this may be of some local interest
They're hunting for clicks. Don't click. The Freep is garbage. Of course he'll consider. and they'll tell him he's 5'11'' and to not bother.
It's an interview with his father.
They didn't even interview Burke, just his dad! That paper is garbage. Agents can't talk to Burke, but as we all know, they can talk to his dad. Just ask Cam. They can tell him "your son had an amazing year, capitalize on it!" Whereas the actual chances of Burke going pro are slim to none. I've outlined these before but:
Trey is tiny for an NBA PG. The NBA loves height and he doesn't have it. He's not fast enough to be Chris Paul, he's not a prototype 1 and done.
This draft is a LOADED draft. Many people didnt go into the draft last year with the lockout who would have been drafted. Thus this draft is deeper than usual with talent.
This is the total inverse of Morris, who had height and went to a weak draft.
Here's the damn quote:
Nothing aside from the part in which Trey's dad says: "If I had to guess, Trey would love to go to the NBA."
From user Mackbru below. What college hoops star WOULDNT love to go to the NBA? What's his dad going to say? "Trey has never had asperations of playing in the nba"?? Stop clicking on the Freep.
I don't trust them.
Hey, Goober, it's not the paper's fault when the report comes straight from Burke's own father.
This is fishing for clicks like woah. /unintentional rhyme
All his dad said is that it's come up. The paper can ask leading questions all they want and, again, what's the dad going to say? That Trey DOESNT want to play in the leauge?
Someone needs to make a Section 1 signal, a la TomVH and Batman.
when you read a c and an l close together look like a d.
The most recent mock had him out of the first two rounds and rated 72 on the draft board.
After I saw this article, I googled mock drafts and read the first 6 or so that came up, all at recognizeable websites.
I didn't see Burke listed anywhere, even at the end of the second round. Last year, Morris was a popular pick because he had the prototypical NBA point guard frame and was young, so was pushed up based on potential. Trey Burke will always be 5-11, and had a very good season, but not a great one that can get NBA GMs to forget about his height. I think Burke needs a Kemba Walker type season to become a first round pick.
All that said - how many NBA teams really need a PG? There are a couple teams who would add a PG if he was a star right away, but that's not Burke. Burke would not be an immediate upgrade at PG for any team, which means he probably won't get drafted high, if at all.
Those who stay....may actually get drafted in the first round
I doubt he goes, but it wouldn't be catastrophic. We'd still be very good, but why don't they do the NBA like the NFL were you have to be 22 or so to enter it.
Who would play PG?
blake mclimans at point!
i'm going to have nightmares of Big Bird bringing the ball down the court now.
Actually, Burke's departure would be a catastrophic blow to our team next year. We would have absolutely zero depth at the PG position, and no one currently coming in who is recruited to play that spot. You can have all the athleticism you want, but if you dont have anyone to get them the ball, they don't do a lot of good.
We wouldn't just have zero depth at PG, we would have no PG period.
YES this would be catastrophic. Without Burke or Brundidge we would be screwed for point guard, which would ultimately bring us down...A LOT.
If Burke leaves, the basketball team went from a Big Ten favorite to an average Big Ten team
This would be the worst possible thing to happen to the Michigan Basketball team.
In recent memory sure.
The Fab Five would like to have a talk about the worst thing that could happen though.
Commence meltdown thread.
Fuck my life.
Is this real?
And it worked on me.
how can you say that? it has quotes from his dad. we can all hate snyder, but he's quoting the kid's dad.
Not that I want to turn into Section 1, but....
Here are his dad's quotes in the article.....
“I think that, for the most part, when you have a season as a freshman like he did, the NBA, they like them young. They think their ceiling is higher when they’re young,” Benji Burke said today. “Trey had some good games and a solid season for a freshman. It’s going to be one of the weaker point guard drafts in years.
"The second thing is he was considered high. He does have some juice right now. It didn’t end well, but he ended up having some great games. He’s got to be one of the top five freshman guards in the country. He got a hold of some information, and you at least need to inquire.
“I can’t say he’s coming back, can’t saying he’s leaving. If it had my way, he’d be coming back.”
“Trey, he would love to come back, because he thinks they’re going to have a good team,” Benji said. “In the same breath, how do I pass up the opportunity of a lifetime, and risk injury? There’s risk on both sides. Anytime there’s risk on both and the NBA is one side, I don’t know if I’ll ever be as hot as I am now. If I had to guess, Trey would love to go to the NBA. There’s a lot of uncertainties there, as far as getting drafted first round. Those are the things we’re trying to weigh.”
Out of these fairly vanilla quotes, the Free Press headline is "Trey Burke Strongly Considering Leaving Michigan for NBA." Um, ok
First of all, Trey Burke's Dad != Trey Burke. Secondly, even if you think dad's word is the gospel, most of what he says isn't really wrong. He does aspire to play in the NBA, and he should inquire.
The wording of the headline implies that Burke is basically out the door already. They're fishing for clicks.
Maybe I'm crazy, but the title depicts exactly what is happening in my opinion....the only thing you can question is the word "strongly", but based on his Dad's quotes, I'd say he's pretty strongly considering the NBA. Given he and his Dad's relationship, I'd say he's not just saying these things w/o reason.
Not crazy, just not demonstrating a strong understanding of the minutiae of the English language and media propaganda. You admit the questionable use of the word "strongly" but fail to realize there is a huge difference between "considering" and "strongly considering."
This has to do with perspective and nothing to do with understanding English....one person's view of strongly considering is not another person's view of strongly considering. To me, Burke going to a draft advisor and weighing things with his parents is strongly considering the NBA.
He's right, this is straight up fishing for clicks...
Im in shock
dear god, please no
For the record, nothing about that article, the title or the content would suggest that Trey is leaning toward the NBA draft. It appears he is doing his due diligence to weigh his options. Hopefully he gets sound advice through the process, and hopefully he comes back to improve his game.
that's what we all said last year.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his father's quotes seem to me that he's leaning NBA at the moment....but could depend on if he's 1st round material, which I assure you some agent will tell him he is
Nothing aside from the part in which Trey's dad says: "If I had to guess, Trey would love to go to the NBA."
Counterpoint: "Trey, he, would love to come back."
Yes, because every player ever who has considered going and "weighed his options" ended up leaving. It's just the way things work, it's a lifelong dream most like and therefore positive feedback is going to be emphasized. Hope Beilein is frantically on the phone to every uncommitted point guard prospect in the world right now.
whose advising this kid anyways?
Agreed, he should look at what Chris Paul did. If you compare their freshman stats, they're very similar, but Paul's were a little better. Even so, Paul came back for his sophomore year, improved upon that, and he's an all-star now.
I'm not saying that if Burke waits another year he'll automatically become an NBA All-Star, and that certainly doesn't take into account the types of draft classes around Paul's time, but Paul is just one positive example of why waiting an extra year can be a good thing.
In all seriousness, does this link even have any legitimately sources or quotes? I can't click on it.
Trey's dad, Benji.
Only his dad...
someone get him darius morris' number, stat.
Agreed. I hope he looks at what happened to D-Mo and stays another year.
Also, isn't this the draft class D-Mo left early to AVOID?
Both are in the D-league now. Coach B should call them in to "train" at Michigan these next few weeks.
Eh, we'll see what he says on April 10th. He was good this year, but I don't think he was good enough to go in the first round. But what do I know, I'm not the one being faced with the opportunity to make millions.
Okay this is starting to strongly resemble an RCMB thread. Please lock it. Please
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
First freep article I've read since stretchgate. Should've learned my lesson.
He must realize the NBA is not as decimated as it looks
Seems like due diligence more than anything else to me. Not that Snyder doesn't try to add sensationalist quotes all over the place.
Also love his penultimate paragraph apropos of nothing else:Burke is listed at 5-feet-11.
Crack writing there.
Emphasis on the crack part.
This board will melt down in 3... 2...
Oh wait. It already has.
Well Smotrycz was a slap to the tip, this would be a kick to the balls.
What kind of draft grade do you think he gets? I really have to imagine you could honestly say he is strongly consider coming back too....kind of a partly sunny or partly cloudy?
requires you to declare by April 10th every year. Before you could work out with teams for a few months and see if you get a first round promise or what kind of feedback you get from coaches and GM's. You would be making a relatively informed decision as the consensus to who is in the top 20-25 picks are pretty settled about the last week before the draft. Now you have time for one workout at best and you are making an almost completely uninformed decision. Morris had a couple agents/scouts tell him before the workout in Jersey (he pulled out) that he was a first round lock and he declared.
Who knows who is in Burke's ear. If he declares there is almost no way he goes in the first round this year. We will see.
I'm not worried. He is not going anywhere. I think he realizes the opportunity Michigan has next year to be pretty good. Plus, who would play PG?
he's not going to make a decision based on who would play PG next year.
Obviously. I am looking at purely the team aspect, not what he would consider to make his decision.
what kind of logic is that
If this happens, just wow. Losing Smot, Tre, Novak, Douglas, and even Tre's likely backup? Pretty hard to see how we would not take a major step back from this, even with the new incoming talent.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue . . .
I wonder if the fact that Sullinger stayed an extra year and probably lost a chunk of money has anything to do with this. I assume Burke is close with both Jared and his father.
Someone send this man a cat picture that says please stay!
Come on. Seriously? April Fools is still a 10 days away even if the weather is suggesting it has passed.
If he's thinking about it there must be news about PG depth in the draft. Tyshawn Taylor is in because he's a senior. After that, who else is for sure in might tell something - Kendall Marshall? Marquis Teague? Damian Lillard? BJ Young? There are some other combo guards likely in the conversation, but otherwise some middling guys he has out-performed. This will be an unfortunately interesting story to follow. Ugh.
Stauskus can play the point. We'd still have Hardaway, McGary, Morgan, and GR3.
"Jesus - he wouldn't even be taken in the first round in this draft"
You know that. And I know that. And every NBA scout knows that.
But if the same people who convinced Darius & Manny they were a mid first round lock get into his ear then it's bye-bye Trey. Unfortunately for both the player and the program the folks who tend to have maximum influence on the players decision tend to be the same folks who will happily spend hi money for him for as long as he's able to make it.
Anyone who is mad he is inquiring about his draft options (something a responsible person would do) is incredibly selfish. He had an incredible season, and the point guard class is very weak. Also, this doesn't say he's declaring.
I agree it's probably a Spartan writer trying to get his kicks in while he can.
He must have seen how well that worked out for Morris.
I'm sorry but this is why college basketball is fucking retarded
What's the opposite of everything's coming up Milhouse?
Stick around Trey. Everything's going to be cool in Ann Arbor. Enjoy college.
Opposite of everything coming up Milhouse? Nobody's going down on Milhouse?
but all an NBA scout has to look at are the last two games against "Ohio" to realize he's not ready for the NBA - neither is THJ. And that's totally fine with me.
We all know that. What we're worried about is some herpaderp agent strolling around and saying "Hey, I bet you could be a first round talent. Let's take a walk..."
I guess it also depends on the talent pool in this given year. Admittedly I have no idea how big the talent pool is from college this year, so I guess it's possible. That would be too bad, but - these are problems we want to have. Would just be nice to have them after year 3 of a player not year 1.
I don't think he's ready, but ya never know what kind of advice these kids are getting and who's giving it besides dad.
In any case I think M Basketball is heading in the right direction.
I think he's gone. Can't blame him if wants to enter the NBA with his best friend / rival Jared Sullinger.
Burke is not playing in the NBA.
I seem to remember Beilein saying last year that they encourage kids to look at their NBA possiblities each year. It may be nothing more than that.
A kid in his position will always and should look into his NBA draft prospects. Ultimately, I think the family wanting him to stay bodes well. I also think if he can even show slight improvement next year he will be in at least the same position. He is not a lottery pick right now. After that I think most picks are about the same where they will be fighting for a roster spot. Unfortunately You can't come back if you enter the draft and hopefully Trey recognizes this.
Staying at Michigan provides a certainty for his next year and certain goals. Entering the draft brings in a lot of uncertainty. Does he want to deal with the risk of playing in the D league, europe, etc in case he enters the wrong situation with the NBA? Not saying I think he wouldn't make it, he has already proven enough people wrong throughout his days. But there is that chance. Pro ball will always be there. He has a good thing going. No one to challenge his minutes, and he will have plenty of chances to increase that assist total with all the talent next year. I think he would be wise to enjoy some more time in Ann Arbor. Please stay Trey. At least until Derrick Walton shows up. Please
Worst case scenerio we reel in Ziegler
scenario be wo don't reel in Zeigler?
Reel in or not reel in, doesn't he have to sit out a year?
WHAT IS THIS BUSH LEAGUE BULLSHIT PSYCHE OUT STUFF!
Right now in a half court set he can't get to the whole without multiple moves,. hesitations, stop and go. He really doesn't have a one step blow by move that you need in the NBA yet. Evan Turner was same way. Took him 7-10 seconds to get to the hole, reverse dribble , behind the back, studder-Not happening in the league.
He is good, but I don't know if he'd be a 1st round pick. And for those asking that he call Darius Morris, no, Morris was a 2nd round pick, but still is making 1/2 $Million a year. He's going to stick in the league and make enough money for the rest of his life in just a few years of work. There's no reason to think Burke can't do just as well as Morris and he could be a 1st round pick and be guaranteed millions, if scouts start telling him he's a 1st round pick he is gone for sure.
This would devastate the U of M team for next year. Burke was the super star in the making. I'd say it's a coin toss right now if he'll be back.
Welp, for those that hate going weeks on end without some blockbuster news (recruiting, scandals at other schools, etc...) involving UM athletics...this goes to show that sometimes peace and quiet can be a damn good thing.
Here's to hoping that Trey stays and disaster is averted. Either way, we have to wish him the best if he goes, and root like hell for him if he comes back with next years class. Keep it classy UM fans.
it could lead to Burke leaving early too. If Morris stays there is no way Burke gets as much PT and no way he leaves after only one year.
If Burke leaves you can cue all the haters saying that JB runs off his best players with his demanding style. Not saying that would be true or that I don't love JB's style but this could be a potential downside.
Same story different year.
Why did Brundidge transfer again?
have him going 30th overall...in 2013. I've heard that this year's drafts didn't see him or THJ going in the first two rounds
LOSS TO OHIO U HAS TORE ARE TEAM A PART!!!
Burke specifically says "I'm coming back."
People freaking out about an article in which the Freep quotes Burke's dad as saying that Trey wants to play in the league someday and turning it into "Burke Already Drafted to NBA" are dumb. $0.02
It's hard to love again, man...and, sh*t, Smotrycz left. Doesn't anybody want to be part of this family anymore?!
The thing is - in my opinion, Trey's not anywhere near ready for the NBA. If he were to leave in a situation where it's in his best interest to leave, I'd be disappointed for Michigan basketball but feel happy for the kid. Hey, c'est la vie. But what hurts here is, if he leaves I don't see *anyone* benefitting.
Reason why he'll leave is cuz the draft is very weak for his position and he had one hell of a year. Why he should stay is to become more of a leader and have more control of the game. I think he should stay because he has a lot more to work on to improve his game and make him more more of an nba guard.
Have him give Darius a call. The NBA is hard for guards to stick.
Trey Burke is considering the draft? Color me not-fucking-shocked.
If anyone was actually naive enough to believe he wouldn't even inquire about his stock, well, shame on you. Common sense still says he stays, stop freaking out.
Why don't any of these young players think about what they are giving up?
Burke is the star of the team, he's on the front page of newspapers, he's on national TV getting interviews, and plays in front of 12,000 fans who scream his name. This is a part of his life he will never get back if he gives it up.
If there's a good chance you are going to warm the bench in the NBA for years and/or flame out, why would you give up your stardom? This might be the highlight of his basketball career, that which he has worked his whole life for. I just can't imagine giving that up when you are a middling 2nd-round draft prospect who will likely end up in the D-league for several years...
Money, Money, Money, Money................Money. Some people got to have it, some people really need it.
Although if he left, meltdowns all around.
Colton, Burndridge, and Smot I was fine with. Colton wouldn't have gotten any time. Brundridge was going to make a minimal impact. We're deep enough with our bigs to absorb Smot leaving.
Burke leaving would make my head asplode. EWZDTCFYVGUBHKIJNLM DON'T LEAVE TREY. I AM WILLING TO PAY YOU TO STAY IN SEXUAL FAVORS.
Yeah, this is me before he leaves. If he actually does, I'll be on suicide watch like they NW basketball guy after they lost to Minnesota.
BS freep just wants attention after the trasfers today and they thought this would be the perfect time to release this.
dont believe this article
Still in shock about Smot
truth to it, then Brundidge probably wouldn't be leaving. I'm calling bullsh#t on most if not all FREEP stories.
Benji Burke, Trey Burke's dad, tells us they're hearing Trey'd go 18 to 24 in the draft. They have submitted paperwork to test the NBA water
Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck.
Never underestimate the ability of (young) people to be stupid. First Manny, than Morris, now this.
Isnt going anywhere. How many 5-11 PG's do you see in the NBA with 1 year of college experience? It's not going to happen. Especially when arguably the best recruiting class is coming in.
He'll splash the water just like Denard did. He won't go anywhere.
Besides, didn't he and Tim say they were coming back after they lost to Ohio?
Are there any decent 5th year mid major PGs looking for a grad school?
Just because you're considering doesn't mean you're leaving. Isn't that what Denard and JT did after the Sugar Bowl? Or is this something really different?