OT: Wings trade Mantha for a #1, a #2, and 2 other forwards
In case you didn't catch it, and with the Wings in the cellar, it's quite possible, but today is NHL trade deadline day...
The title says most of it. Stevie Y just worked some magic and sent Anthony Mantha to the Washington Capitals for:
F Jakub Vrana
F Richard Panik
2021 1st Round Pick
2022 2nd Round Pick
Jakub Vrana in particular has a ton of upside and was the 13th overall pick in 2014. He has more goals than Mantha this season as well. LOL!
The Wings now have a ridiculous amount of picks in this year's draft -- 12! ...and close to that in 2022.
TRUST THE YZERPLAN!
Man I hope we get a top 3 pick in the ‘22 draft..
The NHL has done a good of making sure that doesn't happen in recent years. Now excuse me while I take off my tin-foil hat.
Man what a year! Was at the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1, & the MCI Center on June 16.
April 12th, 2021 at 11:34 PM ^
I was also at MCI that evening. A grown ass man with tears of joy in his eyes, and tears of sadness that Vlad wasn't on the ice where he was supposed to be for another 10 years.
This needs way more likes!
April 13th, 2021 at 12:12 AM ^
I drank out of that at a bar in Ferndale one of those Cup runs. Glorious days.
April 12th, 2021 at 10:32 PM ^
Toto, I don't think we're in Ken Holland Land anymore!
Hopefully they draft Chaz Lucius.
Chaz! Pick up your fucking skateboard!
MAAAAA, THE MEATLOAF. . . .FUCK!!!
Yes.
Not if you're a Caps fan.
April 12th, 2021 at 10:47 PM ^
Can confirm... I'm a Wings fan first, but a Caps fan second. I'm happy for the Wings, but pretty sad for the Caps...
Good for Mantha. His talent will help Washington and he'll be on a playoff team with a good chance at winning the Stanley Cup. I just hope that the picks we get go towards the Wings being contenders again - it's a rough time to be a Wings fan.
Mantha is a solid player and a nice guy, but you have to take this trade 10 out 10 times.
Mantha has enormous talent but a questionable compete level. This issue came up when Jimmy Devellano called him out back when he played in Grand Rapids. Right up to this year when he was benched by Blashill for two games.
This was a great trade. Panik is a journeyman. Vrana is a year younger than Mantha. And he has outscored Mantha (three year average) 41-37. We move on from a guy who needs an attitude adjustment. Pllus we get a first and a second.
Nice move Stevie! May the Wings get fortunate and draft Beniers.
I agree with everything, but on the work ethic/hustle issue I am somewhat willing to give him a pass. I think he is a tremendous talent who is just watching is career get wasted on a team on the decline and then wallowing in a rebuild for several years. Not saying that excuses his lack of hustle or whatever, but I think it helps contextualize it some. I'm sure he's not lamenting the move to a serious contender, the Caps are in Win Now mode while Ovi still has some years left, and we need all the draft capital we can accumulate. Great move for all parties I think.
What a great haul! I expected the 1st round for him, but to get a 2nd round as well is nice.
richard panik? really?
sounds like the feeling i used to get when i had to pee on the pee wall in the old michigan stadium bathrooms.
JLA too.
He's from Slovakia so perhaps his name doesn't translate there like it does here.
No reason to panic.
Dave Dombrowski nods at Yzerman and gives him a thumbs up.
Only Dombrowski was always the guy giving up prospects for vets who hopefully work out. Eugenio Suarez for Alfredo Simon, anybody?
Yes. "Trader" Jack McCloskey might be a better comparison.
Or Randy "Trader Lane with Training Wheels" Smith.
Let's be fair to Dombrowski. He would also sign those vets to high-priced long-term contracts too.
+1 for Dombrowski... sure he had the benefit of Mr I.'s checkbook but he also convinced FAs to come here.
Signing Ivan Rodríguez and Magglio Ordonez enticed talent to come here and started that run.
Plus vis-a-vis Ken Holland, Dombroski won after Detroit. Holland won't.
Yeah, this is almost like a reverse Dombroski
The Tigers have made terrible deal after terrible deal since about 2014. Read a pretty interesting article outlining some of the worst recently. Tigers have traded away Robbie Ray, Suarez, Chad Green, JD Martinez, Justin Verlander and Justin Upton and got basically nothing in return.
At least Leyland is gone.
/s
Vrana is an RFA so Wings will have to pay to keep him and the Caps weren't going to do it. Panik is a salary dump. Think Detroit won the trade but makes sense for both teams
Even if the Wings don't want to pay Beans they can always tender him and let someone else pay him for compensation. If someone offers him $2.2 mil per year or more the wings get a 2nd and if someone offers him $4.4 or more per year then they snag a 1st and a 3rd
Hey Bo...could the Wings tender him for one season at $4.4 million? That would limit the dollar commitment to one year and make the first and third a requirement for anyone to take him.
The wings just have to tender him at 100% of the last year's salary so a 1 year 3.3 mil deal and then whatever other teams offer him determines the compensation if he accepts and the wings decline to match
April 13th, 2021 at 10:02 AM ^
The Wings wouldn’t determine the cost. The Wings simply offer a “qualifying offer” at the same salary they made previously.
Other teams can then offer contracts to the guy, and the value of THOSE offers determines the return compensation if the Wings let the kid walk. The Wings could still match the offer of the other team and keep him though.
But it’s up to opposing teams to determine what he’s worth and what they’re willing to give up to get him.
Highway robbery! Incredible trade by Stevie Y.
Amazing work already, Stevie!
I didn’t know Commander Riker played hockey.
"The Wings now have a ridiculous amount of picks in this year's draft -- 12"
I don't know anything about the NHL draft but that seems like a good number of picks to have in one draft in any sport.
That's approaching Joe Douglas draft territory.
NHL draft is set up the same way as the NFL draft. 7 rounds. What is really intriguing about the Red Wings picks is that they now have two 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks, and two 3rd round picks.
So over half of the 12 selections will be in the first three rounds of a very deep draft. Yzerman has plenty of opportunity to add some quality players in this draft, and hopefully can add some elite talent at the top of the first round.
Makes no sense on the Caps side. Vrana is a year younger, has the same amount of goals in fewer games, and is also still under club control (he's an RFA this offseason).
They must've been desperate to dump Panik and Y squeezed them.
Partly it was the Panik contract, but I think their thought process is that Mantha could finally reach his potential on a good, veteran team. His ceiling is really high and quite attainable if he absorbs Ovi's work ethic.
Vrana has a bad habit of not impacting meaningful games in any way, hasn't put in any work to take the next step and is Lavs doghouse so wasn't going to get matched this year and wasn't going to be on the Caps next year anyway. They get a guy who has a fair amount of talent that still has three years left on his deal
Mantha will be in the same doghouse if he plays like he did in Detroit. Vrana and Mantha are the same player in that regard. Maybe this will be the boot in Mantha's ass that he needs.