Sam Webb on LB Recruiting

Submitted by jbibiza on

In response to my email question this morning Sam Webb said that we are definitely in on OLB prospect Jimmie Swain from Missouri.  No offer yet, but one is likely in the near future.  Kudos to Balrog of Morgoth for uncovering this guy in the Kyron Watson thread yesterday.  Swain's highlights are impressive and he has the frame to play SLB.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1332538/highlights/25488376

Sam also mentioned what many of us had already surmised - that we are likely now looking for at least three linebackers in this class - perhaps two SLB plus Ferns.

Monocle Smile

May 15th, 2013 at 10:04 AM ^

of having terrifying Thunder God at SLB while no true stars at DE. It's not really a schematic thing; Mattison has been pretty clear about putting specific players in pass rush situations rather than specific positions. Also note that a large chunk of pass rush came from Kovacs ninja blitzes.

EGD

May 15th, 2013 at 10:04 AM ^

We do have McCray coming in 2013, plus evidently Ferns can play SAM.  So it seems unlikely that would take two SLBs in 2014 plus Ferns. Maybe one SLB (Winovich or Swain), plus another MLB/WLB prospect?

ken725

May 15th, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^

I was only trying to explain why he named all MIKEs. In Mattison's defense the MIKE and WILL are both considered ILBs. Who makes the audible calls the MIKE or WILL? Do they both make adjustment calls?

joeyb

May 15th, 2013 at 10:42 AM ^

85 scholarships and 22 positions means that we should have 4 players at every position. So, the goal should be to take 1 player at every postion each year. 3 LB spots means 3 LB recruits.

Keep in mind that, last year, we were talking about a small class as well and we had lots of people leave the team. On top of normal attrition, we could also have guys like Paskorz, Furman, and Hagerup not be extended 5th years.

joeyb

May 15th, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^

I'm talking in general terms here to get an idea of what each class should look like, not some hard-and-fast rule. There are also factors outside of just recruiting and graduation like red shirts and different types of attrition that this doesn't accout for. 

So, if you really want to get technical about it, OL almost always redshirt. That means you only need to recruit 4 per year to maintain a 4-deep at each position. That brings your total class size to 21. 21 x 4 = 84. Use the scholarships from attrition to get a kicker every other year and recruit for positions of need after attrition.

redhousewolverine

May 15th, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^

True. The situation is never as simple as 1 SR graduating so only need 1-2 LB's. Attrition always happens, as we are painfully aware. Especially considering, any LB's we bring in will be freshman and will probably need at least 1-2 years to develop before they can contribute. That would mean that next year we lose Jake Ryan and Morgan and will be needing replacements. Ryan's loss is particularly critical because we will then have either a JR/RS So McCray and 1-2 So/RS FR LB's to fill that gap. Taking more SLB (2 let's say) gives us more opportunities that one of them will work out.

MgoRayO3313

May 15th, 2013 at 10:11 AM ^

After watching more film on this guy it seems as though he would be a great pick up. I hate to say this but he kind of reminds me of Ryan Shazier for ohio. Always downhill, and stays home on counters. I like his pursuit as well. Seems like a great athlete. Film also reminds me a bit of our own Jake Ryan's a bit, except he comes off as a little more orthodox in his style and technique. Very physical and aggressive. Comes across as someone who will make mistakes early n in his career but will be quickly groomed and could easily be a huge contributor on D by his sophomore year (depth pending).

jbibiza

May 15th, 2013 at 10:14 AM ^

Ferns seems much better suited to the inside, and it seems he was recruited to play there.  I agree that he has some length and speed so could play SLB, but most scouts see him as a prototypical MLB/WLB... with emphasis on the MIKE.

 

EDIT- meant this as a reply to EGD who sees Fernes as a SLB.

EGD

May 15th, 2013 at 10:21 AM ^

I don't disagree with you.  It's just that a few days ago, when it still looked like the staff was after Kyron Watson, the consensus seemed to be that if Winovich didn't go Blue, then we would take Watson as an MLB and Ferns would come in as a SAM.  Though, it could be that was never the case, or if it was, the coaches may have reconsidered.

Maizenblueball

May 15th, 2013 at 10:22 AM ^

I must confess that I don't know much about Jimmie Swain, but he looks like he has some great potential, after watching his film.  Sounds like Michigan hasn't offered him yet, but does anyone know what his offer sheet looks like?

bronxblue

May 15th, 2013 at 10:28 AM ^

Looks like a good find.  But as others have noted, if the class stays small (under 20), I think they'll pick up a third LB only toward the end, space permitting.  They still have holes at other positions that are more pressing, at least in my opinion.

Mr. Rager

May 15th, 2013 at 10:49 AM ^

I have no idea why you think that.

The coaches hosted a LB this past weekend (Winovich), dropped another this past week (Watson), and are now extending new offers / looking at new kids for the SLB position. 

Based on that, I have no freaking clue how you could arrive at "they'll only pick up a 3rd LB if..." scenario.  Unless you are a small child or mentally incapacitated.  

Magnus

May 15th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

Lee's Summit is the same school that Evan Boehm attended, whom some of you may remember from the 2012 class.  He had some interest in Michigan but ended up committing to Mizzou.

maize-blue

May 15th, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^

Where in the LB corp is Gedeon projected at? It seems like his name isn't mentioned too much in discussions. Wasn't his nickname in HS "The Freak"? Just wondering why he isn't brought up too much.

gopoohgo

May 15th, 2013 at 5:49 PM ^

No.  Morgoth = Melkor, the true Dark God of the Tolkein world.

The Balrogs were Maiar, essentially demi-gods that chose to follow Melkor (Morgoth).  Others of the Ainur that followed the other Gods became the 5 Istari (Wizards)...Gandalf, Saruman, Ragdstad and the two other ignored ones..

Yay Silmarillion and Tolkein dorkiness! o.O