Off-season Michigan Over/Under
Football
1. (8.5) Regular Season Wins for Michigan Football
2. (1,000) Yards Rushing or Receiving by any player
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU)
Basketball
1. Nik Stauskas' draft spot compared to Gary Harris
2. Glenn Robinson III's draft spot compared to Adreian Payne
3. (8.5-seed) in 2015 NCAA Tournament
*Over = better / Under = worse*
8 wins look about right. But who knows, we could win the B1G this season if we are +2!
If we can take 2 our of 3 of our big road games. I'm worried we could lose all three. I hope we can win 1 and it will be happy days if we can win 2 out of 3!
Just for that reason, I think we're peaking late, we're finally getting better throughout the season and we're a team that OSU beats by 14 in the first game of the year and loses to in the finale.
I think Miller has all the hype and pressure to go out on top and we play the spoiler role and beat them.
I think we beat MSU too, ugly game, lots of FGs.
ND to me is the toss-up, I think it's so early in the year, on the road, I see it as one of those games where we make their QB look like a Hesiman trophy winner.
I say lose to ND, beat MSU..barely, like last second FG or questionable call barely, and we beat OSU in a close game.
Football
(Presume we are including bowl game)
- Over - I think they win 9
- Over
- Sadly, under
Basketball
- Under - just barely.
- Over
- Over
Football
Over (9 wins)
Under (Think it'll be split up too much)
Under (All three on the road, we'll likely be underdogs in all. I think we'll take one in a close game)
Basketball
Over
Under
Over
Football: Under (8 wins), Under, Under
Basketball: Over, Under, Over
Only gonna do football because I don't know basketball so well
1. (8.5) Regular Season Wins for Michigan Football
Over - I think there are 8 wins on the schedule and 4 games that can go either way (ND, PSU, MSU, OSU). I think they Find ways to win over ND and PSU and lose to MSU and OSU. This would be 10-2 which is optimistic but even if they lose to ND or PSU they are still 9-3 and hit the over.
2. (1,000) Yards Rushing or Receiving by any player
Over - bunches of Funchess.
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU)
Under - See above.
1. (8.5) Regular Season Wins for Michigan Football
Over, but I find my own optimism here depressing when put in context. Unfortunately, I am almost positive that two of those losses will come against OSU and MSU, with the third loss either coming against Notre Dame and thereby making us 0-3 in rivalry games or against some team we have no business losing to. Either way, the three losses will be so frustrating (particularly when you combine it with a couple close calls against bad teams) that we'll all feel really shitty about what could otherwise be viewed as improvement relative to the last two seasons.
2. (1,000) Yards Rushing or Receiving by any player
Under on the rushing - while I do think our run game will improve from last year, I believe we're going to see a committee approach that will result in pretty similar numbers for Smith and Green, with Hayes getting enough carries to further split things up. If by some miracle a certain former USC player is able to transfer in and get a waiver for immediate play, it gets that much more complicated.
Over on the receiving - Again, my optimism comes with a depressing disclaimer: I think Funchess reaches the 1,000 plateau -- and then declares for the draft. Now I'd rather have him play really well and leave than play so-so and return. But that doesn't mean it won't be a bummer when he goes.
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU)
Under. It appears (at least in May) that these are our three toughest opponents and all of them are on the road. Don't tell me when our last win in Columbus or East Lansing was because I don't even want to do the math. @ND is the most likely, given our recent success against the Irish (though mostly at home.) But we could easily win ten games this year and still not win at MSU or OSU. It really, really sucks to consider that possibility, but there it is.
Basketball
1. Nik Stauskas' draft spot compared to Gary Harris
I think Stauskas has impressed teams recently, and I'm leaning in favor of him getting taken ahead of Harris, even if only by one or two slots. This one is obviously a really close call.
2. Glenn Robinson III's draft spot compared to Adreian Payne
I think Robinson goes ahead of Payne based on age, athletic upside, and Payne's health issues.
3. (8.5-seed) in 2015 NCAA Tournament
Due to the manner in which we've outperformed expectations for a few years running now, I find it impossible not to be optimistic. We're young, especially inside. But is there more talent on this roster than there was for Novak's Big 10 title-winning #4 seeds from three years ago? Definitely. This is not a national championship team, and I think there is a ceiling on how far this team can ultimately go. But the Big 10 (at least outside of Wisconsin) seems to be looking slightly down, and after a couple early non-con struggles I think we can win enough games against the teams we should beat that we'll earn a better than #8 seed.
2. Under. I just don't see a 1000 yard rusher this season with Nuss and Hoke having said that they expect several RBs to get carries. And aside from funchess, I don't see any potential for a 1000 yard receiver.
3. Under. Despite what I said above in #1, each ND is loaded and well coached, MSU still has a lot of talent, is well coached and has a ton of program stability going for it, and Ohio is simply too loaded on talent. I would probably be happy winning 1 of those games this year, as we are still in rebuild mode as compared to those teams.
The football team will win 9-10 games.
Absolutely not. Even though we are all sick of the offensive nonsense that was Borges, the road losses, the losses to OSU and MSU, the seemingly lack of development, and generally all the excuses, it is logical, and only a small portion is the fault of the coaches. Between the losses in RR's recruiting classes, RR's lack of offensive lineman recruits, and the youth on the team it's hard to imagine many coahces doing much more. Brandon knows this, Brandon supports Hoke, and Hoke was his hire. He also knows coaching turnover and instability will only push the timeline back further. Regardless of if Hoke loses to all 3 rivals, if he wins 8 games he's definitely back. He deserves the chance to coach a team of guys he recruited and that has depth and upperclassman filling the majority of roles of starters.
Win the first 8 and lose the last 4 and he's done.
Just too much negative pub, too much media attention, too much fan/donor bitching.
Lose the first 4 and win the last 8, plus the bowl game...no way you fire a coach on a 9 game winning streak headed into next season with the team that we have coming back.
People want to put a number on the wins and losses but it depends on when they are and who they are against. Simply throwing out a number is absolutely silly.
I agree that it's more about the product on the field and the general feel of the team and the atmosphere than it is about the wins and losses. In fact, I think he can actually only win 7 games and still come back, assuming he's competitive in the losses. But, I disagree that if he wins the first 8 and loses the last 4 that he gets fired. If he beats ND and MSU and wins 8 games I seriously doubt he gets canned, even if it's 4 losses in a row. This is kind of a pointless argument so I apologize, but I still don't see him getting fired from that.
"He deserves the chance to coach a team of guys he recruited and that has depth and upperclassman filling the majority of roles of starters."
I 100% agree that Brandon should give his guy Hoke the opportunity he didnt give RR - it's only fair (see team record circa 2011 for evidence on how nicely that generally works out).
Anyways for me football is over (I have us 9-3), under and under (I think we lose all three rivarly games and win everything else). And basketball is over, over and over.
1) Over. I think they go 10-2. The defense will be very good (top 10 nationally) and the offense, namely Devin Gardner, will be good enough to get the job done.
2) Over. Funchess has a huge year. No RB breaks 800 yards, though.
3) Over. They win 2 out of 3 (please!).
4) Over. Nik goes 10ish while Harris goes around 15.
5) Under. Payne comes off the board about 10 spots before Glenn.
6) Well over. I see them as a 4 or 5 seed, similar to 2011-2012.
Football
1.OVER: I predict a very bitter 9-3 where we lose all three games that matter most.
2. OVER: With this crappy schedule I suspect someone will have over 1,000 yards.
3. A very SAD under at 0-3.
Basketball
1. Over but really could care less.
2. Under but really could care less.
3. Under but thrilled if they make the tournament all things considered.
Football
1. (8.5) OVER, Going with atleast 9
2. (1,000) OVER FUNCHESS
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU) OVER- (2) we'll split between MSU/OSU
Basketball
1. Nik Stauskas' draft spot compared to Gary Harris- OVER--No way Harris gets drafted higher
2. Glenn Robinson III's draft spot compared to Adreian Payne- Under-- Payne is the more complete Player.
3. (8.5-seed) in 2015 NCAA Tournament- Under--Next year should be a rebuild year, so i'm thinking a 12-14 seed.
This is the argument that drives me NUTS.
I've seen it made 3-4 times in this thread.
In the NBA that literally has NOTHING to do with it. If so THJ would've been a top 10 pick. He was more of a complete player than more than half the guys taken ahead of him. Hell, he was probably one of the 3 most complete players in the entire draft!
We see what Payne did to Michigan, we like him because of his relationship with Princess Lacey, we never saw him talking trash or anything like that...and we think that stuff affects his draft stock.
It's not who WE would take. It's not who WE think is the better player. It's who's going to get drafted higher.
I'm pretty sure any fanbase thinks (even wishfully) that its going to beat ONE of its three rivals. Especially one as proud as Michigan. Especially a Michigan team that was 7-6 last year with a win and an almost win over 2 of those, not 0-12.
| Date | Opponent / Event | Location | Result |
| Sat., Aug. 30 |
vs. Appalachian State  |
Michigan Stadium | W 41-10 |
| Sat., Sep. 6 |
at Notre Dame |
South Bend, Ind. | L 17-27 |
| Sat., Sep. 13 |
vs. Miami (Ohio) |
Michigan Stadium | W 31-17 |
| Sat., Sep. 20 |
vs. Utah |
Michigan Stadium | W 24-21 |
| Sat., Sep. 27 |
vs. Minnesota * |
Michigan Stadium | W 28-14 |
| Sat., Oct. 4 |
at Rutgers * |
Piscataway, N.J. | W 24-13 |
| Sat., Oct. 11 |
vs. Penn State * |
Michigan Stadium | W 20-17 |
| Sat., Oct. 25 |
at Michigan State * |
East Lansing, Mich. | W 16-13 |
| Sat., Nov. 1 |
vs. Indiana - Homecoming * |
Michigan Stadium | L 34-35 |
| Sat., Nov. 8 |
at Northwestern * |
Evanston, Ill. | W 38-27 |
| Sat., Nov. 22 |
vs. Maryland * |
Michigan Stadium | L 24-31 |
| Sat., Nov. 29 |
at Ohio State * |
Columbus, Ohio | W 27-24 |
| Sat., Dec. 6 |
Big Ten Championship Game |
Indianapolis, Ind. | TBA |
Sucks that I have us losing 2 of our last 4, especially since I keep saying "we have to improve each week and the team in December should beat the same Michigan team in August by 2 touchdowns."
I think that will be the case, but I think the schedule is just harder than it looks right now. Indiana is a scoring machine, N'western still has Trevor Siemian and Venric Mark, if Maryland is healthy, they're a very good team and then there's OSU.
Because both of our B1G losses are in the division, I'm going to say we miss out on the B1G Championship game and end up in the Capital One Bowl.
With us continuing to improve every week, the extra bowl practices, etc. I say we come out and "destroy" an SEC team, let's say Florida or Alabama.
| Thur., Jan. 1 |
Capital One Bowl Game vs. Alabama |
Orlando, Fl. | 31-17 |
10-3, beat OSU and Alabama to close the year, Hoke keeps his job, finish the year something like #14 with a similar year to 2013 LSU. In 2015 Shane Morris and co. lead us to our first B1G Championship and into the College Football Playoff. Michigan is football is finally back.
I pretty much agree with your 9-3 prediction. I am not so confident re: beating OSU, but I think we will beat either Indiana, NW or Maryland.
Losing a 2nd game, at home, on senior day, after a bye vs. back-to-back losses.
In the end, it didn't matter much for my prediction in order to get the same result.
That said, I agree, that 3 game stretch between MSU and OSU is going to be very tough. I agree that we're not back at the point where we chalk those games up as wins.
the defense will be stronger than your breakdown suggests. I'm thinking more toward 17pts/game than 21pts/game.
But I think we face some unbalanced offensive teams...like Indiana.
In our father's B1G I think we have a very solid D, in 2014, I think it's a little tougher.
We will probably get blown out in Columbus. To lose to Maryland that late in the season, 1.) either we have a shit load of injuries or 2.) Hoke and CO truly cannot develop talent.
I say if we lose to Maryland late in the season at home, then we will be lucky to win 6. Hoke's future will really depend on how the team is playing late in the season. If there is no progress and we regress yet again. Then it will be time dump Hoke and back up the money truck to get the best coach in college football.
1. Over (9).
2. Funchess gets 1000 yards receiving.
3. 1.
1. Stauskas goes in the lottery. Harris falls to the late teens.
2. GRIII goes in the early 20s. Payne goes just after him.
3. Over.
1: Coin flip. GIven the subject line you have to treat any combination that generates at least 8 wins as a successful season. I'll take the over and hope for 9 or better.
2: This probably comes down to receiving yards because I don't see a single back getting the carries and the line making enough progress. I have no doubt that, if healthy, DG will throw for over 3000 yards. Odds are someone will get a third of that are pretty good, although at this point it's tough to guess who that will be. So over.
3 Back to the subject line on this one. Playing ND in the team's second game in a new offense at ND is going to be a very tough win. My head says under, my heart says over. I'd rather go with my heart than be rational and will take the over.
Over
Over
Under
Over
Under
Over
Football:
- Over (I think we take a big step this year with the D leading the way)
- Over (Funchess is college megatron this year)
- Over (we get ND and MSU....another L against Ohio)
Basketball:
- Over
- Under
- Over
January 12th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
Football
1. (8.5) Regular Season Wins for Michigan Football - UNDER
2. (1,000) Yards Rushing or Receiving by any player - UNDER
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU) - UNDER
Basketball
1. Nik Stauskas' draft spot compared to Gary Harris - OVER? Better anyway
2. Glenn Robinson III's draft spot compared to Adreian Payne - UNDER? Worse anyway
3. (8.5-seed) in 2015 NCAA Tournament - Probably not making the tournament.