Our poor rival

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Illinois, that is. I see the line for Illinois at OSU this weekend is OSU -41. I don't think I've ever seen a spread that large. The O/U is 53.5, which is weird because it implies that Illinois will score.

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ThadMattasagoblin

November 16th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

Urban always runs the score up in these type of games to overinflate the value of his team. When December comes, the playoff committee will be saying look how much they beat Rutgers, Nebraska, Maryland, UNLV, and Illinois by.

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TIMMMAAY

November 16th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^

Don't do that. Either of the things you said there. 

Dude is a hell of a coach, as much as I hate it. He's also been fairly classy since coming to OSU. Respect where due, dude. And jouvenile nick names are just that. 

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FranklinHatchett

November 16th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^

Relax dude he doesn't like a rival coach, not shocking. It's not like he put a real hit out on him. Fairly classy u say? Ring.... yeah that was my wife she needs me to pick up some milk. Classy you say? Don't worry Mikey your RB coach will never leave you, let alone tomorrow.

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ijohnb

November 16th, 2017 at 3:59 PM ^

don't feel like I hate Urban Meyer as much as I should based on the way a lot of people seem to feel about him.  He just hasn't done anything that I really remember that has personally made me dislike him.  I hate Ohio State, so don't like their coach, but nothing more than that.  I can't think of one thing he has said or done regarding Michigan that I have found offensive, sarcastic, in poor taste, anything.  In fact, he is often very complimentary regarding Michigan (kind of more so than he should be based on the results).

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SpilledMilk

November 16th, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^

Meyer has been fairly classy towards us since he's been in Columbus. He displays hella respect for The Rivalry

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FranklinHatchett

November 16th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

Ohio st is not going to play hard after they are up 21-0 four minutes in. They will rest to get ready for us.

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GordonG

November 16th, 2017 at 3:33 PM ^

...we need an over-confident bunch of suckeyes coming to the

Big House.

then we will

...SHOCK THE WORLD !!!!

Go Blue !!

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BeatOSU52

November 16th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^

As a better myself,  I may bet on Illinois with the points...  my theory is OSU will purposely play poorly and not come close to covering, because Urban Meyer (to his respect) has an excellent track-record after bad games where they dominate the following week.    ... Let's hope that's not how it plays out, though, of course.  

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Bigly yuge

November 16th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^

You’re not totally wrong but, The spread actually has nothing to do with how much vegas thinks a team will win by. When vegas puts out a spread they’re putting out a number with the goal of getting equal amounts of motivation net on both sides. If vegas is able to get even money on both sides they cannot lose bc of the juice. The spread gets adjusted as money comes in throughout the week. If you have a good set of power ratings you can really find an edge in certain games. It’s all mathematics.

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TrueBlue2003

November 16th, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^

the spread usually ends up being a highly accurate prediction of how much a given team wins by.  So while you are correct that the line is set in an attempt to get equal money on both sides, the results in essentially the same thing.

Hence saying "Vegas expected score" is correct if you consider "Vegas" to be the betting market that bookies simply react to as opposed the bookies setting the lines according to their expectations (which they don't necessarily do in the end, as you point out). 

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rob f

November 17th, 2017 at 2:32 AM ^

I read recently just how bad a situation he walked into at Illinois following four years of Tim Beckmann. Though I don't remember the exact #'s, under Beckmann the Illini never had a recruiting class above middle-of-the-pack MAC level, with the highest ranked class of his four being ranked 53rd in FBS (Division I). Follow that with a hastily thrown together class when Lovie was hired to replace interim coach Bill Cubit, and that essentially means Lovie started out with the smoldering remnants of five straight disastrous recruiting classes. Now I'm not at all a Lovie Smith fan---after all, he coached the hated Chicago Bears---but very few coaches would be able to win immediately with the mess he inherited.

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Don

November 16th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

From the very first moment I heard he'd been hired I thought that it was another stupid move by Illinois, and nothing has happened since to make me think otherwise.

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Don

November 16th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^

Dave Wannstedt, Bill Callahan, Jim Mora, Al Groh, Mike Riley are more the rule than the exception. I know Charlie Weis was never a head coach in the NFL, but he tried to position himself as being as knowledgeable as one. The number of NFL guys with little or no college coaching experience who made a successful transition to the college game is extremely small.

Smith hadn't coached in college for twenty years when the Bears hired him, and that means he had virtually no real contacts in high schools for recruiting. He was reasonably successful with the Bears but failed at Tampa Bay, and I don't think his name or reputation was sufficiently golden to automatically make HS kids want to play for him based on his resume. Coaching pros is very different from coaching 19-yr old kids too.

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