Who on the team will get drafted and what round?
I'm sure this has been done before, but...
im curious to see people's predictions on who on the current roster will get drafted and where in the draft they will go.
Here's my go at it:
Martin - Early 2nd
Van Bergen - 6th round
Roh - 5th round
Mouton - 5th round (only because of measureables)
Denard - early 3rd
Tate - 7th
Stonum - 3rd
Lewan - 1st (top 15)
Schilling - 3rd
Molk - 3rd
Omameh - 4th
Koger - 7th
Denard is a really hard one to predict. If not for the recent successes of Vick and Vince Young, I would have said 5 round. However at this point, teams might be more open to quarterbacks in that mold. On the other hand, a team might take him with the plans to convert him to reciever.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:48 PM ^
Denard isn't an NFL QB. Vick and Young are markedly taller than he is. He'll make a good Josh Cribbs. Look at Pat White, about the same size as Denard, and he didn't really work out.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:53 PM ^
Yeah I see Denard playing like a Cribbs type of player or maybe even a slot guy like Welker.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:58 PM ^
How could he be like Welker? Can't only white guys be like Welker? Denard will be like a Devin Hester or Josh Cribbs for sure.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:10 PM ^
Denard is not scrappy enough to be like Welker.
However, he is a natural athlete like Devin Hester.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:57 PM ^
Antwan Randle El is the obvious choice for who Denard will be like.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^
is 6' tall, he's not markedly taller than Denard.
Pat White is not a good passer and shouldn't be a QB. Denard is a better passer than White.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:21 PM ^
You took the words right out of my, uh, keyboard...
I grew up in ATL, so am familiar with Vick as a Falcons player. Definitely not a tall guy, he's 6' at most. I can't speak for Denard's height, but there's probabyl not more than an inch or so difference.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 PM ^
So he is... I could have sworn he was like 6'2" or 6'3". C'est la vie.
October 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 AM ^
They're both listed, generously, at 6'0. If there's more than half an inch between them, I'd be surprised. Vick has a larger build, though he was a little smaller in college and mostly put on weight before his (redshirt) sophomore season and his first NFL seasons. If Denard can add 15-25 lbs. in the next couple of years, he'll be a near-Vick doppelgänger.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:48 PM ^
Seeing Martin's name up there freaks me out. Let's hope that doesn't happen in the 2011 draft. I could see him going even earlier than that if he sticks around a year and plays on a defense that doesn't get so much bad publicity.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 PM ^
A lockout will most certainly keep him in Ann Arbor.
October 23rd, 2010 at 8:55 AM ^
Mike, if you are reading this, think D Warren. You will not get drafted at all next year, so just stay the course and finish your college career. Anyone who tells you differently is a ruhtard so don't listen to them. Listen to me. You are not strong enough for the NFL yet. Don't leave school untill you can successfully bench a Winnabego and crush an empty beer keg (not a can) on your forehead. Trust me. I am wise and know what I am talking about. NFL scouts and analysts are all ruhtards. Toss them aside like they are Justin Boren and don't look back. I'm glad we had this little talk.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:49 PM ^
No offense to Tate, but how do u suspect he will get drafted?
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^
and won't go drafted.
I wonder if the OP's Tate projection is reflective of a transfer.
Tate is starting QB material. I don't hold it against players that transfer inbetween seasons for reasons that are clearly in their self-interest. (Pouting at the end of the first game didn't do anything for Tate. But he got over it.)
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:50 PM ^
Tate won't be drafted because of his size, plain and simple. Nothing against his talent or abilities but he is to small to play in the NFL. There is a chance he gets picked up in FA, but I doubt it.
Molk may be a 2nd rounder but hard to tell.
Koger I think may go in the 3-5th rounds because of his size and ability to make great catches.
Stonum going in the 3rd is a little high but who knows.
Not a bad speculation but you never know how the NFL draft goes. It comes down to what teams draft where and what they need.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:55 PM ^
I resemble that remark.
signed: Doug Flutie
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:00 PM ^
Ah my bad Mr. Flutie, you make a good point. Although, I still don't see Tate getting drafted or even playing in the NFL. Again, I love Tate at QB for us as much as the next guy (yet I still would rather have Denard in there because of his ability to get a home run either running or throwing), but I just don't see it happening.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 PM ^
I think Drew Brees has some poundage on Tate.
Brees: 6-0, 209 lbs.
Tate: Generous 6-1, 190 lbs.
Not too much, but again, I think Tate's are generous and Brees' accurate.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 PM ^
have some poundage on him, but he's also a lot older. Tate could beef up and be that big in a couple years.
October 23rd, 2010 at 10:59 AM ^
No offense to Tate, but hand picking Drew Brees, a probably top 3 QB in the league, against a guy that isn't starting on a college football team doesn't really make sense.
October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 PM ^
reason I mentioned Brees is because the other guy said that Tate's not going to succeed in the NFL because of his size. I just wanted to point out that smaller quarterbacks can actually have success. Now, how Tate is going to actually perform in the NFL is unknown, but the fact that he is small won't be the deciding factor.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 PM ^
Look for me on TV playing QB at the pro bowl ;)
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:05 PM ^
is about average and he can't stay in the pocket to let the play develop.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:12 PM ^
For some reason, I see Tate having a long, successful CFL career. Three down football seems well suited for his crazy style.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:47 PM ^
As much as I love to see Molk up there, he's spent a lot of time rehabbing significant injuries and is deemed slightly undersized. No doubt he has the talent, but he's going to have to put together one complete, injury free season before being considered in the second round.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:53 PM ^
Molk and Martin will be going 1 and 2 in no particular order.
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:54 PM ^
Late first round... ohhh wait... fuck
we are only talking about people who are on the team... not should be... my bad...
That wound still pains my soul on Saturdays...
October 22nd, 2010 at 4:59 PM ^
haha...sob
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 PM ^
Martin - Early 2nd
Van Bergen - 6th round
Roh - 3th round
Mouton - 5th round (by the raiders)
Denard - 5th (as a WR)
Tate - Undrafted but definitely will get a tryout and will get signed
Stonum - 2rd
Lewan - 1st
Schilling - 5th
Molk - 4th
Omameh - 2nd
Koger - 7th
Added:
Shaw - 3rd
Hemmingway - 4th
I also thing that Ezeh would've been drafted had he not been benched. Everyone else was high on him for some reason.
EDIT: removed things like 5rd because I'm a Trd.
October 24th, 2010 at 2:58 AM ^
Wait, you really think Shaw is a 3rd round back? Lol. Carlos Brown is Shaw-but-better and went undrafted. C'mon.
October 25th, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^
Yes I do. Carlos was too hurt to put together a serious body of work to evaluate. I think Shaw, given his status as a starter before his senior year, has an opportunity to do just that. He's also got over 5 yards/ carry for his college career, and is a better receiver as well.
October 24th, 2010 at 3:06 AM ^
I think Mouton to the Raiders is the most likely pick on there. He would be a perfect fit. Drafted based purely on athleticism.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:20 PM ^
Hagerup 5th
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:24 PM ^
Absolutely, good call.
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:24 PM ^
I thought you were asking who was going to get drafted this year and I thought to myself, "We have seniors on this team?"
October 22nd, 2010 at 5:39 PM ^
I don't want to speculate on every single player, but two guys I think are being underrated here I'll talk about.
I can see Mike Martin and Craig Roh both going first round. Main reason being is they both fit in very well on a 3-4 D(DE for Martin, Rush OLB for Roh) which is becoming more and more popular in the NFL. Martin's upside, IMO, is a Richard Seymour type player. That's incredibly valuable as he was one of the main reasons for the Pats being so good for so long, a 3-4 DE that can still disrupt the pass and play the run well. Martin fits that mold perfectly, I think.
Roh is basically playing the 3-4 Rush OLB position already. Unless he spends his last two seasons playing a 4-3 DE after a scheme switch, he'll be very experienced in the role. That will be huge since you see teams picking a 4-3 DE and spending a year or two turning him into a 3-4 rush OLB. Taking a guy with the same skillset but already knows the position will be very enticing to teams.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 PM ^
I think everyone's overly pessimistic on Denard. Antwaan Randle-El went in the second round.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 PM ^
Shilling in the third seems like a real stretch, and I really don't see Forcier as a pro. Denard can go in the third, but he'll need much better touch on his throws.
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<br>Mouton and Martin seem like the only two certain draft picks on the defense right now--and my fandom may be coloring my view on Mouton. Roh has got to either gain some serious weight or become much more comfortable in space to have a chance at a solid NFL career, IMO.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:43 PM ^
There is a LOT of talent on this team. Young though they may be. If the worst case scenario were to happen, random coach would walk into a hell of a team.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 PM ^
Start with the '97 National Champ Wolverines and look at all the NC since then. The NC scene is riddled with coaches fairly new to their school (3 years or less) and won it all. Carr, Tressel, Meyer, Carroll, Saban (twice), Stoops...
That is not to say that I hope RR goes.
October 23rd, 2010 at 4:36 AM ^
Rich Rodriguez is fairly new to his school also, no need for a coaching change scenario.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:48 PM ^
It's hard to go through this exercise because some of these guys will get better before its time for them to even think about the draft.
Unless there is an earlier exit by a guy like Martin, I dont think anyone will get drafted this spring. Maybe Mouton in like the 5-7 round. I dont know why, but I dont see Schilling getting picked. I could see him making a team and earning a paycheck as a pro through the undrafted free agent route.
I have already given up on about half the NFL GM's and brain trusts, I might give up completely if Obi gets picked.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 PM ^
I think we underrate Schilling's pro potential b/c he was 5-star coming in to U of M and while he has turned himself into a good player, he hasn't been dominate and turned himself into an All-American/future 1st rounder.
He's got the size (305 lbs), pedigree (40+ starts in the Big Ten by the time he's done), and no history of injury problems (mono is not a long-term concern, like a knee). He'll probably make 2nd team Big Ten this year.
All that adds up to a drafted player; I'll be shocked if he's not a 4-5th rounder (unless he presses 225 lbs something like 4 times at the combine; I doubt Schilling (let along Barwis) will let that happen).
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 PM ^
He deserves to be drafted. I just dont think he will. I would be surprised if he wasnt earning an NFL paycheck somehow a year from now.
I wonder if other guys on the line will jump off the film, undeservingly downgrading him?
It was more of a prediction than a scouting opinion on my part. The latter would be LOL. I stick to picking games.
October 23rd, 2010 at 7:51 AM ^
From the looks of things, no one may be earning an NFL paycheck a year from now.
October 22nd, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
Gardner is the QB with 1st round potential.
Lewan, Martin, Omameh, Denard (not as a QB) I could see in rounds 1-2.
Molk, Schilling should go in middle rounds and Stonum, Koger, Roh have that potential.
Mouton getting drafted wouldn't shock me, Tate would.
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 PM ^
I honestly think after Denard runs his 40 yard dash time of sub 4.3 he will be drafted at the latest early second. Too many teams will be in awe at his Chris Johnson speed and vision and Al Davis will pull the trigger.
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 PM ^
why is there no love for roy roundtree?
October 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 PM ^
Same reason there wasn't much love for Taylor Stubblefield/John Standerford/any # of random Purdue WRs since Tiller got there? I love Roy, but he doesn't have the high end speed, nor the size, nor the jumping ability, nor the ultra-quick shiftiness to impress the pro scouts, I don't think. With a good combine I could see some team taking a late round flier on him. Hemingway and Stonum are the WRs with the best chance to get drafted, but both will need very good combines to get there, I think.