without a passer even on the field! It hasn't worked against anybody all fucking year! This isn't difficult. If something never works, then you try something that likely will. You certainly don't keep trying the same negative yardage play over and over again.
November 24th, 2012 at 3:48 PM ^
When you can't run the ball, play action passes are not going to work. Meaningless. Denard not on the field at the end in some capacity is total mind-boggling.