Urban Meyer is a straight out liar - evidence showing Circle of Trust existed at Florida

While I don't doubt that Meyer's at least a little shady.... c'mon, it's SportsbyBrooks, so.... yeah.

Still, the Circle of Trust will dovetail nicely with the Sacred Brotherhood already in place at tOSU.

Meh.  Kind of weak if you ask me.  Meyer is by no means infallible, but this doesn't really ding him" that bad.  I also agree that there seems to be blood in the water, making the comparison to Rich Rodriguez at Michigan pretty much on.  Rodriguez made enemies with enough folks that it caused him more problems than a head coach has time to deal with.  You want your coach focused on everything important to winning games, not mired in defending himself half the time he is awake.

If Ohio State stumbles early (which is a good possibility when transitioning offenses) I'd be willing to bet that the heat gets dialed up a little more.  Winning games makes the noise a little more quiet, so it will be interesting to see how they come out this year.

The author of the original article, Matt Hayes, is based in Florida and is a known Gator fan.  When Urban was at Florida he wrote multiple articles praising him, but the moment Urban walks away he sours.

While I don't doubt that they may be a little truth in his claims (I feel like every coach gives their star players a little extra attention than the benchwarmers), it can easily be argued that Matt Hayes is simply using his position as a journalist to vent his personal frustrations towards Coach Meyer. It is not hard to sensationalize a story of this nature in order to grab more readers' attention.

Meh.

I don't think the "Circle of Trust" is a big deal. IMO these are the top two "deals":

1. The story confirmed multiple sources of shady dealings with players. Who cares if some players were treated better, but the fake injuries and limited punishment for players (again, who cares if some were treated better) are concerning.

2. A story this small got a heck of a lot of clicks. This means that there will be more and more reporters interviewing past Gators and continue to bring Urban's perceived character down. This hurts recruiting. Not much, however, since I think many of the recruits Urban gets are star-gazed at his rings.

Based on his/their track record, it's safe to conclude that if Sports By Brooks wrote the "Circle of Trust" existed, then that is incontrovertible evidence that said Circle of Trust never existed.

w/e. The article was way overblown and could have been 400 words to mention the circle of trust, while they treated it like a major scandal with the author ready to do the talk show circuits.

all I can think of is a bunch of over weight Flordia coaches in an elephant walk.

The folks in Florida seem to have taken the article to heart.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2012/04/urban-meyer-gators-ohio-state-allegations.html

What is the big deal here?  What exactly is contraversial?

Is the 'circle of trust' thing wrong in some way?

Or are people getting on him for denying it existed?

How is this news?

Who cares?

I can't believe how much enmity there apparently is for Meyer at UF.  He won two national titles there and did not leave for another school, but to get out of coaching (temporarily, at least). 

Did they hate him this much when he first left, or was it just when he took the OSU job that he became persona non grata?

The first rule of the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust: You don't talk about the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust.

If you dispute anything in this story because you think Meyer is probably straight, it's time to get a cat scan.  The OP is correct that he is "perfect for Ohio".  Down there in the bowels of Ohio, they simply don't care about pesky issues like ethics and integrity.  ALL they care about is beating Michigan and winning football games.  That will ALWAYS be the difference between Michigan and TSIO.  

I thought we were in the trust tree.

for truthiness. 

This is actually quite awesome. In the new world of social media Urban's lies are much more likely to become exposed and backfire than when he was at FL. There is a reasonable chance we could witness a total meltdown in Ohio over the next couple of years.

FL kids won't want to go to Ohio now that he's bashing Florida...a situation he created.

All the new lies are now quickly exposed.   E.g. the sign about Ohio's better education than the school up north was quickly exposed.

All the recruits see this stuff and so do the parents.

A great example was when he told both Treadwell and Foster that they were both #1. Treadwell actually DM'd Foster on Twitter to compare notes. I doubt either is really interested in Ohio at this point.

Last year he was able to quickly pick up a few recruits before the stories started coming out. But, look at all the recruiting battles they've lost to PSU, ND and UM this year. That shouldn't happen. His reputation may be quickly catching up with him.

The implosion may not happen...especially if he can put together a couple good seasons to start. "Winning is the best deodorant (John Madden)." But we could witness a supernova down in Ohio.

Somewhat OT, but I thought it too hilarious not to relay. Today, whilst in the middle of defending Meyer, the guys on 97.1 in Columbus actually brought up how ticked people are going to be with Tress if/when this year's Buckeye team goes undefeated and can't even go to a bowl, let alone the NCG. They are already that far along in the Urban ass-kissing. These are the same guys that trashed him like no one else while he was at Florida. I can't wait for them to have their own version of "The Horror" so that I can just take it all in with a front-row seat...

If anyone is still reading this thread, what is the whole deal with the circle of trust to begin with?  I missed the start of this story entirely so is it just that certain players were more 'trusted' than others?  I.e. team leaders, big playmakers, etc?  Special players get special treatment?  I guess I'm trying to figure out why I'm supposed to be outraged. 

http://youtu.be/d-gnfSzxeB4