It’s not happening. Kick the tires with Brady Drogosh in this class and go all in on Jaydn Davis in 2024
Going all in on a single quarterback in a recruiting class has been proven to be a mistake by Michigan.
JJ says hello
He committed early.
JJ said hello before NIL. I want to believe and be inspired to stay the UMGoBlue11 course but in the short term there is PAIN.
Yeah, jury still out on JJ. Not sure he even starts this year, so maybe slow yer roll on JJ proving anything at this point. For all anyone knows, JJ May have a meh year, gets hurt, or is fantastic. But saying JJ is proof of anything…it’s really early.
JJ had more highlights last year than anyone post Denard over the last decade. He is doing just fine.
I like Brady Drogosh - I think he is underrated. Kid is a leader / winner.
I hope he flips if Michigan offers and recruits him
Agreed. Brady's and Michigan tend to do well together.
Hoke?? Or that Tom fella?
Tom Fergodsake!
He's a huge Michigan fan so hopefully we can get him. However, I also wouldn't blame him if he sticks with Cinci since he's clearly our backup option
Unless you are the #1 guy at your position, you already know you are someone’s backup plan.
It's July...A lot can happen between now and December.
Is this something Michigan fans should be interested in or is it a foregone conclusion he's going elsewhere?
He's going elsewhere.
No idea. The fact that he didn’t commit when he was out in Eugene is a glimmer of hope. The momentum is all Oregon though. If he does choose us somehow it’s likely that he just didn’t want to go to school far from home. That was originally a limiting factor in him looking at certain schools that no longer seems to be an issue? His dad is a lifelong Michigan fan (has a pissing on OSU tattoo iirc), Devin Gardner is his trainer, and he’s been to campus loads of times so it’s not like a complete surprise if he decided to go with the hometown option but it’s not looking good
All the connections he has to Michigan cannot make-up for Weiss being a bad recruiter. Weiss may be a good positional coach, but not a good recruiter.
Even the highest degree of recruiting chops would not be enough to get these high end qbs to give up what is likely guaranteed millions to go to a school. I'm not willing to evaluate these guys as recruiters until they have the same tools in the box as the competition. Telling a kid they will help him get paid once he's on campus with no guarantees of what that could look like vs. here's 2 milly son....sign here. Michigan is trying to hit dingers out of Comerica park with wiffle ball bats while the opposition is using metal
UM fans 2021
“Yeah Gattis slept with a recruits mom”
UM fans 2022
”Wish we had someone with the charisma Gattis had”
Does his dad seriously have a UM tattoo? After reading this I’m not sure if it makes me feel like we have a legit shot or stunned that despite all of this we are still presumably running a distant third.
Stunned? I'm not going to debate the merits of how NIL is playing out but let's face it, a tattoo on dad's arm is not in the same universe as seven figures of cash on the table.
And a job offer.
His family are huge Michigan fans and according to Sam his dad absolutely has an anti-OSU tattoo. That said we have been trialing Notre Dame most of the way and after Carr committed there it just felt like Dante was looking for someplace other than Michigan to land.
Here's a hint.....
We're Forf.
ND
Oregon
Miami(YTM)
Michigan
Texas A&M might even finish above us
Oof. That not a great sign.
Look forward to the spin on this one.
He probably wasn’t really that good anyways
Dante don’t go to Oregon. Once realignment is fully complete Oregon will likely be on the outside looking in. Oregon will be lucky to play for anything of note by the time you are taking snaps under center.
I get it that NIL is a huge factor, but he's got to consider the short term future of Oregon. Will they have a conference in 2024? Will they have a TV deal in 2024. Will he ever play a marquee game? Will he ever play a game in eastern time zone? A freshman NIL deal might sound great in 2023, but could potentially be undercut over his time at Oregon. Maybe the guaranteed stability (as guaranteed as it can be) at Michigan might be the better businesses and athletic decision 4 or 5 years down the road.
The average high school kid doesn’t follow college football closely. Recruiting guys talk about this all the time. They are aware of the broad strokes of who is good and bad, but most of them just don’t give it anywhere near the level of attention they give the NFL. Conference realignment isn’t going to be on their radar. The implications of it certainly won’t be.
Four or five years down the road? LMAO!!! Four years in college is not in Dante's mind. He's thinking three years, only because the NFL hasn't changed it's rules yet. In three years, Oregon will still largely have the same schedule they have today. None of this realignment business matters to 2023 recruits. Oregon has (apparently, probably) a shitload of money on the table and an immediate starting spot if he can earn it. Michigan has neither - even if he earns playing time, it'll be mop-up duty behind Cade and JJ.
The hope was there, but I think it's time to target next year - when the fresh recruit will have a legit shot at 2 years as the starter before the NFL calls.
It is really hard to see an 18 year old, particularly one who has had adults fawning over them since before he was a freshman in high school, placing the same value in an abstraction of the future to something between $2,000,000 and $5,000,000 stacked neatly on the kitchen table. As a run of the mill schlub approaching 70, I would have the same problem.
He could just transfer in 2 years if Oregon is on the outside looking in. What he will have for sure is 2 years of pay to play money, which Michigan can't offer. Also, Michigan can't offer a stable coaching situation either. Look at it from a player's perspective, even if Harbaugh has given up on the NFL, does anyone think that Weiss is going to be the long term OC? No one wants that uncertainty and it needs to put to rest either with a coach in waiting (if Harbaugh really does want another shot at the NFL), or at least at coach in waiting as the OC.
How is Oregon’s coaching staff any more or less stable than Michigan’s?
That's just a tired meme that people keep dragging out. No coaching staff is stable. Everyone loses coaches all the time. Whoever thought the purple-faced lunatic would ever leave South Bend? Isn't that one of the pinnacles of college football coaching?
Sam just put in a crystal ball for Oregon.
No worries guys. I've read here from several well-respected posters that once this whole NIL fad runs its course say in the next 15-20 years or so Michigan will be ready to POUNCE.
Those losers at MSU, TA&M, Georgia, OSU, Alabama, USC and the rest of the suckers getting all the 4 & 5 star talent this decade are going to pretty sorry when that happens.
Not just "pounce", but pounce the "right way" with the moral high-ground.
And it will be a TRANSFORMATIONAL pounce!
Right because the only possible option is to panic over Michigan taking an incremental approach to a seismic shift in the recruiting landscape with follow-on effects that we haven’t seen shake out yet and we can’t control anyway. Seems reasonable.
Yes because this approach has worked very well for them in the past
4-star EDGE Collins Acheampong is making his decision on Friday. Supposed to be a Michigan lean. Ranked #271 overall.
I’ve never hoped for an outside the Top 250 recruit more than this one. This is the type of player who could be a David Ojabo. He is a freak. Still learning the game due to being in a poor situation with his high school, but he is a Top 50 kid.
Oregon is having a 3 kids decide on social media around 6pm ,on that day ..looks like its already set up for the Ducks...Oregon better hope they latch on somewhere--because if they dont land in BIG10 SEC,they they will become "a whos who,of the nobodies"
I’m surprised this hasn’t been a bigger talking point. I would want to know what is happening with the conference before committing to Oregon.
I suppose it doesn’t matter until signing day and by then they should know.