OT- ND QB Buchner out 4 months
From the WW leader, this is why you need 2 QBs. Saw this with Texas this weekend as well.
Notre Dame Fighting Irish QB Tyler Buchner to have shoulder surgery, miss 4 months (espn.com)
September 12th, 2022 at 2:12 PM ^
Texas kind of does have two QBs don't they? Supposedly was an close competition and most think the backup played pretty well in Ewers place, even if neither of them could get in the end zone.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
Texas' back up did alright. He also sprained his ankle like 2 drives in and could barely move for large parts of that game.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:30 PM ^
and Card is questionable - per rumors - for the next game.
I know there are levels of severity to these injuries but interesting to me that is ND immediately opting for surgery while the unconfirmed info on Ewers is currently 4-6 weeks.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:32 PM ^
That, combined with a noodly arm was not good for the offense.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:59 PM ^
looks like ND will have to play their leprechaun at Quarterback.
September 13th, 2022 at 9:32 AM ^
Yeah, also hard to get velocity when your back foot is injured. Couldn't push off on his throws.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^
I’ve been hearing “if you have 2 QBs, you have none”… for years.
So, two QBs is a good thing….
September 12th, 2022 at 5:45 PM ^
More football wisdom: if you have no QBs, you have none.
September 12th, 2022 at 6:31 PM ^
I'd like to see the math on that. Seems doubtful.
September 13th, 2022 at 1:39 AM ^
I believe that was a Madden-ism and I believe it was really only meant to apply to the NFL, where it's closer to the truth. College guys can only stick around a few years and are at the early stages of development.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^
You are going to continue to see the "Cade McNamara going to grad transfer" all year long on the ND blogs as their impending, woeful 4-8 campaign this year continues.
Hope it is evident to CJ Carr - this is a dumpster fire you can avoid. And to hell with Notre Dame!
September 12th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^
seriously.... look at ND's schedule..... they could very well be staring at a losing season and no bowl game..... Does young mr carr stick with his decision?
September 12th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^
Is it possible the situation allows Carr more reps and and earlier advancement on the depth chart, and maybe that's a reason to stay?
September 12th, 2022 at 3:30 PM ^
Buchner's injury may actually have the opposite effect. He was a true sophomore this season, so without this injury, the starting QB spot would have been wide open after the 2023 season (if Buchner blew up and left early) or the 2024 season (if he didn't). That means CJ Carr would have had to sit behind Buchner for at most one year.
Now Buchner is going to redshirt this year, which changes the timeline. Because Buchner is a smallish QB (6'2", 205 lbs) and is coming off a serious injury, it's unlikely he will leave for the NFL after only one year as a starting QB, which means that Carr would probably have to sit at least two years at ND before having a shot at the starting job.
September 12th, 2022 at 4:09 PM ^
Buchner has a wet noodle for an arm - the NFL is not in his future.
September 12th, 2022 at 4:10 PM ^
Or Carr watched Buchner suck ass against Marshall and said to himself that he can beat Buchner for the job. Which I definetly think he can.
September 12th, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^
The problem is elite athletes think they can fix that.
Having said that I am all in on Jayden Davis.
September 12th, 2022 at 5:16 PM ^
I may be in the minority here, but I don’t care what Carr does. He’s a legacy kid and picked a rival program. Good for him to make his own choice, but I’d rather continue to recruit Davis, and if Moore wants to come back in the fold that would be fine too.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:17 PM ^
Hate to hear that. Good luck with the recovery, Tyler.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:18 PM ^
Time to lower my expectations from 7-5 to 5-7 I guess
September 12th, 2022 at 2:22 PM ^
Exactly why you need 2 QBs. The people saying Cade should leave immediately are the same people that will call for Harbaugh's firing if JJ gets injured and we have to rely on Warren...
And the classless fans booing Cade was horrendous. Imagine a UM QB beating OSU and the inning the BIG 10 in years getting booed at home during a blow out win.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^
You absolutely need 2. Michigan is no different. Pretty rare for a starter to get through an entire season unscathed, and also you need to give some time to QB2 so he's ready next year or whenever.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
Both of those things can be true. He's not going to the starter barring an injury and he clearly thinks he's a QB1, so he owes it to himself to go and find out.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^
Totally agree. The potential for injury is why it makes total sense for Michigan to want to have Cade, it does not dramatically change whether it makes sense from Cade's perspective to stay at Michigan.
As much as I love Cade and really want him to stay, I would totally understand leaving, and I think I'd probably do the same if I were in his shoes. No matter what he decides, he is a great Wolverine who led us to a Big Ten Championship, a win over Ohio State, and a trip to the playoffs.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^
Warren is good. Lol.
Cade is good.
Cade SHOULD leave if he truly believes there is a better opportunity for him.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^
I think the only reason Cade would leave this season is to get onto his next team early and start learning the playbook et cetera. I would not hold that against him but it would certainly put us in a precarious situation moving forward.
Those saying Warren is better than Cade or ready to be our 2nd string should slow their roll.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:53 PM ^
Exactly why we also have Bowman. Yes he hasn’t played much, but he IS a guy who has thrown for over 5,000 yards and 33 TDs at the P5 level.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:42 PM ^
of course every team wants to retain 2 playable QBs - unfortunately its not so easy in modern transfer portal ball. its more difficult at QB but its tough to remain stacked at every position. which is why every single scholarship matters as teams need to reload young talent to offset those more experienced transfers
September 12th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
Saw both injuries as they happened and the Ewers one looked worse yet he is only on the shelf for 4-6 weeks. Just goes to show you never know how these things will shake out. Its clear Buchner is not the answer and he won the QB battle in camp...ND is in the shit now and I am here for it!
Card looked solid and was the named starter last season so he obviously has some talent. I know Ewers had a good game going against Bama when he went out but I am not convinced he was/is so much better than Card at this point in his career. Texas will be as fine as they would have been otherwise. I am not sure that is particularly fine because Bama looked incredibly average in that game. They looked poorly coached and low on talent, which was the real shocker of the weekend. I know Saban will coach them up but they have a long way to go a this point in the season.
The QB on that roster that intrigues me is Maalik Murphy. Michigan wanted him badly and there is no way he will stick around once Manning comes to town. Not saying he is coming to Michigan but he will move on and will likely be a guy to watch down the road.
September 12th, 2022 at 4:48 PM ^
The Ewers injury did look worse. He was in the air when he got hit and was driven into the ground. He is very fortunate.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:27 PM ^
Yikes! He hasn't been great, but his backup looked worse.
Yes, you always have to expect that you'll need two QBs to get through the season.
Harbaugh better handle Cade quite delicately right now...Cade needs to keep his head straight to avoid mentally checking out. Harbaugh should make a clear announcement that JJ is the starter past UConn; the longer Cade is in this 1A/1B situation it will continue to rattle his psyche. Better for Cade to know his role, that he's #2 rather than 1B.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:38 PM ^
Apparently Harbaugh clarified that JJ is the starter without the "for Connecticut" caviat later in the press conference fwiw.
I agree with you on the QB2 stuff - tell Cade M will still NEED him sometime this year and he will get his chances to show his skill / worth as the season goes on. If Cade decides he wants to Grad transfer at the end of the season these opportunities will be his "demo tape" (in addition to the 2021 season) for potential suitors so it behooves him to focus and kick ass.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:31 PM ^
Thanks Buckeye Chuck- your offense didn't look great against ND and I would argue with the home field advantage vs ND while Marshall played at ND- that statistically OSU = Marshall
September 12th, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^
I buy this argument, and in order to solidify its validity, propose the two teams be forced to swap uniforms and fields on November 26th.
September 12th, 2022 at 4:26 PM ^
OSU = Marshall
Probably true.
I just hope that OSU can win the Sun Belt.
I hear it's a tough conference!
September 12th, 2022 at 2:30 PM ^
Drew Pyne -- all 5'11" of him -- becomes the man now in South Bend...yikes. ND will still beat the dregs of their schedule (UNLV & Navy), but even games against Cal, Syracuse, and BC look tough now, to say nothing of matchups with UNC, BYU, Stanford, Clemson, and USC.
September 12th, 2022 at 2:52 PM ^
They just lost to Marshall; I wouldn’t be so confident in saying they’ll beat UNLV and Navy.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:08 PM ^
While true, Marshall is a pretty good G5 team, whereas Navy has completely bottomed out after their excellent 11-2 season in 2019 and UNLV has been awful for what feels like forever (last winning season: 2013).
Even with lousy QB play, ND's defense and relentless peppering of Mayer should net them wins over those teams. I make no such proclamation about their other seven games, though.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:41 PM ^
As it happens, UNLV gave Cal a game in Berkeley over the weekend (lost 20-14).
September 12th, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
Maybe Cal is decent this year, but they've been pretty bad for a number of years.
September 12th, 2022 at 6:42 PM ^
As a Cal alum who follows them closely, they suck
September 12th, 2022 at 4:27 PM ^
I like the Service Academies - and, respect the commitment the young men and women who attend them make to serve our country. This being said - when Navy plays the Irish - I’ll be rooting for the Midshipmen. Go Navy!
September 12th, 2022 at 4:52 PM ^
Go Navy!
September 13th, 2022 at 10:04 AM ^
"Go, Navy. Anchors away." (Buckeye fan)
"Go, Navy. Anchors aweigh." (Michigan fan)
September 12th, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^
I dislike ND as much as anyone else (I'm not Catholic, either, so no sense of pseudo-affliation with that), and Rudy can go fuck himself. But I don't want to see any player knocked out of a season for injury. I feel bad for the kid and hope he has a good, and quick, recovery so he can get back on the field doing what he's wanted to do all his life - play football.
Aside from that, to Hell with Noter Dame.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^
I am Catholic, lapsed tbh, and Irish, not lapsed. To hell with ND.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:32 PM ^
An Irish lapsed Catholic who hates ND? The last 5 days have been kind to you!
September 12th, 2022 at 2:49 PM ^
That just sucks for him. Hate to see that as I really want to see Notre Dame struggle with all of their starters healthy so it can't use injury as an excuse as Michigan poaches the recruits where Michigan came in 2nd.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:07 PM ^
Are there any 2023 guys we came second on? I know everyone is talking about Carr for the 2024 class, but I think we are in a great position with Davis who I think is better than Carr. Unless some thing drastic happens with ND, I see them losing to BYU, Clemson, and USC for sure. UNC and Stanford seem like tossups at this point and Navy+BC as the only wins I'd bet on. I could hilariously see them at 2-8 going into the Clemson game and finishing with 4 wins.
September 12th, 2022 at 3:34 PM ^
IIRC, some of the O linemen.