Kaminski16

July 29th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^

MiamiSpartan said...

Unlike Brandstatter, UM slappies, and some others, Dantonio is able to realize that there is more to college football than just what takes place on the field. Thus he praises him as someone who positively impacted the lives of everyone that he comes into contact with. That means college coaches, high school coaches, players, families, etc. In other words, all of the things that are of the greatest importance to Dantonio.

Has a more hypocritical statement ever been made?

BlueDragon

July 29th, 2011 at 6:26 PM ^

Half of those weren't consensus titles; State was voted #1 in just one poll, and Michigan only claims National Titles when they have consensus votes.  If Michigan counted the way the Spartoons do, Michigan would have 22(!) national titles.

Link:  http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/claimed-national-titles

Also:  Wake me up when y'all get a Heisman winner.

WalmartHypocrisy

July 30th, 2011 at 1:31 PM ^

Yes, you're right. It's very impressive you only count those consensus votes from the late 19th century. Back when it was either you, Princeton, or Ann Arbor High School, I'm sure it was difficult to consolidate those national titles. So does the 1997 national championship not count then, since many people thought Nebraska deserved it?

BlueDragon

July 31st, 2011 at 1:24 AM ^

I just love how Tressel's cover-up arguably cost State a trip to the Rose bowl, and Dantonio still defends him publicly as a "tragic hero."  And now Kirk Cousins is shooting his mouth off about guests who introduced themselves as Michigan fans at a wedding.  State doesn't act like a perennial contender program, because (suprise!) they haven't won an outright Big Ten title since 1987.  Watching Dantonio's "perennial power program" vs. Alabama was very amusing, thank you.

bacon1431

July 29th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^

I don't know who this Mark Dantonio is, but as far as I'm concerned he's never had a real meaningful relationship with a mentor in his entire life.

At least one that should be a mentor.

profitgoblue

July 29th, 2011 at 3:55 PM ^

I despise Dantonio but he's right in one respect - who the f-ck cares about Brandstatter's opinion on the subject?  He's just a talking head weighing in on something he technically knows nothing about (never coached at the college level, etc.).  Even though Brandstatter is right, I would have responded the same way Dantonio did.

 

gbdub

July 29th, 2011 at 4:04 PM ^

Did I miss a /s? Brandstatter never coached at the college level, but he was coached at the college level by a certain Bo Schembechler. I think he has some degree of experience with the appropriate behavior of a college coach with integrity.

profitgoblue

July 29th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^

By all accounts, Tressel was the best coach to his kids.  He was supposedly an outstanding mentor and teacher.  That is the only side that Brandstatter would have seen with Bo as well.  With respect to dealing with compliance/legal issues, etc. Brandstatter would have no knowledge and continues to have no knowledge.  I completely agree with what he says, but he has as little idea about the situation as I do.

gbdub

July 29th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^

Well no, Brandstatter doesn't know first hand about the day-to-day of a coach filling out compliance paperwork (apprently Tress doesn't either /HALOL). But to imply that that makes him unqualified to comment on the heroic status of a person who lies on said paperwork is stupid. That's the argument Dantonio was trying to make, and it's a dumb one.

As to your first couple sentences, that's exactly the hypocrisy that makes Tress gross. How can you be a good mentor when your approach to discipline in a serious NCAA infraction is, "I don't want to hear about this so I'm gonna sweep it under the rug now get out of my office"? The fact is, Tress thought it was more important to alert Pryor's "mentor" (sugar daddy / handler / agent) than to fulfill his contractual obligation to deal honestly with his own compliance department and the NCAA. That is not the mark of a man with integrity, regardless of the game he talks, and it doesn't take a college football coach to see that.

BlueHills

July 29th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^

Dantonio is not my favorite person, I just don't care for his BS.

I'll acknowledge that he's the best coach LB has had for a long time. But he's got his head up his ass.

redhousewolverine

July 29th, 2011 at 4:40 PM ^

Breaking News from the Big Ten Media Conference:

Mark Dantonio doesn't know who Shakespeare and Aristotle are. When asked on the subject and how they might respond to some of his irrational comments concerning former and disgraced TSIO coach Jim Tressel, Dantonio had this to say:

"I have never heard of these guys. Clearly, they have not been in a leadership role with young men." He continued by stating this: "I doubt they have ever known the joy of being able to mold impressionable young minds into well-rounded young men. Never holding a position of responsiblity like mine, they probably haven't instilled the values of character, virtue, and honesty into young men."

After having much success in MSU these last couple of years belittling people with a more impressive diploma and shorter than himself, we find it odd Coach Dantonio would take on the literary and philosophy crowds. One would think with his rival resurging in Ann Arbor, he might want to spend more time on the recruiting trail to make up for several misses in the state of Michigan, rather than draw the ire and angst of classical, english, and generally anyone with a hich school diploma across the country. This type of press might be what he is looking for to rekindle MSU's national recruiting base.

Dantonio did want to stress his relationship with Jim Tressel as one of a "mentor." He stated, "I learned a lot under that man. His tutelage tought me the value of character and integrity, which I now instill into my young men. Go ask Aristotle if he understands what it is like to flourish under the guidance of such a wise and respected 'mentor.' Go ask Shakespeare what his contribution is to the next generation."

When we followed up with questions concerning his tutelage of Winston and the other suspended MSU players from the dorm massacre, Coach Dantonio only gave us one of his patented and unwarranted smirks and growled as he walked away, "Go investigate Dick Rod, you liberal Michigan slappies!"

Well Bob, thanks for the good reporting on the ground. One can only wonder, how this man has a job and thank God he doesn't coach at my school.

Tater

July 29th, 2011 at 4:43 PM ^

I find nothing "tragic" about Tressel's severence package or the pension he is now eligible to collect after his career at two state universities.  The wording of "retirement" made Tressel a lot of money.  

WalmartHypocrisy

July 29th, 2011 at 6:25 PM ^

It was nice of Hoke to give Stonum a fourth chance. I admit, I was surprised mgoblog wasn't blowing up in anger over his reinstatement. I thought a second chance was enough to turn you guys into an angry mob?

 

Then again, when you have one hand condemning Tressel for cheating while the other is trying to raise a Fab Five banner in that cave of a basketball arena, I guess hypocrisy comes naturally to you.

BlueDragon

July 29th, 2011 at 9:32 PM ^

Please link to a specific front-page post (or Board post) where major members of the MGoBoard have called, en masse, for the re-raising of the Fab Five banners in our (soon to be fully renovated) Crisler Arena and Player Development Center.  Speaking of which, I hear State got knocked out in the first ("second") round!  Ouch!

As for Mr. Stonum, he is still suspended indefinitely.  If he is suspended for zero games next season, then we might see more pitchfork-wielding bloggers flooding the MGoStreet.

willow

July 29th, 2011 at 4:58 PM ^

Jim Brandstatter is a member of a numerous (and LARGE) EL family who sent  sons to MSU in the 60's and 70's to MSU for football and basketball.  He is the only one who saw the light and toddled off to AA.

MGoShoe

July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^

...Willow. See this MVictors.com post on why Dantonio's comment is even more laughable than at first glance.

In reacting to the twitter bomb, Dantonio claimed he didn’t know who Brandstatter was.  I’m guessing he does but if he doesn’t, he should.  Not because of Brandy’s longtime broadcasting career with the Lions and the Wolverines, but rather due to his deep family ties to East Lansing and the Spartan football program that date back to the 1930s.   Jim was born in EL and his father Art, Sr., and brother Art, Jr., each suited up for the Spartans.  (My family used to live down the street from Art, Jr.)

Art, Sr. had quite a career for the Spartans in the 1930s, earning All-American honors in 1936.  The elder Brandy is enshrined in MSU’s Hall of Fame and received consideration from ESPN’s Adam Rittenberg to be placed on the MSU football “Mount Rushmore”.

Dantonio is undoubtedly the biggest jerk in the state of Michigan.

neoavatara

July 29th, 2011 at 6:03 PM ^

Is that MSU fans dont realize that OSU's cheating cost them the Rose Bowl bid.  

So Dantonio is basically defending someone who cost his team a BCS bowl. 

Idiots. 

BigHouseBlue18

July 29th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

 I have to say I really dont like that guy even a little. My dislike of this guy started in the begining before he even beat Michigan. There is just someting about him that dont ring right with me. He is a d-bag no question. He is rather immature for a man that is a head coach of a college football team. MSU fans should in fact question is loyalty. Ohio offers him a job he is gone. Simple is that. If he wants to be at Ohio or not isnt the point the point is he is at MSU and while he is there he should always want what is good for MSU. Defending Tressel isnt whats good for MSU.

 

For the record Tressel lied to keep his players on the field not because he was afraid of their safety. Thats proven in itself when he contacted Pryors sugar daddy but nobody else. Not even the other kids involved. He the pretended he knew nothing about it after the case came to light. He is NOT a tragic hero. He is a guy who wanted to win football games. Not even in the same boat.

 

Keep in mind lots of people do good things and they also make mistakes but when you make the same mistakes for years and years you lose all credibility. At one time I respected Jim but now I know he dont deserve it.

Ernis

July 30th, 2011 at 11:49 AM ^

Our in-state rivals deride us as self-righteous, arrogant, sarcastic, and elitist. Yet Dantonio is the embodiment of these things.

yossarians tree

July 30th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^

Trying to get my finger on the exact nature of Dantonio's doucheyness, and I think he kind of reminds me of one of those creepy superior bible-thumpin' preachers. Sort of like John Lithgow in "Footloose".

Come to think of it, sort of like Jim Tressel. Or Woody Hayes.

stmccoy

July 30th, 2011 at 2:38 PM ^

Dantonio is such a scumbag.  Brandstatter could not have articulated a better response.  Unreal.  I hope we beat the piss out of them this year.  Or every year.

JEL

July 30th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^

He grew up just outside Columbus, coached in Ohio under Tressel who he admires so much he gave his son a job, his dream is to return to Columbus God willing maybe even as Ohio’s head coach (if only he had the heart for it).  This is why he's a douche.  MSU fans know this, and that's why they get so mad. Because in the end there is no loyalty to MSU, it's just a bump in the road.