Supporter of Georgia HS FB powerhouse records HS coach, implicates Alabama and UGa
Headline says it all.
FTA:
"...Propst suggested that the Georgia Bulldogs and Alabama Crimson Tide pay recruits $90,000 to $150,000 to sign with them. Propst also suggested a Georgia booster paid former Bulldogs star running back Nick Chubb a total of $180,000 in three installments to return to the team for his senior season in 2017."
"...Propst tells Nelson that he needs "funny money" to pay for rent for players' families who want to move to Valdosta... During the recording, Propst suggested that when he was coaching at Hoover, the city's police department gave him cash confiscated in drug raids on Interstate 20."
"During that deposition, Nelson told Brent Savage, one of the Rodemakers' attorneys, that Propst sought the Touchdown Club's help in paying $2,500 in monthly rent for four-star quarterback Jake Garcia's family to move from California to Valdosta."
Will Wade laughs at this.
He’s not drawing up sets on offense or teaching defense, so he has time.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:36 AM ^
I don't know about that. The implications of the police dept participating in something like this are so crazy to think about, I can't imagine how far that could reach.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:15 AM ^
/s ?
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^
The interaction with asset forfeiture corruption really is <chef's kiss>. There really is a nice synergy between NCAA bylaws and federal/state drug laws, in that they both seem almost willfully designed to generate as much corruption and exploitation as possible.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:44 AM ^
Well, if Roscoe and Enos are involved, you can bet it reaches all the way up to Boss Hogg.
What about Cletus?
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^
Are you really surprised by this? This is just another view of the 'good ole' boys network' that has broad and wide reach. You'd have to imagine there are some pretty strong and longstanding ties between the big time HS football and law enforcement there and well pretty much all across the country esp in rural areas w little oversite.
March 23rd, 2021 at 12:50 PM ^
Yes I am really surprised by this, since this is the only time I've heard of corruption (if true) at this level, unless you can give us some other examples, other than fictional movies, and TV show. This isn't Friday Night lights. Helping kids get out of trouble when they may break the law, or looking the other way is nothing like taking confiscated items and using it to pay players to attend certain schools.
While those films/shows are fiction the basic premise comes from reality. Friday Night Lights is based on things that do happen and then they start writing the script that works well on screen.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:36 AM ^
Slow internet, double post.
March 23rd, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^
Wade: Hold my beer...
Shocked or not shocked if this turns out to be true? Hmm...lemme think for a New York minute...
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:02 AM ^
Not shocked....but why are these kids moving to Valdosta, GA? Isn't U of GA in Athens? Don't understand the Valdosta connection.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:11 AM ^
Maybe they're trying to not be obvious. LOL
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:19 AM ^
They move to Valdosta to play for a national HS football powerhouse to boost their profiles. The implication being made is that the coach at that HS football powerhouse is funneling the best guys to schools willing to pay up.
While I don't doubt those universities are paying the players, I do doubt that this HS coach has as much clout as he thinks he does.
March 23rd, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
I'm from SoCal, but was in Valdosta on a business trip. Drove past it and thought it was a JC. 
This Probst guy was in the news a few weeks ago for saying UGA paid up. But this seems to have more details, including specific sums and Bama involvement. Nonetheless, this story will go the way of the LSU, uhh, Dodo...
I read the whole article, and while I don't doubt some shady stuff goes on around SEC programs, I'm not relying on anything Probst has to say to inform my opinion. That guy is crooked as hell, and would sell his own mother down the river (already has sold his wife and family once).
I still think Alabama and Georgia don't have any need to lay out cash like this to get their players. They win and put guys in the NFL.
I have to disagree. Michigan BB wins and puts guys in the league at a clip that is on par with the very best in the sport over the last decade and still (before Juwan) couldn't compete for the best players in the country.
Before Howard, Beilein put a bunch of marginal-to-good players into the NBA who are marginal players in the NBA. And thus, he recruited a bunch of marginal-to-good players to his team.
Howard has been here 2 years. He has recruited top flight players, and put a top 10 team on the court. But it's only 2 years, he hasn't put any top players in the NBA yet.
If he does, and he keeps the pace up, or gets better, he'll be proving my point for me.
So are you saying that Howard must be paying players? If not, your point doesn't make sense.
My point makes perfect sense, and I have no idea where you got the thought that Howard is paying players. I'd be stunned if he is. That guy was Mr. Clean in the Fab 5, and I can't imagine he has changed his stripes.
I'm saying if Howard does as well here as his trajectory leads us to believe he would have no need to pay players. The attraction of the program is: They go to Michigan, they win, then go to the NBA, and get paid because they played for the best.
This is what Alabama and the SEC powers (and Ohio State and Clemson) sell in football. You play for them, you win, you go to the NFL and get paid.
Will Wade starts his star recruits out at the NBA league minimum. There's levels to this game.
This is a smoking gun to an open secret.
I wish this would actually have real world implications, but but we've seen the NCAA doesn't care.
I'm sure they'd rather go after some kid making beer money from his youtube channel instead.
Unfortunately it's not. It doesn't seem Propst was actually involved or in a position to have first-hand knowledge of any of these allegations. He has no proof to back up anything he's claimed, and what's more he now denies that he knows anything about any wrongdoing by Georgia or Alabama.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:09 AM ^
I'm sure they have much dirtier dirt on him that they're now hanging over his head to make him walk back his comments. The day the SEC is truly outed will be the day before the NCAA changes the rule to let players get paid.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^
My question is, with the sums of money they are talking about, doesn't this open the players/families up to IRS implications? This seems like it could be curbed quickly if the government went after the tax evasion aspect of this.
Having dealt with the IRS in the past due to a relatively small math error (less than $1000) I don't see how $150k goes unnoticed unless they are providing money laundering services with the payout.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:56 AM ^
they aren't writing checks and sending wire transfers.
They get paid in cash and casino chips.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:12 AM ^
So in the end they do end up paying taxes if it comes in as gambling winnings. So yeah, Money laundering.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:14 AM ^
Even $150K is small time considering the amount of investigations the IRS has to do every year. They aren't paying attention to what you're buying until it's time to report taxes. If you don't buy anything that changes your tax structure in a drastic way, they (normally) aren't going to look into it. You can't buy a house/land without notice, a car, or open a bank account to earn interest on the windfall. But if you stash it in a mattress and use cash to make a regular mortgage payment, nobody will know.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^
Makes sense. That's why I pay someone to manage my finances. It's not my area of expertise.
Secret recordings somehow won't hold up in an Alabama/Georgia court. I'll be incredibly shocked if anything happens to Georgia or Alabama.
They would be thrown out more for the fact that they are hearsay evidence with nothing to corroborate them, rather than the fact that they are secret recordings.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:21 AM ^
Correct. And if recorded in a one party consent state and that party willingly gave them to others, they aren't secret recordings. Secret recordings are when no party is aware (and aren't in public) they are being recorded or the recordings were obtained illegally such as hacking.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:29 AM ^
Georgia is a one-party consent state.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^
As is Michigan, although a fed district ct case last year threw some uncertainty into that doctrine.
March 23rd, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^
So is East Lansing ?
Crimson Tide football is literally the biggest thing in the state of Alabama. Ain't nothin' gonna touch that.
Those are strong ass offers
Nothing will happen.
The NCAA once again proved this week they are just a stack of dumbbells...
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:43 AM ^
Except to Women's programs, where they are lacking.
So, this is really a story about a scumbag high school coach who, in a tangent to what the article is actually about, spouted evidence-free, hearsay allegations about recruiting violations at Alabama and Georgia.
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:05 AM ^
Yep. What he said. +1 for the Preacher man!
March 23rd, 2021 at 10:59 AM ^
Hell, Alabama and Georgia players have posted evidence against Georgia and Alabama in the past and no one gave a shit, so they certainly won't give a shit now!
University of Southern Alabama and the University of Southern Georgia are going to get the book thrown at them for this!!
....and the NCAA won’t do a damn thing.
I remember Coach Propst from the MTV show Two a Days. Apparently, he's been in trouble with various scandals for almost the entire time since that show aired.
Regardless, this seems like someone with inside knowledge saying out loud what most people already assume to be the case.
But seeing as he's a proven corrupt scumbag and liar, his word about what is happening places outside his own program won't be given a lot of credibility.
mike, if you look back at what he's saying, it is exactly in line with what folks have been saying for decades about SEC football it's just that he gave specifics. there are a boatload of articles about SEC payola, just take some time to look. heck, didn't tennessee's AD 'out' the football coach so they could get rid of him 'for cause' and not pay the buy-out a few months ago?
look at rashawn gary's comment about turning down big $ from clemson (ACC, but same stripes); deshawn hand's payments from 'bama. and even the son of a long-time friend who recently graduated but was a player at UGA. this stuff is the coin of the SEC realm, period, end of story. clemson and ohio are part of the arms race, but the SEC is main king in all of this.