Positive Vibes
So, I watched a superior team out play another and still lose the game today. Why? Because they made a couple timely plays and caught just about every break. I refuse to point blame or say a coach should be fired. I think we played well enough to win. I hate to go “any given Sunday” on everyone. But the inches are all around to win the game. A vast majority were out of our hand. I personally think we got screwed. I’ll say it. Not one drive MSU had was not aided by some drive extending bullshit. Us on the other hand, earned every yard. I felt the same way I did after harbaughs first game against Utah. We lost that one, but, i felt optimism after that one too. Do you think we aren’t the better team watching that game? I mean, we lost on the scoreboard and there has to be something said for that. But, we’re better. Clearly. So just chill and pump the breaks on hot takes.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:44 PM ^
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October 31st, 2021 at 2:06 AM ^
Your schtick is so fucking tired
October 30th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
I frigddn love you myyyyy mahnnn
October 31st, 2021 at 9:24 AM ^
Getting chlamydia from an actual koala is more enjoyable than this schtick anymore.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
I'll be positive tomorrow. Tonight is a night for hating.
October 31st, 2021 at 8:33 AM ^
You are so right. I feel much better than yesterday about this team and Harbaugh. We knew the young QBs are going to have growing pains and it showed. We still had a chance to win. Hats off to MSU for pulling it off. But they had help from refs. RZ offense, untimely turnovers, weak secondary made this. But refs making big mistakes and not calling hold has made this game difficult to evaluate. There is no telling how well we would have done if our DL was not held on every single play. Even our secondary was held and was not called. Now I believe that this team is going to be able to score and this offense is capable of doing that. Let us see what happens rest of the year. I remember saying a while back that I wouldn't be surprised if we lose to MSU but win every other game in B1G because of the boom or bust nature of MSU.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:46 PM ^
This post has been written far too many times under Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2021 at 3:22 AM ^
Yup. You're both right. We did have the better players, but we had the wrong approach. This one is 100% on the coaches. The issues with the defensive subs was a pretty good representation of that. Either MSU spotted an advantage with our defensive substitution patterns and exploited our coaches, or MSU did something they always do and our coaches weren't prepared. It's indefensible either way.
October 31st, 2021 at 5:28 AM ^
The truth is Tucker is doing in 2 years what Harbaugh has failed to do in 7
October 31st, 2021 at 7:35 AM ^
That is bullshit and far from the truth.
Tucker was able to recruit an entire team off the transfer portal due to all the rule changes and he got damn lucky to find Walker.
Take Walker off MSU and they are an average team to say the least.
1 person is doing all the damage over there.
There used to be rules in place to avoid this type of situation.
Now, not only do the players not have to sit out a year, they can sign a fake contract and collect $$$.
October 31st, 2021 at 8:32 AM ^
Harbaugh had the same opportunity to do so and did not take advantage. And don't give me the academic BS as Juwan Howard has had zero issue getting guys transferred in
October 31st, 2021 at 9:00 AM ^
1) Harbaugh did bring in a couple of transfers
2) It is much easier in bball since, given the number of players, 1 transfer can make a much more of an impact and bringing in 1 transfer is much easier than bringing in 8-10.
3) Tucker brought in many transfers. Given he also brought in a hs recruiting class that means some pretty significant roster management occurred. There is pretty significant push back at Michigan when people get processed out in recruiting. Can you imagine the push back if multiple scholarship players were effectively cut?
October 31st, 2021 at 10:43 AM ^
Tucker hit the transfer lottery. That is not usually how it happens. Guys are typically in the transfer portal for a reason and it's not because they are Heisman finalist.
Michigan's offense looked better yesterday. Walker played an amazing game and his patience running the ball and then accelerating when he sees the hole is next leverl. Thorne hit an NFL level throw on 4th and 4. MSU made some great winning plays, so you tip your hat to those efforts. MSU has nothing to do with the officiating. If Michigan got every single contraversial or close call no one on here would bitch about that (however the good fortune would probably be acknowledged). It is really unfortunate to be on the rough end of every close call.
Harbaugh should and will continue to get heat for losing to highly ranked teams. Losing to rivals. Losing on the road. But if you don't think this team looks far better and is on an upward trajactory then I think you may be too poisoned to Harbaugh at this point to be objective. I will be very curious how the team comes out next week and how the environment in the stadium will look like.
Go Blue!
October 31st, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^
A lot of problems would be solved with Playoff expansion.
We don’t win the Big Ten in basketball every year but at this point we’re a good enough team to make the Tourney and at that point we’be been a good enough team to make a run.
Harbaugh has something like a .716 win percentage now even after the loss yesterday. Let’s see how the rest of the season plays out if he beats the teams he should beat and then beats PSU on the road that really is an excellent season. Wisconsin is not a bad team. PSU is not a bad team. We made enough plays to win the game yesterday. We also didn’t make enough plays.
if we can play well against OSU with all of the above that is a great season and does show growth.
October 31st, 2021 at 10:19 AM ^
Ummmmm…..Harbaugh was 8-0 in year too as well.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:49 PM ^
Go back on here and search some of the after game threads from the games in 2015 and 2017 and they will sound exactly like this. "Well if O'Neil didnt drop the snap and the refs didnt throw out Bolden we win" or "If O'Korn doesnt throw 4 picks we win". Dont people get tired of playing this if this and if that game after 7 years of the same type of losses?
This post is Michigan football in a nutshell. "We may have lost but we're clearly the better team". The same attitude plagues the program and it's why it will never win anything in the current state.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:17 AM ^
Normally, I’d say you’re way off.
But right now? You’re spot on. Michigan Football is trash. Absolute garbage. I’ve defended Harbaugh for years. I just can’t anymore. Michigan State is overinflated garbage. And Michigan lost to them. Michigan just sucks now.
The ceiling? 10-2. Every year. You’ll be 10-2 every year… but the losses will always be Michigan State and Ohio State. You can’t fire Harbaugh because who do you get? Go hire Matt Campbell and go 7-5/8-4 every year? No thanks.
October 31st, 2021 at 9:06 AM ^
I'm confused. You say you can't defend Harbaugh. But, then you say you can't fire him because his replacement would be worse which seems to imply Harbaugh is the best we can do. Thus you are, in a round about way, defending Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:05 PM ^
? I’m not defending him. I’m accepting that Michigan football is complacent and fine with being 10-2 with rarely beating Michigan State, and never beating Ohio State. Indiana had little problem holding Walker to 84 yards. Nebraska held Walker to 61 yards. Michigan is supposed to have a good defense and we just let him get 190+. Michigan is a Tier II football program now, and Harbaugh isn’t going to change that. Now I’m not saying fire him, because there are no “proven options” that are an upgrade. Just accept the fact the block M now stands for Mediocre and move on. Michigan will never be in the playoff conversation. They won’t even be in the Conference Championship conversation when the Calendar flips from October to November. That is why I called them “trash”. Are they actual trash? No. Just pissed that Harbaugh can’t figure it out, but guys like Mel Tucker can. This program is cursed. And not even Jim can fix it.
October 31st, 2021 at 10:16 AM ^
I agree with some of your takes but the team is not garbage. Far from it.
October 31st, 2021 at 11:17 AM ^
Bye! ?
October 31st, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^
Michigan football is trash. Michigan football has a 10-2 ceiling. Every year. You're fucking welcome to that math.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:33 AM ^
You are tired at different people expressing similar sentiments or thoughts at times over a seven year time period, yet you feel the need to repeat yourself multiple times after every game in multiple threads (and again within the same thread)?
October 31st, 2021 at 12:50 AM ^
Maybe it's not Michigan football but Michigan fandom.
October 31st, 2021 at 6:06 AM ^
Well, both can get awfully annoying.
October 31st, 2021 at 10:24 AM ^
If being a fan is so fucking miserable for you, why do you do it? I'm so sick of all the fucking negativity around here. I love Michigan football and basketball, and have for 40 years, and will continue. Holy shit this "fan base" is exhausting.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:56 PM ^
Aren't people who hold this opinion tired of spinning every deflating Harbaugh loss as aCtUaLlY a PoSiTiVe DeVeLoPmEnT? Who gives a fuck if Michigan is the better team if unforced errors lose them the game?
October 31st, 2021 at 12:43 AM ^
Here is what you said earlier today (3:37 p.m.): "F*** this entire team. F*** them." (You didn't use asterisks.) Frankly, I don't see why this kind of behavior is allowed on the board. You are not a good fan. Your posting only hurts the team and the program. Our message boards are filled with dumpster fire posters. Please, find a new team. Go root for Alabama. You will be much happier. Follow your bliss.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:14 AM ^
1) Your response doesn't address anything I said.
2) Imagine being so obsessed with someone that you go through their posting history to find one comment, delete 90% of it, strip it of the context of what was happening in the game at the time, and then use that as an excuse to climb on a soap box about how they are a Bad Fan. No, random comments from me in the midst of a 3,000-comment thread is not hurting the team or the program. And you don't get to decide which team I get to root for. If you don't like what people post on this board and are so easily offended by the word "fuck," why don't you find somewhere else to go? Follow your bliss.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:59 AM ^
This board has become a cesspool. And yes, the small number of posters who feel the need to spam the board with their toxic bile is a huge reason. There are a handful of them out in full force today. And no, the word "fuck" itself doesn't offend me. But saying on the public message board of the most popular Michigan football site :"F*** this entire team. F*** them."? Yeah, given that we remove posts (and posters), I think that is the kind of thing that is worth censoring. And yes, I think that is the mark of bad fan. Did the players do something unethical today? Some cheap shot? Did they give up? I don't think college football players who lose a close, hard fought game deserve to be treated like that by their own "fans." Of course I can't decide what team you choose "to root for." But I sure hope it's not Michigan going forward. (What you are doing isn't really "rooting for" Michigan. Go stand by the tunnel as they walk off the field next time and tell them that to their faces if think these comments are okay for a "fan" to make about their college team's players.)
October 31st, 2021 at 4:02 AM ^
go root for the local high school team then.
October 31st, 2021 at 8:53 AM ^
This is a good point. The local high school team is statistically more likely to win the Big Ten East than Jim Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^
You just proved the point. Good riddance
October 31st, 2021 at 4:01 AM ^
He didn't use asterisks because you can fucking swear on the internet.
October 30th, 2021 at 11:59 PM ^
It'll only be positive vibes once football season ends and we stop hearing from State fans. Just get me to eggnog season
October 31st, 2021 at 12:07 AM ^
No. Once eggnog season begins I’ll be up in Michigan and seeing my Sparty BIL. Then I’ll have to relive this shit all over again.
Fuck it. I’m staying down here for Christmas.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:06 AM ^
Fair enough, tho you at least get the last laugh saying you slept with his sibling, so evens out a bit.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
Yeah, MSU may have won, but your sister really likes it in the ass.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:02 AM ^
Loss is a loss. Can never be happy with that. However, the rest of the Big Ten season will be a war of attrition. It is far from over. We need to recover next week and move on. We found our QB. This is the Cade I was expecting to see. Gamer, extending plays, good throws, able to run just enough. Andrel Anthony has size and speed that could be powerful. Corners held up well again, secondary had a few difficult picks just slip through. Need to stop the long runs from happening and get lined up on defense quicker, including substitutions. Also, still dropping too many passes unless your last name is Anthony or All.
Shore up the weaknesses, build on the strengths, and don’t lose this game twice. Aside from Georgia and Alabama, the rest of college football is a jumbled up mess of parity.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:04 AM ^
This post should be stickied.
Awesome take and I 100% agree man. I think in a losing effort Michigan has found its QB and a great receiver in Andrel.
Time to get the running game going and I believe Michigan can be that dangerous team that starts upsetting soon.
October 31st, 2021 at 7:37 AM ^
I would love to agree but I expect Michigan to run it 85 times and Cade to be 13-27 for 124 yards. Anthony is targeted twice and he does one end around. It ends up being a close game.
Im firmly in the Fire Harbaugh camp. His old school ways are the program’s Achilles.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:04 AM ^
I know it is just a game…so why do I feel so bad?
October 31st, 2021 at 12:16 AM ^
I must be getting old. I found today's game more entertaining than frustrating. Sure, the end result sucked, but it was fun to watch.
There's way too much self-pity on this blog.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:33 AM ^
Right there with you, Putin. It was a hell of a game to watch. If I were just a neutral observer I certainly would’ve walked away thinking I got my money’s worth.
October 31st, 2021 at 12:54 AM ^
Which makes it different from most Michigan Michigan State games. This wasn't the same game Michigan plays every year. It was two teams in the top 10, and that's how the game played out. Maybe Michigan isn't stuck in the past; maybe it's the fans who are stuck in the past.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:38 AM ^
...or maybe are fans who are stuck in their own misery.
With a number of them & the vitriol and/or doom-and-gloom some have been posting nonstop since mid-afternoon, I honestly think that's the case for some folks on the MGoBoard.
October 31st, 2021 at 9:50 AM ^
There's some strange PTSD where they feel like any amount of bad play or a loss means the worst part of our history is going to repeat itself over and over. If they could just look at this season without rehashing the past, they'd see we're doing really well so far.
October 31st, 2021 at 11:30 PM ^
Except that they embrace their own misery so tightly that they block out anything that might interfere with their narrative.
I rewatched a large part of yesterday's game this afternoon rather than watch the Lions and for the most part enjoyed it even though I knew the ultimate outcome. I also enjoyed it more than I enjoyed any of my several brief visits to moderate the board today. The angst, negativity, and anger of many "fans", 30+ hours after the end of yesterday's game, is more ugliness than it's worth subjecting myself to.
Not that I'm at all happy that we lost; instead, it's that once I look past the defensive substitution penalties that are correctable and especially the undeserved ref screw job on several bad calls and non-calls, I see a Michigan team that would beat this year's state team most days and actually looks capable of running the table the rest of the regular season.
October 31st, 2021 at 1:08 AM ^
I thought the game was super entertaining but dammit at the end of the day I'm still a Michigan fan and I'm salty about it.
I've been a dick tonight. Tomorrow will be better
October 31st, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^
It was a super entertaining game to watch.
Losing absolutely sucks but you deal with it. Worse is the feeling that there is a corrupt or bias official in the review booth and that makes me feel shitty about college football.