Power5 Conferences to release universal testing/quarantine standards
https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/power-5-conferences-covid-testing-college-football
"College football players who test positive for COVID-19 this fall will be required to miss at least 10 days of competition, and that number is even higher—a full two weeks—for those who are found to have had contact with a person who tested positive."
and
"The document details several conditions that would result in a school discontinuing competition and/or complete seasons: 1) lack of ability to isolate new positive cases or quarantine high-contact risk cases on campus; 2) inability to perform weekly testing; 3) campus-wide or local community test rates that are considered unsafe by local public health officials; 4) inability to perform adequate contact tracing; 5) local public health officials state that there is an inability for the hospital infrastructure to accommodate a surge in COVID-related hospitalizations."
(edited at 8:49pm to make the link clickable---rob f)
If these are the guidelines, I'm pretty sure that only teams with ... optimistic ... local health officials will have a shot at completing a season, as #3 is a standard that might not be met anywhere in the US right now.
And we thought Big Ten refs were bad... Just wait.
https://covidactnow.org/?s=712117
Looking at this, Michigan looks in better shape than most. The SEC would have lots of problems.
Except that SEC teams, their governors and their fans largely care WAY more about “footbaw” than they do about public health.
Teams in big cities (Northwestern, OSU) could have major issues with issue #3.
I'm not sure what's considered "unsafe," but Illinois processed 43,000 tests yesterday, which I believe is its highest count so far. Consistently well over 30,000 daily tests for at least 6 weeks now.
Unless someone comes up with a Covid test everyone can use that can give results within an hour, there won't be a football season.
Unless someone comes up with a Covid test everyone can use that can give results within an hour, there won't be a football season.
The million dollar question is why does FBS football specifically the Power 5 give a shit about what the NCAA has to say?
The NCAA doesn't sanction the College Football Playoff. Technically the NCAA Football champion is North Dakota State.
I really don't understand this notion of the NCAA as an enforcement mechanism. People act like they have agents in black jackets with big, bold yellow letters on the back, ready to swoop in on a moment's notice and ENFORCE something.
Because it's a central authority that can disseminate information and create protocols for all member institutions. This allows all concerned to know that data they share and policies they write will work inside of a framework that their peers can understand.
I'm not sure why this is difficult to grasp. It is the entire point of organizing bodies around the world.
Dude, they haven't done anything of the sort for 4 months.
I don't disagree, but it isn't really relevant. The schools want legal cover, and the NCAA is a layer of that for them. And they want someone to adjudicate their different reopening plans.
Just because the NCAA doesnt sanction the Playoff does not mean they are not the governing body of these schools and of football. The eligibility and much more is dictated by the NCAA. It's not as if they just slap their name on it and have nothing to do with it all year long.
But it's an arbitrary authority. The players and universities could easily make a side deal without their input.
Listen to this man... he knows a thing or two about having the "real power" behind a paper screen of nominal authority.
It's not so much what the NCAA has to say but more that the Power 5 drafted the plan and are now getting the NCAA involved primarily to have them on board in order to give it more the look of a uniform standard. If they'd waited for the NCAA to take the lead on this, we'd all be SOL.
"These requirements are part of a medical document the Power 5 conferences have drafted to add uniformity to virus testing protocols and response procedures. Sports Illustrated obtained a copy of a draft of the document from July 8. The document is not finalized, but is expected to be released soon by the Power 5 and the NCAA, which are working in concert to create universal, minimum testing standards."
Now that the Power 5 did the heavy lifting to make it actually happen, together with the NCAA they're doing the fine tuning of the testing standards and likely a few other things.
This seems overbearing to me, and I doubt there can be much of a season with them in place. That being said, there are really complex competing issues here, and I don’t think there is a “right and wrong” answer. I have come to take a “what is best for the kids” perspective with regard to almost anything in life right now because kids are damaged as all hell right now and I don’t blame them. The problem is, I can’t answer that question anymore with any degree of confidence. I want what is best for the players, but I have no clue what that is at this point.
Its a nice night for a fire in Michigan if anybody else was so inclined. A few bugs but a nice still night with good temps.
Take care all.
I never thought one would need the SEC commissioner to explain something to a Michigan fan.
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey noted these issues Monday in an interview on the Paul Finebaum Show. It's not about the death rate or the illness' impact on young people—it's about overwhelmed public health departments. “We need to see the ability for our hospitals and health care systems to manage what’s happening with COVID-19,” Sankey says
https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/power-5-conferences-covid-testing-college-football
You are a perfect example of a sea lion.
"This seems overbearing to me"
Very on brand for ijohnb and this is how far I got into reading his post.
That's a lot of words used to say "no 2020 season", but so be it.
There is no way schools are going to be able to meet these standards.
That’s my reaction as well. Anybody who thinks it’s possible to successfully quarantine 18-22 year old males on college campuses so that they have no contact with other infected students or community members for ten or more weeks is laughably delusional.
It’s equally delusional to think that there aren’t multiple coaches in P5 conferences who will cover up infections of star players before big games.
Just expand how many players we can have on the roster so we can have a walk on freshman theater major come in at left tackle if needed. All we need is enough bodies to field a team if a starter gets ill.
Forget that. You have left tackles playing cheerleader who can get dressed in a pinch.
Honestly, would make for pretty amazing games.
A huge LOL at #4... That one is a given.
Just cancel the season and get it over with. Stop dragging it out.
Any team in Georgia will be clearly disqualified
I assume the P5 got together and did this without the NCAA? If the P5 got together and did this themselves, we can't be the only ones wondering what the NCAA's purpose is exactly
3) campus-wide or local community test rates that are considered unsafe by local public health officials
This one is the kicker. And, what is that unsafe test rate standard? The only way I see a season happening is if the powers that be change their threshold for positive tests, assuming they are asymptomatic. And, I don't think they will nor should they. But, once everyone's on campus there is no way there is not a surge beyond what this safe rate is IMHO.