TheCube

April 6th, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^

Turns out downplaying the severity of the virus and then going out of your way to shake hands in public when you have comorbidities like obesity isn’t smart. Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. Boris. 

Special Agent Utah

April 6th, 2020 at 8:14 PM ^

He didn’t downplay it to the same extent a lot of the leaders in the US have, but he damn sure didn’t initially take it as seriously as medical experts were saying it needed to be. 

Yeah, he came correct fairly quickly, but not before making some colossally dumb decisions that may very well cost him his life. 

Biology has no mercy for those who choose underestimate its threats. 

LDNfan

April 7th, 2020 at 1:49 AM ^

And the lives of others too...many more others.

The thing is, as bad and he was in those initial critical days, his  turnaround was pretty swift and dramatic and far more direct that anything seen on the other side of the Atlantic. Too many political games being played in those early critical days and for that we all suffer to varying extent some with death.

Side note, as someone with life-long asthma (mild) and one very scary bout of Pneumonia as an adult this thing has been on my mind since the first reports out of China. There is nothing in my life-time that comes close to comparing to the sense of not being able to breath and not knowing if it would actually get better. Scary as hell.  So, I truly feel for everyone that is going through this...directly,  those close to them and those many who are caring for them (and at risk). Scary, awful, dreadful scenario.  

Michigan Arrogance

April 6th, 2020 at 5:50 PM ^

not a good sign. Apparently in the UK, to this point ICU COVID admits have had a 50/50 chance of survival.

I'm sure it's better odds than that as they won't take any risks and act with an over abundance of caution and he has no other health issues (other than being about 60 and decently overweight?).

ppToilet

April 6th, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^

This is the key point. As others have said, this virus doesn't care who you are. If he's going to the ICU, he must be desaturating and as these patients tend to decompensate quickly, it would not be surprising to wake up tomorrow and learn that he is on a ventilator. I'd be astounded if they hadn't put him on hydroxychloroquine as soon as he was diagnosed and they're probably giving him remdesivir or anything else they can get their hands on.

Certainly an ominous sign and, just as with all victims of this virus, I hope he recovers.

jmblue

April 6th, 2020 at 7:36 PM ^

Aside from that I hope he makes it through ... it’s interesting how these countries with no written constitution just kind of wing it a lot of times.  From the article apparently the foreign secretary will be filling in for him (which I assume is like the Secretary of State over here) but there is no official protocol about that, so it could have been someone else. I figured the UK would have like a “second minister” or something but evidently not.

 Can you imagine if we had no official constitutional successor to the President? 

I'mTheStig

April 6th, 2020 at 9:16 PM ^

 Can you imagine if we had no official constitutional successor to the President? 

Comparing that to a parliamentary system of government is like apples and oranges.

In the US, votes are cast directly for the President.

In the UK one does NOT vote for the Prime Minister.

Moreover, the Prime Minister doesn't even have to be the most popular person in the party or the one who got the most votes in their own election -- the PM is simply the MP who was nominated by the party with the most seats in parliament.

To suggest there is no succession in the UK is irresponsible too. If something happens to the PM, it's the next MP up.  The country isn't going to fall apart if something happens to Johnson.  There will be continuity of government.

jmblue

April 6th, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^

I know how parliamentary systems are different than presidential.  I know his party has the majority and all that.  
 

But what I mean is, there is no actual “next MP up” by protocol.  I would have expected the UK to have some developed some kind of designated second-in-command just in case but apparently there is not.  Any MP could replace him.  That’s really strange to me.

I'mTheStig

April 6th, 2020 at 11:46 PM ^

Thank you Mr/s Pedantic.

 We vote for electors who will vote for the President 

I anticipated someone like you saying that so what's why I phrased it as "votes are cast directly for the President"... I didn't say who did or what votes (the constituents or the representatives) are cast.  Reading is fundamental.  The purpose of the statement still applies through your chaff -- in the US the chief executive is directly voted for whereas in the Britain it is not.

It's also interesting you found it necessary to correct my simple explanation while introducing a concept which doesn't exist. 

There's no such thing as "popular vote" (meaning the aggregate of all the states).  I suggest you go read Federalist 68 to educate yourself why.

sharklover

April 7th, 2020 at 2:16 AM ^

No such thing as a popular vote? Come now. People have been paying attention to the nationwide vote tally for decades. It's not a new concept. The constitution of the United States does not include the term, as such. But it is a term and concept that is understood much more easily than the electoral college. Popular vote is how senators and governors are elected in the several states that compose the United States. Hamilton's reasoning of why an electoral college is needed is arcane and tailored to appeal to imaginations of a people whose experiences and positions in life were very different from modern day Americans, and who were only recently released from the tyranny of a distant ruler. Furthermore, the electoral college no longer serves the purpose for which Hamilton argued that it was needed. It is not a deliberative body that makes decisions on behalf of the people. The electors simply serve as a rubber stamp to carry out the will that is expressed by the popular vote of each individual state. I daresay, you should go read Federalist 68.

I'mTheStig

April 7th, 2020 at 11:37 AM ^

But it is a term and concept that is understood much more easily than the electoral college.

The electoral college is pretty simple.  Just because you haven't taken the time to understand it doesn't mean there is a problem with it.   Like 25dodgebross, I'm guessing you haven't done the research.

Popular vote is how senators and governors are elected in the several states that compose the United States

Okay, then going back to 25dodgebross' need to correct me, and now yours, Trump won 30 popular votes then.

Hamilton's reasoning of why an electoral college is needed is arcane and tailored to appeal to imaginations of a people whose experiences and positions in life were very different from modern day Americans

Absolutely not.  The electoral college exists because even in back 18th century the Framers imagined that there would be disparity among the size of states and wanted a representative way to elect the President.  

If this country elected the President on popular vote today, 2 states would set the tone for the other 48.  You're making up your own interpretations about what the document says, but it's clear the Framers and wanted a mechanism to prevent one state from overpowering another and that isn't only in 68 but other Papers as well. 

Sorry, but you're going to have to come up with something better than that contemporary socialist spin of yours.

Perkis-Size Me

April 6th, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^

Viruses do not discriminate. You can be young, old black, white, rich, poor, that shit is still coming after you.

As some are coming to learn, you can’t tweet this virus away. You can’t bully or bullshit this thing into submission.