Urban Meyer - Tough Guy
Article on how Urbz is instilling toughness into Ohio players. Tidbits include garden hose refreshments, sprints and worse food for the sissies.
There have only been two Ohio coaches that fanbase didn't eat alive, Hayes and Tressel. Hayes went by Professor Hayes and actually taught. He also got along well with the faculty due to the fact he paid more than lip service to academics. Tressel was know as Senator Tressel due to the way he carried himself.
Lavendar uniforms, drinking from the hose, that kind of persona isn't going to go over well. At Ohio State you are hired to be the next coming of Professor Hayes, not what Urban is doing. This kind of persona will be tolerated as long as he is winning, but the minute he loses they'll come for him. Look at Cooper, won over 80% of his games but lost to Michigan and didn't act the way the fans wanted and they ran his ass out of town on a rail.
that I don't think anything in that article is contrary to how any or most Ohio fans feel is a good way to coach. Hell if it wasn't him and you replaced Meyer with "Hoke" in the article, I would have no problem whatsoever with it myself.
WTF is it with this whole lavender uniforms and drinking god damned water to demonstrated "softness" with players. How evolved Urb. You treat players with respect and they come to you. That and money (as Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel, Gene Chizik, Nick Saban and a slew of Miami coaches might report).
So.......he's coaching football? I don't see anyting I didn't expect, or anything terribly different from everywhere else, including here.
With an attitude like that, no wonder he has stress problems. His blood pressure must be through the roof.
Their fans are buying into the toughness. Buck I Guy was just playing chicken with a vulture just this week!! Straight bad ass homey.
I hate Urban Meyer but Buckeyes should be drinking out of hoses anyway.
in a fraternity they would call that hazing.
Thats really mild for hazing. we had to do lots worse.
Whatever Urbz, whatever.
"NOT THE GARDEN HOSEEEEEE!"
March 28th, 2012 at 10:05 PM ^
If we won in HS, we got to drink from the garden hose.
More important question:
Is he bringing sexy back to Ohio as well?
This image is incredibly disturbing!
Hope they have the garden hose ready when Hoke and the guys come to Columbus
Maybe Nike can design some nice lavender uniforms for the whole team when Hoke & Co. pay a visit.
Like Roger Alan Wade said, "If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."
Anyone who doesn't make their windsprint time has to eat 50 eggs.
Urban . . . Like Luke without any of the cool.
This is no different than my Jr. High School. Except we could not even drink from the hose, we had to wait until practice was over.
We only won 1 game, for what it's worth. So much for the magic "toughness" pill that turns everything into a victory.
This guy is really changing things in Columbus. He reminds me of Crazy Joe Clark from Lean on Me. Real hard ass that Meyer guy.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:05 PM ^
March 28th, 2012 at 10:09 PM ^
I don't think Meyer is changing the tide in the rivalry. Selling Ohio jerseys in Ohio doesn't seem like a good start.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:04 PM ^
I always thought that Ohio had some really weak players. Them losing all those games because they weren't tough enough was what got their last coach fired. Oh...wait.
On the less taunting side, do remember, we have "winners" and "losers" after each practice. And the losers have a punishment as well.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:13 PM ^
True but as others have stated Urbz just seems so contrived. I mean a bonus and a trip to Cancun are 'goals' for hard workers? The guy just comes across as a major douche.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
We do have losers with punishments for them, but do we have rewards for the winners, i.e. real food that a football player would need rather than oatmeal? Seems to me Hoke keeps the punishments on the field, and the reward for winning is pride and playing time. Obviously I'm biased but I like those rewards a lot better than steak and getting to live off campus. Intrinsic rewards are always better than extrinsic rewards if you really want to motivate people. There have been a million and one studies on this. I actually just watched a TED talk about it that was really interesting and I would recommend if I could remember the guy's name. I could see guys getting pretty resentful if they're continuously the loser wearing a lavender jersey (although I think that's a pretty weak punishment to begin with), and having crappy meals. Those things would just be embarrassing and make a guy angry, whereas physical labor has a direct impact on making him better. Hoke for the win. We'll see who has it right in November I suppose.
Don't the winners of the spring game still get steaks? And the losers get hot dogs and hamburgers? Are we not considering that because it's not practice?
Fair enough. That's why I asked if we did anything like that. But I do think that doing it for one spring game is different than every practice. My point about it getting embarrassing to always be eating oatmeal and getting sick of it still stands. Also I love hot dogs and hamburgers. Oatmeal makes me sick.
We're not considering that because that's a one time thing. Not every day in practice. If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.
Sometimes recognizing that "your" team is doing it better than another team is because of the fact that "your" team is doing it better. Calling a spade a spade is not always blind homerism.
Well I was replying to someone that was basically asking if Michigan had a tangible reward for winning. Which they do, for the spring game. Just because it's different from giving out random rewards during practice doesn't take away from the fact that it does exist somewhere.
I prefer burgers to steaks at BBQs, so it's not much of a punishment to me.
March 29th, 2012 at 10:19 AM ^
on the burger>steak.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
EDIT: NOOOOO Quadrupal post!! I swear I got a service unavailable message every time! I'm ashamed
March 28th, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
We do have losers with punishments for them, but do we have rewards for the winners, i.e. real food that a football player would need rather than oatmeal? Seems to me Hoke keeps the punishments on the field, and the reward for winning is pride and playing time. Obviously I'm biased but I like those rewards a lot better than steak and getting to live off campus. Intrinsic rewards are always better than extrinsic rewards if you really want to motivate people. There have been a million and one studies on this. I actually just watched a TED talk about it that was really interesting and I would recommend if I could remember the guy's name. I could see guys getting pretty resentful if they're continuously the loser wearing a lavender jersey (although I think that's a pretty weak punishment to begin with), and having crappy meals. Those things would just be embarrassing and make a guy angry, whereas physical labor has a direct impact on making him better. Hoke for the win. We'll see who has it right in November I suppose.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
We do have losers with punishments for them, but do we have rewards for the winners, i.e. real food that a football player would need rather than oatmeal? Seems to me Hoke keeps the punishments on the field, and the reward for winning is pride and playing time. Obviously I'm biased but I like those rewards a lot better than steak and getting to live off campus. Intrinsic rewards are always better than extrinsic rewards if you really want to motivate people. There have been a million and one studies on this. I actually just watched a TED talk about it that was really interesting and I would recommend if I could remember the guy's name. I could see guys getting pretty resentful if they're continuously the loser wearing a lavender jersey (although I think that's a pretty weak punishment to begin with), and having crappy meals. Those things would just be embarrassing and make a guy angry, whereas physical labor has a direct impact on making him better. Hoke for the win. We'll see who has it right in November I suppose.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:06 PM ^
You can't have any bagel spreads.
March 28th, 2012 at 10:51 PM ^
I'm so tired of reading about Meyer as if he is some revolutionary. Do people really think that all Big Ten coaches don't push their players to the brink? Is toughness some patented Meyer idea? Were his mentors the only ones to teach hard work? Give me a break. Meyer just talks louder than the rest, and idiotic journalists listen.
March 29th, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^
everyone in the SEC knows the entire B1G sits around in their PJs eating pizzas and watching movies
/s
GO BLUE!!!!
March 29th, 2012 at 10:56 AM ^
Anyone want to be a prick?
Do some digging a find out if they're drinking water from a filtered water spicket.
Also, the garden hose? It MUST be clear per NCAA Sports Medicine code. If it's green, it's a violation. Can't see particles floating through a green hose.
I'm absolutely not lying...I work in college athletics, Facilities & Operations and literally just bought 10 clear garden hoses for our Sports Medicine department last month.
His silly little story/motivation tactics could be over if someone really cared enough. #justsayin
March 29th, 2012 at 10:29 PM ^
Wow, a rare and legitimate use of the "Informative" Moderate button.
I don't think there's anything wrong with giving players incentives to work harder. He's not depriving them of food, water, etc.
If people would take off their "I hate OSU and Urban Meyer" blinders off, this really is not an issue.
He's trying to motivate his players. Everyone has a different approach - we'll find out in a few months how successful it is.
If everything at OSU is incentive-based now, what will the players get after a win? and better yet can we get Mark Hollis to tweet this article to the NCAA people?