Otis Reese says he experienced racism at UGA
I don't know if these accusations are true, but I do know he wasn't given an immediate eligibility waiver after he transferred.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:59 AM ^
So to escape racism he transferred to...Ole Miss.
Riiiiiiiight.
8.3.4September 23rd, 2020 at 12:02 PM ^
There's no racism in Mississippi...they just changed their state flag to remove the portion that had the Confederate symbol. The racism is nonexistent now
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
Sources say that the flag change closed the deal for Otis. He was overwhelmed by how brave that was. Paired with the chance of being led by the moral compass that is Lane Kiffin, can you blame him?
September 23rd, 2020 at 9:25 PM ^
Trivia: The flags of Florida and Alabama are clearly derived from the Confederate Battle Flag. But I guess it's subtle enough that no one really cares. And the state flag of Georgia is essentially the original flag of the Confederacy (not the better-known battle flag). But no one knows enough history to be offended.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:05 PM ^
idiots don't wave around the Georgia flag and claim its their "heritage" either.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
Let me blow your mind here. He is from Georgia, was offered the opportunity to leave and attend Michigan, but instead chose the home state school, where he encountered racism from the cops, so he transferred Ole Miss.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^
I don't understand how this "blows the mind" of anyone? He claims he encountered racism at one place, so he is transferring to another place that is notorious for racism to the point where their school is named after what "darkies" called their slavemaster's wife.
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September 23rd, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
It's his home state. He just came to this realization his freshman year in college. Come on man, really? He's never experienced racism before last year, and it was so bad, he left his home state. That's the argument for the immediate eligibility waiver.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
seems that you're still missing the irony in his possible landing spot.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^
The point
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Your head
8.3.4September 23rd, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
- It being his home state doesn't really mean anything. Georgia is not a small state and his hometown is 3-4 hours away from Athens. Similar to driving from Cadillac to AA.
- He never said he hadn't experienced racism before last year, just that he experienced racism on campus from the police in the last year and that this is a primary reason for transferring. Is it true? An embellishment? Who knows. It's certainly not a great look for UGA with Reese and Fields citing racism or racial insensitivity as reasons for leaving UGA, but that's also beside the point of this particular back-and-forth.
- As for leaving his home state, I guess he theoretically could've gone to GT, but would you be shocked that a kid from Michigan would leave UM and transfer out of state? I really don't see your logic here, which seems to hinge on this "home state" factor.
September 24th, 2020 at 7:32 AM ^
You're being kind, Andrew. A bunch of clowns in the posts above you wanted to diss the kid and did so. Never mind that the Reese's testimony suggests he's got an IQ twenty-plus points higher than theirs, or that any number of factors besides "Michigan duh" go into a decision like where a talented player is best going to display his talents (opportunity they will never have). If Reese's testimony is an indication, he would have done better in the classroom than they manage on message boards.
Sometimes one feels obliged to challenge them. But mostly it's best to leave them here chattering among themselves, where they're relatively harmless.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:51 PM ^
Seems like he is taking the term "Reverse racism" and getting it backwards.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I mean we just had this whole discussion about the state flag of Mississippi containing the confederate flag and all this history of racism at Ole Miss dating back a hundred years or more and then he transfers to them. At the very least he is grossly misinformed, at most he is lying about his reason for transfer.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
Or, get this, Mississippi hasn't had national cases where:
1) Arbery gets killed on video, because he was jogging while black and
2) Cops were fired or suspended in ATL for pulling young black folks out of a car during a protest and beating the fuck out of them.
Appeal to tradition aside, racism is everywhere, including in the state of Michigan. Aren't students theoretically "safer" from the racism on a college campus, since colleges emphasize diversity as a key tenet of learning? Reese did not transfer to the state of Mississippi; he transferred to the college. He isn't out in the backwoods getting pulled over by the local KKK (just as UM players are "safer" from the militias and cults and KKK that make up Michigan, and so on and so on).
Racism is everywhere, so trying to mock Reese for staying in the South "cuz they're racists and we aren't up North" doesn't fly. Try focusing on the fact that he's encountered a specific racist act in one place that makes it unsafe, whereas he has not experienced the same fearful racist act in the other racist state.
His argument is just as valid when one considers that racist cops gonna have racist cop friends, so he'd want away from that specific jurisdiction where he's been targeted.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Did he get pulled over by campus cops or local cops? By your own argument racism is everywhere, so each school should be held responsible for the actions of the cops in that city or state?
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:19 PM ^
Wasn’t Partridge (who is now at Miss) his primary recruiter at M?
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:23 PM ^
Yes, this is most likely the reason for him landing at Ole Miss.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:30 PM ^
Black Lives Matter!
Who gives a fuck about hispanic and white lives.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
Black Lives Matter just as much as everyone else’s, and yet they are killed at a disproportionate rate compared to other races, so let’s hold police accountable for their mistakes and for the training and systems that lead to those mistakes.
That’s one way to put it, but a shorter version is, “Black Lives Matter.”
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^
Love the jags who neg and refuse to comprehend this very, very simple concept.
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^
they are killed at a disproportionate rate compared to other races
Well if you commit over 50% of violent crime, and you are only 13% of the population, you will be killed more often. There is just no way around those numbers.
So yeah, disproportionate violent crime, disproportionate rate killed.
There is nothing racist about these statements.
Yes, cops make mistakes, some are power trippers, some are actually racist, so let's get those types out of the force.
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:10 PM ^
Except they don't commit over 50% of all violent crime, They are arrested for just over 50% of homicides, which is entirely different.
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:15 PM ^
MFun,
50% of violent crime according to a judicial system that shoves poor inner city blacks into the prison system for 15 years for the same crime an entitled privileged white kid gets 6 months of community service for - because one gets a first year public attorney and the other gets daddy to pay for a high priced private attorney? Not to mention the private prison systems that NEED occupants to hit their revenue numbers and the judges they have paid off to incarcerate these under-represented individuals.
Nobody is actually asking you to have empathy for others or to understand their reality (that seems way above your emotional capacity). But an attempt to be intellectually honest and step out of your Fox News reality, instead of cherry-picking a statistic that is flawed and biased, would be a good first step towards intellectual honesty.
Inner city black hooked on crack = War on drugs, 15 years in jail - if not shot on the scene for being dangerous
Poor rural whites hooked on unprescribed codien or meth = opioid epidemic / public health crisis - handcuffed and sent to hospital
September 24th, 2020 at 12:14 AM ^
Re: the attorney comment. Some attorneys are better than others. Public defenders don't make much. Experienced attorneys have financial incentive to go into private practice for many reasons rather than being public defenders. One of those reasons is the very real need to provide for their own families.
I am very sorry, but not everyone is going to be able to have very best attorney. For those that can afford a private attorney, not all will be able to hire the best due to financial reasons. For those that rely on public defenders, I am sorry, but we cannot force more experienced attorneys into indentured servitude to become public defenders.
If you truly have an issue with this, then I suggest making a very generous donation to a public defenders office or a pro bono service.
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:27 PM ^
I will never understand the goal of using these stats in this discussion.
At best, you are highlighting how there is a broader problem in our society, which furthers the point of the Black Lives Matter movement as something is wrong to lead to these disproportionate numbers.
At worst, your goal is to make it solely the fault of the race, meaning what? That they are inherently more violent? I hope I don't need to explain the problem with this line of thinking.
In the end, either way, your point actually supports the need for the movement. The problem goes way beyond bad apples. Someone with that much power needs much more training than they currently get, or they need additional resources to handle certain things they are not trained for. A boot camp and 4-6 months of training is not enough.
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:47 PM ^
There are a lot of things wrong that lead to those stats.
The violent culture glorifying drugs, guns, and treating women like play things, poor education, jobs, lack of respect for authority, fatherless homes, all of these things need to be addressed but nobody wants to REALLY try to figure them out.
First we have to admit all of these, and more, contribute to those disproportionate numbers but I don't hear that. All I hear is "police are bad" and so let's defund, which is the opposite of what we need to do.
And "the movement" is directly linked to the organization that is anti-capitalist, pro-defund police, pro-reparations, pro-socialism. Listen to them, they are telling you that directly. The burn it down mentality does not impress me. It shows gross ignorance. Not surprised given what they have been teaching the past 20 years.
September 23rd, 2020 at 4:32 PM ^
Maybe if you expanded your information sources you'd be more well-versed in the mountain of research and advocacy in this area.
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=racial+disparity+in+criminal+justice
September 23rd, 2020 at 6:08 PM ^
“All I hear is...” has a direct correlation to where you attempt to pull your information from, and based on the information you are “hearing” you subscribe to a specific set of “news” outlets. You will continue to hear exactly what you have been hearing, until you decide you want to try to think for yourself and read between the lines. No one on this blog can help you with that.
the movement is bi-directionally linked often you choose to view it that way; or, it’s more uni-directionally linked as the movement began for freedom from oppression and racism, and the other anti-whatever’s you are mentioning have supported and backed the movement as a result. There is extremism in all walks of politics, at both ends of the spectrum. Just because you align with one and refuse to even listen or think about the considerations and points of the other doesn’t mean that life is black and white (no pun), nor does it mean that other people are wrong. Unfortunately for you, you will continue to suffer a mental handicap until you decide to grow up and think for yourself. Most people don’t. Hence the state of politics in this country, and, dare I say, the reason they are not allowed on this board.
September 24th, 2020 at 12:17 AM ^
There is soooooo much wrong with this post. I can’t even begin to pity you. The sad part is you are probably willfully this way.
September 24th, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^
You really need a deep dive in US history as to why the crime rate is higher in black/poor communities starting with the fact it was illegal for blacks to do virtually anything for advancement for centuries meaning crime became a way of life for some. People will figure out a way to survive.
Once culturally ingrained it’s next to impossible to unlearn and this includes crime as laws forbid black literacy, land or business ownership among many other things. They were hanged and tortured for asking for pay or defending themselves vs a white assailant. In short , when excluded from the mainstream an underground culture/ economy will develop with Values opposite the norm.
Stop being so self centered and put yourself in someone else’s shoes; it’s evidence of an evolved human.
September 25th, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^
MFun,
Since you brought up statistics, I figured you'd benefit from learning actual statistics. If we look at violent crimes comitted by race in America in 2018 (which is the most current data we have). For this exercise, I am including murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, aggravated assault, and simple assault. The total number of those crimes that individuals were arrested for those crimes were 1,471,310. White people were responsible for 935,450 (63%) of that total, while black people were responsible for 480,170 (32%) of those crimes.
https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2
It is very irresponsible for you to spout out numbers that simply aren't correct. Please take the time to look past your bias and actually learn about others in this community that we call America and you might start to understand what others go through. Others have already talked to you about the disparities in the judicial system, so I won't. From your comment, you could use some understanding in your life instead of what is coming across as pocketed hate! Have a good day!
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:11 PM ^
So you would've had an issue with a Jewish Lives Matter movement in late 1930s/early 1940s Eastern Europe? It's a movement to highlight injustices in a community.
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^
Which of the three words in Black Lives Matter says anything about the relative worth of any other life?
Or does none of that matter and you just want to be an absolute asshole because it makes you feel better?
September 23rd, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^
Makes no sense whatsoever.
September 24th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
I guess you missed the part where he said it wasn't just the racism, but the fact that the coaches never addressed it and he feels the coaches at Ole Miss offer a better support system for him.
But hey, you got a ton of points.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:07 PM ^
Justin Fields is somewhere laughing is butt off. Maybe Ole Miss needs to use some of the bag man money to buy OSU's attorney.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:07 PM ^
Experiencing racism vs fist fulls of cash and a brand new Escalade
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:09 PM ^
But won't he need to turn in his UGA Suburban?
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^
Did Shea have to return his Ole Miss $$$?
September 23rd, 2020 at 6:40 PM ^
Definitely not, used it on new clubs and recurring tee time all summer
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^
I like how Georgia’s official statement contends that ‘Ain’t no racism down here’.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
Kirby Smart is truly a sh** bag of a person...as if we didn't already know that.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Is this a Kirby Smart problem, or a kid trying to play the system problem? I don't like Kirby as much as the next guy, but Otis Reese is leaving for playing time.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
UGA WR Kearis Jackson seems to back up the story Reese alleged about being a passenger in a car that was pulled over.
I remember that night ...... smh https://t.co/H9pf9sqDs8
— Kearis Jackson (@king_kearis) September 23, 2020
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:29 PM ^
Kearis Jackson starts, and Otis Reese doesn't, therefore Otis Reese doesn't feel as safe as Jackson.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:15 PM ^
Whaaaa??? A black man experiencing racism in the deep south during a time of unprecedented racial demonstrations along extremely partisan political lines?
Noo waaayyy....
September 23rd, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
Plenty enough racism in the mitten. I'm sure plenty of Michigan students have stories like this. One posted a video of a very disturbing traffic stop a couple months ago but I don't remember if it was in Ann Arbor or not
September 23rd, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
I have an on-campus story, but it didn't involve a student so I'll save it for another day.
People in SE Michigan know there's racism in the state. Just look at how polarized the Detroit area is. We can't have a reliable public transportation system in large part because people are worried about making it easier for people to use mass transit to come out to the burbs (not realizing everyone is driving out there anyway).
September 24th, 2020 at 8:44 AM ^
"We can't have a reliable public transportation system in large part because people are worried about making it easier for people to use mass transit to come out to the burbs..."
Happens everywhere. For decades, a Metro (Washington DC subway system) stop in Tysons Corner was violently opposed because it would open up the upscale area to downtown DC inhabitants. It did finally get built years ago, and lo - the predicted crime sprees and loss of property values did not come to pass.