Predict the OSU Line
As we have little to look forward to other than parlor games, post your prediction for the OSU line. Also if anyone would be so kind to post, what was the OSU-UM line in 2008 and 2009? If not for those years I fear this will be the largest home dog UM has ever been in modern history. And potentially the largest dog, road or away, in modern history (until 2014's squad strolls into Columbus).
My prediction is the line will open at 15.5-17 (although I believe the actual score differential will be far more vast). I still have yet to wrap my mind around the possibility of UM being a 20 point home dog but I suppose it could be.
Assuming UM can somehow someway put up 13-17 pts on a "decent, not great" OSU D, even a 17 pt line is only a 30-34 OSU offensive outburst which seems "conservative" considering rivalry blood lust + Urban going for BCS title game (now a 3 team race). I had some faint home for the rush defense vs Hyde prior to Iowa game to keep the game sorta close in 1st half, but if Ross and or Morgan are out for the week, the spread might be covered by the halftime show.
EDIT: Found a Bleacher Report story showing OSU was favored by 19 in Columbus in 2008. The internets seem to have revealed the 2009 game in AA had a line of 12ish.
November 24th, 2013 at 6:27 AM ^
17 is my guess as well. And OSU will probably double it up.
I'm up $20 on the year with my gambling, so I think I'll just throw it on Ohio for shits and gigs.
November 24th, 2013 at 6:28 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 9:08 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^
"I don't know about all of you but Ohio is beatable."
I think we've all been pretty beaten up by this season. Go ahead and pencil in the mgoboard as beatable.
November 24th, 2013 at 1:22 PM ^
You've posted this on every thread and it's never not insane. Ohio State isn't coming in half-hearted. This Is Michigan fergodsakes! Of all the teams! Make a football argument. 0% chance OSU is looking past Michigan. 0. Zero.
November 24th, 2013 at 1:39 PM ^
I just really don't understand why you post here.
November 24th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^
Everyone else manages to interact with me like a normal human being. Most people understand that folks aren't immediately bad people due to where they attend college. You, however, seem to be one of those who can't seperate fandom form being a person. I've been here for three years. I don't troll. I don't kick you when you're down. What do you care? I enjoy learning about Michigan, where else is there to go?
November 25th, 2013 at 2:27 PM ^
Let's not make broad character generalizations based on literally nothing here. I didn't insult you or anyone, I asked a question.
November 24th, 2013 at 6:31 AM ^
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November 24th, 2013 at 7:38 AM ^
1969 redux.
November 24th, 2013 at 6:37 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 7:47 AM ^
Our season ticket seats will be filled by 4 Michigan fans screaming for the team all game long. It's a sure bet that I will not have a voice at 3:30 on Saturday.
November 24th, 2013 at 10:36 AM ^
I wonder how much different everyone would be looking at this game if we had held on last year. People would be saying that 'Hoke owns Ohio'
November 24th, 2013 at 6:39 AM ^
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November 24th, 2013 at 10:04 AM ^
First, it's "you're". Second, are you still in middle school? And no, the line will likely be near 20.
November 24th, 2013 at 1:26 PM ^
I could not be less pessimistic.
November 24th, 2013 at 6:42 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 6:50 AM ^
My initial response to you would be: Iowa LB > OSU LB. Iowa front 4 > OSU front 4 in rush defense while OSU front 4 better at getting pressue on QB vs Iowa. Then I remembered Northwestern and Nebraska's pedestrian defenses (aside from Gregory on Neb) and what they did to this offense, and that makes all comparisons moot.
Main thing to root for is a lack of injury on offense....and seeing if we can tally a TD on offense.
November 24th, 2013 at 10:49 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 6:53 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 6:54 AM ^
You, sir, are my new hero.
November 24th, 2013 at 7:01 AM ^
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November 24th, 2013 at 7:00 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 7:12 AM ^
It's too bad that posting board bravado won't be enough to hold OSU 26 points below their season average in conference games.
Whatever, what you're doing right now as a father—spending time with your kid—is more important than anything the Michigan football team will do this year, or any year.
November 24th, 2013 at 7:17 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 9:11 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 10:11 AM ^
Lol
November 24th, 2013 at 10:17 AM ^
Your bravado does not increase the likelihood of the team winning. You aren't giving the pregrame pep talk. We are trying to objectively assess what the line should and will be. Whatever the line ends up, yes, Michigan can still win next Saturday, no matter how unlikely, which is ultimately why they "play the game." But the purpose of a line is exactly that...to assess the percieved odds of that happening. Saying "Michigan will win, screw the line...derp, derp" does not make you a better fan, it's simply a hope we all share, one that goes against all data points from this season.
If you feel the need to post Rah-Rah rants for some sort of delusion of influencing the game's outcome (like a belief that we missed out on better coaches because of our negativity) or to identify yourelf as a "true fan," then so be it. It does not make the rest of us pussies or less of a fan because we see Michigan as a far inferior product on the field, a sloppy, poorly coached team that will have a very difficult time competing against a quality opponent.
Trying to predict the line is an exercise in objectivity, not a guage of one's fandom.
November 24th, 2013 at 7:20 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 6:58 AM ^
Using the Sagarin numbers that are on the site right now (these will update on Monday, I think), you would predict that that the differential would be 12.87 points in favor of Ohio State. I have to think it will be somewhat wider than this on Monday. We had this discussion a couple weeks ago in another thread about how the Iowa game might be the deciding factor in whether we walk into The Game a two score underdog or not. Well, we watched yesterday....
November 24th, 2013 at 7:02 AM ^
Opening 10, goes up to 13.5
November 24th, 2013 at 7:16 AM ^
3 offensive TD's in four games.
Vegas would be smarter to not take a line
November 24th, 2013 at 7:17 AM ^
it will open around 11 to 12 and move up to 13 or 14...
I think michigan covers...
jdon
November 24th, 2013 at 7:29 AM ^
I would assume we lose by more than 14 for sure, probably by more than 21 to be quite honest
We do not have to worry about not being elite, hell, we are not even a good team with Hoke as the HC
Sad to say
November 24th, 2013 at 7:44 AM ^
... per Phil Steele's preseason magazine, and his web site:
2010 UM +17
2009 UM +11.5
2008 UM +20
1999 UM -11
1998 UM +10
1996 UM +17
Steele's data ends in 1993, but there were probably several double-digit spreads in UM's favor in the late '80s and early '90s. In the games above, the favorite is 5-1.
November 24th, 2013 at 8:35 AM ^
don't be caring about the spread! I hate OSU!
Go Blue!
November 24th, 2013 at 8:00 AM ^
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November 24th, 2013 at 8:48 AM ^
I have to believe its going to be 15.
All the crap that has been trotted out on the field, you gotta believe Borges has saved something special for this week. Something? Please??
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