Tempo?
Much was made about the D's lack of ability to stop the run in Bloomington and lack of depth on the DL and IU's tempo were given as the most likely reasons why. I do not disagree.
However. going forward most seem to think that PSU's offense is a different animal with an inferior OL to Indiana and that OSU runs a spread, but at a slower pace (though they include a mobile QB).
My question to those of you on the board is this: How easy is it for a team to install a game plan that includes more tempo on a regular basis? If I were Franklin and PSU, after watching the film of UM in Bloomington, I'd try the exact same game plan to exploit UM in the same way Indiana did (minus the missed holding calls of course).
PSU is coming off of a bye week (not always a good thing) but have had plenty of time to game plan for Michigan.
How likely is it that we see PSU (and possibly OSU) go up tempo against our D in the next two weeks?
Am I worried about nothing?
Football experts help me out here.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:22 AM ^
Don't give Franklin any ideas.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^
I bet Franklin didn't notice it on his own, since he probably only had UM-IU on in the background while he focused most of his attention on scanning MGoBlog for ideas on how to beat Michigan.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
Way to take my comment literally. I was joking, bro. Relax.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^
Relaxed LJ is not as much fun.
Also, I prefer brah, not bro.
November 17th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
He was obviously joking. Every thread has that ONE guy. Thanks for fitting the bill.
November 17th, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^
funny.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^
Not very likely. They can try to go up tempo, but the teams that excel at it (e.g., Oregon, Indiana, etc.) live and breathe that insane tempo starting at day 1 of fall camp. It is not just something you can flip the switch on for one game.
November 17th, 2015 at 7:26 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^
expert here. Credentials - I watch a lot of football and I have played catch with my son on at least 2 occassions. I don't think PSU will go up tempo that much because I don't really think it fits their personnel. I think OSU is more likely to tempo us and more equiped to do it. It would also not surprise me if Harbaugh does it to Penn State now that it would appear that we are on the defensive. It would be an unexpected move and could possibly puzzle them if they intended to try to tempo us. He likes to mess with people some times I have noticed.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
...but did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night???
November 17th, 2015 at 11:33 AM ^
beat me by 30 seconds!
November 17th, 2015 at 12:18 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 12:28 PM ^
I disagree it was all about tempo, too. However, you can't just blame scheme, either. It's not like scheme is locked in at the beginning of the game and you can't change it. If players can't get off blocks, who cares the scheme...or the tempo...
November 17th, 2015 at 11:34 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:38 AM ^
Harbaugh told me all the strategy around this but I can't tell you. If I tell you, you would then tell someone else and then PSU and OSU might find out. Why would I tell you this info? I think Harbaugh and I will just keep it to ourselves.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:39 AM ^
I, for one, would love to see PSU go up-tempo. If they try to install that in one week, I imagine there would be a slew of mistakes - false starts, missed blocking assignments, wrong routes. All they would do is expose their own lack of defensive depth by giving the ball back to Michigan quickly.
OSU, on the other hand, is fully capable of going up-tempo, though maybe not to the degree that Indiana does it. I fully believe they'll use a similar gameplan, and they're better than Indiana pretty much everywhere on offense. That game could be bad news if Harbaugh and company don't figure out something to paper over the depth issue, and fast.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
I think OSU needs to be careful with tempo, though. Jacoby Boren is a starting lineman. I heard that when you start making linemen pick up the pace and run more, the program starts to lose family values...
November 17th, 2015 at 12:35 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 2:11 PM ^
I am 98% sure there are no more. I lived in Pickerington for a couple years, and I saw their family business "dumptrucks" many times, complete with the identical color scheme of the OSU helmets.
November 17th, 2015 at 4:24 PM ^
I believe there are a few more Bulloughs coming down the pipeline.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
besides tempo was IU completely controlled the first quarter. UM's defense was on the field for 12 of the first 15 minutes. Indiana ran something like 40 offensive plays in the first quarter!! In most games, 40 plays is going to account for anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3's of the total plays an offense will run.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^
you must just be talking about number of plays/timt of possesion, because at the end of the 1st quater it was 7-6 Michigan.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
Michigan's offense ran 7 plays in the first quarter. IU's offense ran 37. While the score might have been 7-6 UM, UM's defense had already logged a massive amount of plays by the end of the first quarter.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:18 PM ^
The D did their job early on by holding them to FGs. We were hurt by not being able to run the ball consistently and keeping Indiana's offense off the field. In the 2nd half it was obvious our defense was gassed.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:45 AM ^
what they have installed well, first, without taking on additional strategies. I am looking forward to that clown Franklin getting Harbaughed.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
installing something over 1-2 weeks or adding more of your teams existing uptempo sets to the game plan differ greatly from "tempo teams" and teams that rep it 12 months a year. indiana, baylor, oregon, etc install those systems as their base on first day of camp or spring ball and then focus on developing and building upon that system every day throughout the fall - their recruiting, personnel, culture, calls, etc all based on philosophy of playing at faster pace. totally different than spending a few weeks installing or expanding on exisitng uptempo sets. and it typically shows during games
November 17th, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^
That is like asking if UM could go up tempo last year in week 11. PSU is just trying to do things correctly on offense at a slow tempo. And they fail a lot.
OSU I am sure is going to try to mimic all the things Indiana succeeded at because they have a good coaching staff and players who you know... are good at football.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
Well, Michigan did install the 3-3-5 defense in a week and... What a second, that didn't work. Maybe you can't drastically change the character of your team in a week. Who knew?
November 17th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
than Penn State.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^
how quickly you get to the LOS and snap the ball. Indiana tempos because its part of the way the team runs its offense. You can uptempo any defense by trying to snap the ball before the defense can get properly aligned to force a penalty or take advantage of a matchup or substitution problem at a certain position, which, if Penn State were to do that, would make more sense depending on the situation, down and distance.
Penn State is what it is offensively with the personnel it has to run its game. I don't see adding speedup to its offense as a likely possibility. The reason Indiana was successful is because it executed the plays that it ran.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^
My understanding is going consistently at tempo requires rearranging the team's entire relationship to it's playbook.
They can't have someone running in with the play call, so they replace that with the cards and hand signals system. These aren't as complex, so they have to have fewer, simpler, highly-complementary plays and lineups.
Learning this system is more than a week's work for players, developing it is too much for a coach. Yes, to say nothing of the conditioning, having players who can play this way, etc.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
Tempo is great or it f*cks you. You see teams that have done it for a while really master it and it works. On the other hand a lot of others who just try it quickly end up looking like the eagles to start the year. Meaning their defense is on the field teh entire game and it is 3 and out all day.
It really is high risk high reward in many cases. If PSU tried it I think that woudl be great as it would setup michigan well in my opinion.
Indiana did it with a stud quarterback, top running back, and two legit offensive line NFL prospects. You need players to do insane tempo like they did.
November 17th, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^
Sort of like when Charlie Cankles Weis implemented the spread after the Michigan losses to App State and Oregon and the first snap of the game sailed over Clausen? It would be stupid for PSU to change its O scheme based on the IU game. So dumb. That said, IU is OSU Lite in terms of talent and I'm sure the coaches in scumtown are looking at ways of getting Elliot the ball like IU did Howard.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
The word "nadir" comes to mind.
November 17th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^
I think Meyer's offense is predicated on an ability to have a faster gear and go uptempo, no-huddle should they need to do that, but they don't do it all the time or even most of the time from what I've observed - I will say that I expect OSU to try Indiana-esque things though, mainly because they can. Penn State might try to rush an individual play here and there, but there is no way they try to revamp their entire scheme just for us. Like every team they've played thus far, it will be more about which Hackenburg shows up.
November 17th, 2015 at 5:24 PM ^
Hopefully, we turn him into Crap-enburg.
November 17th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
I'm just happy our Tempo isn't the same as last years.
November 17th, 2015 at 2:10 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^