I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
I don't think the "Circle of Trust" is a big deal. IMO these are the top two "deals":
1. The story confirmed multiple sources of shady dealings with players. Who cares if some players were treated better, but the fake injuries and limited punishment for players (again, who cares if some were treated better) are concerning.
2. A story this small got a heck of a lot of clicks. This means that there will be more and more reporters interviewing past Gators and continue to bring Urban's perceived character down. This hurts recruiting. Not much, however, since I think many of the recruits Urban gets are star-gazed at his rings.
Based on his/their track record, it's safe to conclude that if Sports By Brooks wrote the "Circle of Trust" existed, then that is incontrovertible evidence that said Circle of Trust never existed.
w/e. The article was way overblown and could have been 400 words to mention the circle of trust, while they treated it like a major scandal with the author ready to do the talk show circuits.
all I can think of is a bunch of over weight Flordia coaches in an elephant walk.
The folks in Florida seem to have taken the article to heart.
mad that Muschamp ain't too great of a coach and he hired Charlie friggin' Tuna to run his offense. The fact that they're still blaming this all on Meyer is ridiculous.
What is the big deal here? What exactly is contraversial?
Is the 'circle of trust' thing wrong in some way?
Or are people getting on him for denying it existed?
How is this news?
I can't believe how much enmity there apparently is for Meyer at UF. He won two national titles there and did not leave for another school, but to get out of coaching (temporarily, at least).
Did they hate him this much when he first left, or was it just when he took the OSU job that he became persona non grata?
The first rule of the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust: You don't talk about the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust.
The second rule of the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust: you DO NOT.....TALK....about the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust.
If you dispute anything in this story because you think Meyer is probably straight, it's time to get a cat scan. The OP is correct that he is "perfect for Ohio". Down there in the bowels of Ohio, they simply don't care about pesky issues like ethics and integrity. ALL they care about is beating Michigan and winning football games. That will ALWAYS be the difference between Michigan and TSIO.
I thought we were in the trust tree.
Treadwell is warming up to OSu and their spread system. Reminds me of the Dunn recruitment in a way. This kid is tailor made for the Michigan offense. Makes no sense to go to OSu...yet it seems it will be a battle.
See my Supernova post about Foster and Treadwell comparing notes. I think they are both down on Ohio. It just that Treadwell is a savvy PR man and Foster is not. Clearly Foster was not excited about getting up early to haul his but out to Ohio. Ohio may have only cooled on Foster because he cooled on them. But If your read Treadwell's comments about each of his visits they were all great. For Ohio, i think his most positive comment was that their stock went up and that it was cool to meet Urban. You have to read his visit comments betwen the lines to see which schools he really likes.
...and of course elevenwarriors bloggers are always delusional.
That was my initial impression about foster, except then Foster tweeted an apology to Ohio State and Brian and others pointed out that Foster isn't being recruited by any of the other regional powers.
This is actually quite awesome. In the new world of social media Urban's lies are much more likely to become exposed and backfire than when he was at FL. There is a reasonable chance we could witness a total meltdown in Ohio over the next couple of years.
FL kids won't want to go to Ohio now that he's bashing Florida...a situation he created.
All the new lies are now quickly exposed. E.g. the sign about Ohio's better education than the school up north was quickly exposed.
All the recruits see this stuff and so do the parents.
A great example was when he told both Treadwell and Foster that they were both #1. Treadwell actually DM'd Foster on Twitter to compare notes. I doubt either is really interested in Ohio at this point.
Last year he was able to quickly pick up a few recruits before the stories started coming out. But, look at all the recruiting battles they've lost to PSU, ND and UM this year. That shouldn't happen. His reputation may be quickly catching up with him.
The implosion may not happen...especially if he can put together a couple good seasons to start. "Winning is the best deodorant (John Madden)." But we could witness a supernova down in Ohio.
Somewhat OT, but I thought it too hilarious not to relay. Today, whilst in the middle of defending Meyer, the guys on 97.1 in Columbus actually brought up how ticked people are going to be with Tress if/when this year's Buckeye team goes undefeated and can't even go to a bowl, let alone the NCG. They are already that far along in the Urban ass-kissing. These are the same guys that trashed him like no one else while he was at Florida. I can't wait for them to have their own version of "The Horror" so that I can just take it all in with a front-row seat...
Should die of gonnorhea and rot in hell.
Would you like a cookie?
If anyone is still reading this thread, what is the whole deal with the circle of trust to begin with? I missed the start of this story entirely so is it just that certain players were more 'trusted' than others? I.e. team leaders, big playmakers, etc? Special players get special treatment? I guess I'm trying to figure out why I'm supposed to be outraged.
SN came out with an expose of Meyer at Florida late last week.
Ironically, Florida’s downfall began at the height of Meyer’s success—the 2008 national championship season. Three seasons of enabling and pandering to elite players—what Meyer’s players called his “Circle of Trust”—began to tear away at what he’d put together.
“I’ve never heard of Circle of Trust before in my life,” Meyer said.
Former players, though, contend it was the foundation of Florida’s culture under Meyer. In the season opener against Hawaii, Meyer said a few elite players (including wideout Percy Harvin, linebacker Brandon Spikes and tight end Aaron Hernandez) would miss the game with injuries. According to multiple sources, the three players—all critical factors in Florida’s rise under Meyer—failed drug tests for marijuana and were sitting out as part of standard university punishment.
By publicly stating the three were injured and not being disciplined, former players say, Meyer was creating a divide between the haves and have-nots on the team.