Saban: Satellite camps like U-M's are 'ridiculous'
We knew they would be crying foul. Now Saban joins in.
"If we're all going to travel all over the country to have satellite camps, you know, how ridiculous is that?" Saban said Tuesday evening, before the Crimson Caravan stop in Huntsville, Ala., as reported by al.com. "I mean, we're not allowed to go to all-star games, but now we're going to have satellite camps all over the country. So it doesn't really make sense."
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c.../04/22/michigan-football-nick-saban/26169641/
...then she must be worth every penny.
What the hell is going on with that gif?
Jim and Jack Harbaugh were on a taping of Judge Judy once. Just youtube it. Jim loves him some Judge Judy
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:11 AM ^
seriously really funny that he tweated her a congratulations on signing her "extension."
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Dude wouldn't agree to play a playoff game north of the Mason-Dixon.
I don't even have to list the shadiness of Alabama. And I'm not talking paying players...I'm talking oversigning, cutting players, St. Saban hospital, etc.
This doesn't even come in top 5 in comparison to things Saban does.
Okay thumbs up J-Law .gif for you.
Love that a man, who has offered an 8th grader and whose offensive coordinator had once offered and accepted a commitment from a 13 year old David Sills, called satellite camps "ridiculous"...
Not having anyone to guard against a missed field goal run back for a touchdown.
April 22nd, 2015 at 11:07 AM ^
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April 22nd, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
Gosh that gif never gets old. I could watch it a thousand times and still be laughing
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^
On a side note, overall incredibly impressed with Cutcliffe. Very well spoken and clearly runs a very value driven program, I hope to see him have continued success in the ACC.
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Cutcliffe I imagine.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:49 AM ^
Though he makes a decent point about the concerns that it could transform into a AAU type of environment, he seems to forget how the camps were formed.. It was done by the school to ask Jim Harbaugh to coach in the camp.. I am not certain about the finances but from everything, I do not think JH would need to pay for him to coach there (or to start a camp).. If anything, wouldn't be the other way around? Added, if it is going to become as Cutcliffe stated. Well, then we should not have satelitte camps period, including those that are local.. Cutcliffe's statement would imply that there should be no camps period in local schools as much as those far away (which I assume he has no issue with local ones)... I believe Cutcliffe would bounce on this opportunity if he was given a chance..
At the end, ACC just like SEC are in good fertile recruiting grounds... They know there will be big competition for them.. Adding, another group in the field would only diminish their chances for better prospects is what I am getting from the conversation.
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April 22nd, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
Focus on one rule at a time, Nick. You haven't gotten them to stop the no huddle offense, yet.
I think most Big Ten schools would be willing to give up satellite camps if the SEC eliminated oversigning in its entirety.
How's that for a fair trade Saban?
I'm not a huge fan of satellite camps from an NCAA perspective, because I think the recruiting game is getting ridiculous, and this is another part of that. But it is allowed, and Harbaugh absolutely should be doing it because it's not unethical (I just find it a bit ridiculous; not like Saban does, but a little uneasy about it if the situation was flipped and SEC coaches were coming up to Michigan all the time and it's clearly finding a loophole in the rules). And it's not so much one or a few programs doing it, it's the tought of it opening a can of worms and all of them doing it. And at the end of the day, and this is a big, huge, significant point: this is good for the kids.
A lot of these kids don't get opportunities to travel to meet coaches. They get 5 official visits, but can't take them until fall, and they're being asked to make decisions earlier and earlier. On top of that, they are limited to the amount of good coaching they can get. Maybe a couple local camps held by college coaches, some may be lucky to have pretty good high school coaches, but this is another opportunity for many of these kids to get free training in something that could eventually provide them a free education. Getting more eyes on the kids and getting the kids in touch with more opportunities is a good thing.
And that's how I've come around to the idea of satellite camps. It's also why the NCAA will probably listen to the SEC coaches complaining about it. I wouldn't be completely against the NCAA putting a limit on it (such as you can only host five every two years or something), but I don't think they should completely outlaw it either. I dunno, a little uneasy, but it is good for the kids, which makes me side more to the pro-satellite camp side.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
I agree. There's nothing unethical about it. I don't see a reason why Michigan's School of Engineering couldn't go to the middle of Kentucky or Oklahoma or Alabama to recruit kids for their engineering program. It's kind of like a job fair.
But yes, if every team starts doing it, then you have camps camps camps. Quite frankly, there are too many camps already where kids are spending time and money trying to get noticed. People talk about the pull of being a "student" athlete in college and how it affects academics, but I don't see people saying much about all these Rivals camps, ESPN camps, etc. that have kids traveling all over the place.
At the same time, having a "50-mile rule" is somewhat arbitrary. So Alabama can't reach kids who are 100 miles away from them within the state or region? That does seem silly.
Either way, the rules should be uniform for the entire country.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:34 AM ^
Exactly. And that should go for oversigning first and foremost. Let's get that crock of shit under control before we worry about some satellite camps.
every conference should be allowed to make their own by laws, hence a unique conference. That said, your reasoning about families spending too much money is exactly the reason why such camps are a good thing, not bad.
If a kid can spend $25 to camp for UofM rather than traveling then that lessens the burden financially. It also gives the kids an opportunity who never thought of camping or sending out tapes, etc for reasons such as time, personality or as can happen a weak high school program/coach/advocate.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
Recruiting game isn't just getting ridiculous, it passed ridiculous about fifteen years ago.
NCAA needs fundamental restructuring, and it should address the biggest issue first: paying players. Then it can sort out the details like satellite camps.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:56 AM ^
Exactly. It is a good thing for the players to get exposed to quality coaching, and an event like that has to potential reach the kids that participate in other positive ways, esp if the msg includes a pitch on the importance of their academics.
iirc, the coaching staff's have to be invited to participate, and this is not the Jim Harbaugh Michigan's Coming to Steal Your Recruits Again Saban Football Camp. No doubt the word has been put out through contacts and channels that Harbaugh and staff are available, but they do have to be wanted there.
Saban's a pretty powerful coach. He's not a helpless victim. He could lobby his conference via his AD for changes, or he could press for changes at the NCAA level. But he exploits things his conference allows that are prohibite elsewhere, and his whiny bitch routine sux.
Oh the hypocrisy - Saban can go suck a gigantic bag of dicks.
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How am I the first to post this? (in this thread I mean)
Well that's all the convincing I need. MOAR SATELLITE CAMPS!!!!!!11!!11!1!!!
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^
It is pretty ridiculous that we can run camps all over the south which are clearly for recruiting purposes. That loophole will be closed within the next few years I imagine.
OTOH, I am thoroughly enjoying them all being butthurt down there when they're all oversigning like mad men. Cry me a river Nick
It is good for kids. Sure we know it is for recruiting. Sounds like the ever sought after, Win Win!
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:01 AM ^
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April 22nd, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^
Tough shit, Saban. The NCAA allows it, and Michigan needs every advantage it can get as it tries rebuilding its program. Harbaugh's not going to apologize to you or anyone else for doing this.
Come talk to me when you finish oversigning and allowing convicted felons to transfer onto your team, and then we can talk about what's ridiculous and what's not.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:04 AM ^
I'm sure Saban will respond accordingly when recruiting.
I resemble that remark.
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^
I lost all respect for Saban when he wore those leopard skin styled slipons for his ESPN interview before the dreadfully awful Bama vs LSU game a few years ago..
April 22nd, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^