Vasav

August 19th, 2022 at 4:53 PM ^

This makes me more likely to tune into Gameday before switching over at noon. Granted, I have a kid so I usually don't watch the pregame show. But while I loved Woodson last year, I'm not going to tune into Urban's nonsense.

Probably the 2nd best CFB coach of the last 20 years, but he does not deserve to be on camera.

Leaders And Best

August 19th, 2022 at 6:58 PM ^

The best? I would love to hear your argument on that one. No one is close to Saban for #1. Saban might have a case for best all-time.

There have been 8 College Football Playoffs so far starting in 2014. Saban has qualified for all but one, reached the Championship Game in 6 of the 8, and won 3 CFP titles. Alabama and Saban have 9 CFP wins (6 SF wins and 3 CFP Final wins). The rest of the college football combined has 15 CFP wins and 5 titles. If you subtract Clemson and Dabo's 6 wins and 2 championships, Saban has as many CFP wins and championships as the field minus Clemson. That means Saban has as many CFP wins and championships as Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Michigan, and FSU combined (could even throw USC, Florida, and Texas in here but they haven't made a CFP yet).

Saban won 4 BCS National Championships (3 at Alabama and 1 at LSU), the most all-time, and went undefeated 4-0 in BCS Championship Games.

Saban is the best coach in both the CFP era and the BCS era. Among coaches with over 200 career wins, only Tom Osborne has a better career winning percentage. Meyer has a better career winning percentage but has coached far fewer games. Not sure how you can make a case for anyone else as #1.

 

MgofanNC

August 19th, 2022 at 8:11 PM ^

Yeah, Saban is, I think pretty clearly number 1. The only argument I think you could make for Urbs is he took Florida, and OSU from very good to elite and dramatically improved the Utes and took Bowling Green from like 2-9 to MAC champs in his first year. I would also say that he was ahead of the curve with his QB Option focused offenses that has now taken over much of the CFB landscape. 

If you look at Saban at MSU, you can say he improved Sparty but not in the same way Urban has more or less instantly turned around every team he's taken over (in college). 

I fucking hate Urban Meyer (even before OSU), so it pains me to give him any props whatsoever, but his accomplishments speak for themselves. I wouldn't put him above or even particularly close to Saban, but if someone wanted to have that argument I think that is probably the only place they could reasonably make a case. 

Leaders And Best

August 19th, 2022 at 10:36 PM ^

Urban has never had a job as tough as Saban's MSU job in the late 1990s when the Big Ten was especially loaded. Urban has always taken a job at a program that was usually or already a power in their conference. And the OSU program Tressel left behind was already the best and most talented program in the Big Ten as Tressel was not fired for performance reasons.  Ron Zook left the Florida in decent shape as well--a top 25 team for the three years he was there.

Add in that Urban's best years were in the years when Saban left the SEC for the NFL. Saban took the Alabama job, and within 2 years, his program had surpassed Urban's. Urban then retired for "medical reasons."

njvictor

August 19th, 2022 at 5:05 PM ^

The fact this man continues to be employed is insane. The lying, the crime enabling, the abuse enabling, the cheating on his wife, the player abuse, etc, etc. 

No matter how bad of a person he continues to prove he is, he continues to get jobs

LSAClassOf2000

August 19th, 2022 at 5:28 PM ^

If there is any justice, each time he is on screen, a shirtless man will wander onto the set and start looking for a beer. Fox Sports should also give him a commentary segment - "Urban Grinds It Out".

Sopwith

August 19th, 2022 at 5:40 PM ^

To be honest, I think he's an excellent analyst.  Wouldn't recommend anyone get married to him but he knows his X's and O's better than basically anyone.

BTB grad

August 19th, 2022 at 6:32 PM ^

It’ll be a bit awkward when they bring on Charles Woodson as a guest for the Michigan Big Noon games. Woodson seemed like he was ready to swing and fight Urban back on the 2019 big noon UM-OSU show and that’s before his Jax stint or the result of the 2021 game

https://youtu.be/TfJuhrBd5x0

BlockM

August 19th, 2022 at 6:51 PM ^

Must be nice to be an absolute shithead with one skill that people will overlook all your dumbfuckery and lying for. 

There's really no one else that can talk about football?

Bo Harbaugh

August 21st, 2022 at 3:07 PM ^

Everyone really good at breaking down film, assessing overall talent, and translating complex schemes into simple football tactics is employed as a a coach on some level.  The rest of the commentators are generally ex-players with solid football knowledge or the rare gem like Joel Klatt.

Urban is too big a scumbag, narcissist and liar to hold down a head coaching job for long without creating ridiculous collateral damage…so we essentially get a brilliant coaching mind in his prime breaking down football as an analyst because he’s too big a pos to be employed as a coach.

He’s a brilliant analyst and was great on Fox before… but not sure I’ll be able to listen to him without thinking came in Nebraska or Kicked a player this time around.

Perkis-Size Me

August 19th, 2022 at 7:12 PM ^

He’s a POS but he knows the game. 

I don’t watch enough Big Noon Saturday pregame shows to know if they allow signs, but if they do, my god will the signs be guh-lorious.