I voted a long time ago and can't find it on my FB timeline.
courts be like "why is it a problem if people get money"
That's funny and creative /s
As someone who deals with A&M fans on a regular basis, I can speak to the validity of the characterization. Haha.
So you know how many Aggie jokes there are out there? 2 of them. All the rest of the stories are absolutely true.
Yeah fuck agriculture. We don't need no food.
I hear TA&M or Aggie and IMMEDIATELY think of prevailandride.blogspot.com
Dude ate some crow based on his pre-season MS Paint post but it was and is still funny. Week 11 post killed it and still cracks me up while he basically predicted (who couldn't, lol) the NCG and outcome the post after both Oregon ans KSU lost.
Never disliked A&M but their fans in the vote were almost uniformly assholes. Very few "it's just a stupid cover, guys" and 99% "hahaha butthurt Michigan fans!1!!1" , "denard sux" and "what has Michigan done in the last 20 years?!?" (as if a good year, Heisman winner and beating a worn down Bama fresh off a grinder vs LSU = We've never been down) fans. Not that our fans didn't have some bad seeds but it was FAR less toxic and much more simply "GO BLUE!" or "Go Denard!" type stuff before, during and after the blatant cheating outcries.
I can say I now think much less of their fanbase than I used to. I never disliked A&M or their fans but maybe it's because I'd never interacted with a fan or really seen their team do much in my life. As far as Texas teams go, I'd now put them below SMU and North Texas on my like list. Yet, that's just me as it's not like we can attribute all of the world's agriculture and agriculture technology/advancement to one A&M school in Texas.
Still, I laughed at your comment. haha
Supposed to be announced Tuesday. I'm expecting denard came out on top. EA stated that about 15 percent of each sides votes were going to be scrapped.
EA is gunna act like they're doing something for a couple days to appease people then choose Denard. Cus we sell copies or whatever. Yay fanbase!
They're even selling Denard jerseys in Ohio
Probably not as well as hotcakes.
We were up 14k votes and in one day that was eliminated. We also still ended up winning the total vote. However, I wouldn't be all that suprised if they did something like a regional release or something like that as a compromise. That or they have a completely subjective and arbitrary/ridiculous way of weeding through close to almost 400k votes to determine who's realy and who's not.
EA knows damn well that having Denard on the cover is a lot more marketable than one with Ryan Swope on it. This was never a competition.
i dont think ea cares who is on the cover. they know that they will sell roughly the same amount of games no matter who is on the cover. they put peyton hillis on the cover of madden a couple of years ago, and if they wanted to put someone who was marketable he would not have been on it.
ncaa football sales are nowhere near the sales of madden. marketing is much more important for the ncaa football franchise than for madden. i am almost positive they are going to think long and hard about who is on the cover and what impact that may have on sales.
if whoever was on the cover was such a sales difference and so important why would EA let swope (???) get on the cover.
i agree, i didn't even know who he was before this cover vote. They would have replaced him with the likes of matt barkley or some more marketable name.
The average fan will actually think it's the heisman winner and not spend the time to look up his number. The majority of college fans wouldn't know the diference.
It's actually a good idea from a marketing standpoint.
Personally, I have a rule where I don't buy sports games each year. It's just waste of money since not much changes from year to year. This is the year to skip NCAA for me. However, if Denard is on the cover I'd pick it up just to have something cool like that. Denard was a bright spot on some very dark years of Michigan football. I'd think you'd see a lot of people buying it just to have it as memrobilia.
I have no idea how true it is that EA is putting this much effort into making sure only "real" votes are being counted but I have to really wonder if several staff members working over time combing through thousands of votes is really cost effective here. Yes, the Facebook vote is nothing more than an interest generating promo but this has gone a little too far from a business perspective. It is glaringly obvious which player would sell more games. And one fanbase is guaranteed to be pissed off anyway, so why would you piss off the biggest one in the country?
They should do what they did for Madden '09. Release it with Denard on the cover (cause obviously) and then offer a printable sleeve featuring "that dude from A&M" that people can slide over it if they have no morals.
...counted but I have to really wonder if several staff members working over time combing through thousands of votes is really cost effective here.
It would take very, very little man hours. This is the internet/computers. Just about any coder has write a script that sorts the votes according to person/page/email address/male/female/left-handedness/whateva.
It might take an hour to write that code. Probably much less for someone who knows the Facebook API well. It would literally take milliseconds to sort that data once the program is written.
Software baby. Sorting those votes is no issue at all.
While you're right, you're overselling it a bit. Working with the Facebook API isn't a perfect situation (trust me, I've done it, it's not the world's prettiest API), and that's assuming Facebook provides endpoints where you can access a voting record. Otherwise, you're SOL.
With that said, assuming the API functionality exists, I would expect something more like the better part of an afternoon, and it would probably take a couple minutes to return, not milliseconds. You need to make a round trip to Facebook's server for each vote, possibly multiples, and each one of those visits is going to take a few dozen milliseconds at least.
Haven't worked with the FB API in many years, so I'll take your word for it. I was admittedly being a little hyperbolic with how quickly a script could be wrote, though I would have thought FB would be able to provide some simple analytics that could be accessed easily.
If you're correct that a script would ahve to go back and forth with the server, then yeah your estimate is probably better.
Point remains, I don't think it is a difficult task to analyze these votes.
I am not a software engineer or anything but this was the first thing I had thought, that a simple program (that a B- student could probably design) should be able to do the trick. So if that's all that it takes then why the ridiculously long delay in announcing the results?
Speaking as someone who does some data mining, you should think that it would take them about an hour to figure out as long as Facebook isn't totally stupid.
Seriously, if the vote came from a community account (or however the SECers were subverting the system), you just pitch it. If it came from a real person, you keep it. It isn't a democracy, they aren't worried about infringing on people's rights.
if you have the little "So and So voted for NCAA Cover vote" linked to the direct vote on your facebook profile you can see the vote still climbing and the radio buttons next to their names still work. Don't know if EA is sifting through votes or it's unintended but you can see Denard and Swope's votes keep climbing.
Around midnight last night the voting was something like Denard 198k, Swope 193k
Around 4:00 AM it was something like Denard 195k, Swope 188k
Since this morning, it's been close to Denard 199k, Swope 191k
So yeah something is happening with the votes...
Also, I saw someone from U of Texas say he just voted Denard around 4:30 PM today. He finished his comment with, "Hook Em." Not sure how he voted if the polling is supposedly closed.
This is what the Hardy Boys must feel like?
Shoelace: "Kids would go for his shoes on tackles, and he'd come up to the huddle in just socks. His coach couldn't stand it at first and neither could his parents. They'd tie wristbands around his shoes. When that didn't work, they tried athletic tape. They even rolled his socks over his shoes. He was a marvel, and he wasn't even finished with the sixth grade."
... and a degree from MICHIGAN.
Yeah, Denard won.
|Rank||Player||Year||Opponent||Passing yards||Rushing yards||Total offense|
|1||Denard Robinson||2010||Notre Dame||244||258||502|
|4||Denard Robinson||2011||Notre Dame||338||108||446|
|5||Denard Robinson||2012||Air Force||208||218||426|
|8||Denard Robinson||2010||Penn State||190||191||381|
|9||John Navarre||2003||Iowa||389||(21)[n 1]||368|
MilliA degree from Michigan and legions of ans.LLegions
Is overflowing with Win
That "502" number will always make me smile.
was pretty good too
Followed by his epic "WHAAA?" in the post-game interview when someone told him how many he had.
I sat in front of my computer showing that clip to my then 3 year old daughter. For weeks, she would keep asking "can we watch Denard say WHAAA?" /proud dad
EA marketing won in a landslide...
What you guys don't know is that this was just the "preliminary" rounds.
Denard won, but all it gets him is a spot in the true 256-player field. The actual contest ends in March 2026
EA Sports NCAA Football 2014 video game cover!
...trophy or a trip to Pasadena when we win?
not with Denard. when you win with denard you get a close victory over illinois or a monster game against Umass....
Buy the Charles Woodson version if you want to win a conference championship or Rose Bowl.
How could I not have heard about it? Why hasn't there been a thread on this? I would have voted.
/s. <---------- obligatory.
I never even got a chance to vote. The contest was so quick. Hope Denard wins.
I am glad someone got it.
In this man's opinion, EA telling people they'd handle it was just a ploy to get everyone to stop bothering them. There's no (to my knowledge) practical, effective way to go through all those votes. If they really wanted to do this, they'd probably need 20-30 programming interns working round the clock for the next few days.
That being said, I think this was also a way for EA to have complete control over who they want on the cover. This whole cheating thing got a little out of hand and its clear both sides did it, so now they can cut however many votes they want and pick whoever they want on the cover. And there's no reason to not put Denard on the cover.
In all fairness to to Swope, who I'm sure is a great football player, a lot of people will be turned off by him being on the cover, and may not buy because of it. He's a relative unknown in college football, completely in Manziel's shadow. Love him or hate him, everyone knows who Denard Robinson is. He's the face of one of college football's greatest programs, has made some ridiculous things happen over the years, and has a smile that can cure cancer. The man's a household name. This should be a no-brainer.
I don't think it's as hard as it sounds. All the bogus votes were from "fan pages" or "causes" created from the cheaters' facebook accounts. I'm sure there is a way to take the results and filter out those votes.
I'm not sure about that at all. Sure, some engineer at Facebook could certainly do it...but EA may not have a good way of doing it themselves.
Anyway, I agree with other posters that EA will put on whoever they think is better now. Both sides cheated so they can just do whatever they want now. I would think Denard has more national appeal, but I'm sure EA's marketing department has some actual data. Maybe there are lots of SEC fans out there to cater to.
We'll see soon.
I said in another thread that this isn't something that matters and it still isn't. Who cares? Well, I guess I'd like Denard on the cover (I assume he'll get paid). If he's not, for me not a single fuck will be given.