Bodogblog

April 3rd, 2017 at 1:42 PM ^

I don't remember a lot of spring hype for him last year.  He was highly touted and local, so more are familiar with him and that makes sense.  But last year the spring reaction was muted, with a lot of "he's not quick twitch but he was OK".  Originally the thought was he could add deperately needed edge pass rush that was lacking two years ago and back.  The 2016 hope was some playing time to spell starters and build for a bigger role this year.  That didn't really pan out, but this is a new season.  As a poster says below, he seems like a tweener. 

war-dawg69

April 3rd, 2017 at 5:23 PM ^

If I see video of him moving Mone or Hurst that easily, I would say the run game will be improving. I think Bredeson makes at least all big ten this year. Interested to see how much Ruiz plays this year. Any news on newsome, because if he can play and at the level of last year we are more than set on the o-line IMO.

dragonchild

April 3rd, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^

I'm the furthest thing from a D-line expert, but I can't see anything Marshall did that was glaringly bad.  He did attack a little high, but it's not like he stood up either, and he kept moving his feet but Onwenu mirrored him and stayed square.  He tried to use his hands to disengage but Onwenu drove into him and latched on.  He just got beat.

bacon

April 3rd, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

I thought that too. I was thinking that it's just the power of Onwenu more than the inability of Marshall. I'm not sure that a DE is best matched up with a guy like Onwenu in this drill where lateral speed is pretty much neutralized

dragonchild

April 3rd, 2017 at 3:01 PM ^

DEs tend to have a bad habit of trying to flank linemen to the point of abandoning their run responsibilities for the glory of a TFL or sack.  That basically gives any sort of off tackle run a free lane; sometimes you need to concede defeat and become Boring so your teammates have a fighting chance.

Marshall was at a huge disadvantage by design, so I don't think he was expected to win the rep.  The drill was more to condition him to mitigate the inevitable loss and at least constrain the space.  In really bad reps I've seen guys get pancaked because they tried too hard to fight off the block instead of eating it and making the RB thread a needle.

In that sense he did OK.  Onwenu wound up dominating him giving the RB a truck lane, but Marshall was still on his feet and trying to fight his way back when the ball got by him.  If he eats bench again, this shouldn't be the rep that cost him playing time.

Matte Kudasai

April 3rd, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

He's a tweener apparently.

Not athletic enough to play the edge and too small to play inside.

Then again getting pushed around by Big Mike is nothing to be embarrased about...

Onwenu is special.  Let's hope he comes in around 340 which for him is lean and mean.

Mgobluefan10

April 3rd, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

JBB looked liked he was holding his own against Gary there. Also looked like he was getting a lot of reps next to bredeson as the LT. Good to see hopefully he can utilize his talent finally

antonio_sass

April 3rd, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^

In the last wide shot of the video, looked like a glimpse at the 1's on defense. 

WDE - Winovich

NT - Mone 

3T - Hurst 

SDE - Gary 

LB - McCray 

LB - Wroblewski 

Viper - Hudson 

S - Metellus 

S - Kinnell 

CB - Long 

CB - Watson 

dragonchild

April 3rd, 2017 at 3:08 PM ^

And I don't mean in garbage time, which sometimes was the 2nd quarter.

I think they prefer to roll 8 D-linemen but also at least 3 linebackers for the two ILB spots.  Robo may not start but if he doesn't lose ground by the end of fall the 3rd ILB can still expect to play 30-40% of snaps.