OT: Mike Nesmith of the Monkees dead

Submitted by JDeanAuthor on December 10th, 2021 at 1:00 PM

78 years

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/monkees-michael-nesmith-dead-1270079/

1VaBlue1

December 10th, 2021 at 1:06 PM ^

RIP, Mike...

I watched their TV show a bit, back in the day.  They had some good music, tried to be an American answer to the Beatles but never quite got there.

Ryno2317

December 10th, 2021 at 1:46 PM ^

"Never quite got there" as an answer to the Beatles?  That's quite an understatement.

They were largely a fake band that was unable to play their instruments.  In fact, they were created after the Beatles released the movie "Help" and the t.v. studios wanted to cash in.

rob f

December 10th, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^

Not entirely true.  

Yes, largely a "fake" band especially when the show first started, but each and every one of them had some amount of musical talent especially Mike Nesmith, who was a pretty prolific songwriter.  Among so many other songs he penned, here's one good early example:

https://youtu.be/w9qsDgA1q8Y

...the song that pretty much introduced Linda Ronstadt to her adoring fans, myself included.

JMo

December 10th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

Yeah, rob is dead-on here. I think there's a lot of reductive "meme" like thinking when it comes to music from the period. "Yoko broke up the Beatles" "Monkees were a fake band" etc. 

Yes, the Monkees were "created" by producers and didn't form in their garage or meet in grammar school like George John and Paul. But, they also weren't the first band to have had it's members added, removed, changed, or even fully combined by a label, etc.  It also didn't exclusively happen in the 50s/60s.

Does anyone still refer to Stone Temple Pilots as a "fake" band created by Atlantic as a response to Nirvana?

Mikey, Peter and Mike (especially Mike) were all accomplished musicians. Yes, they were created for a TV show. But also yes, the show and the Monkees themselves were a huge phenomenon. For a period of about four years they were HUGE. Their first FOUR album releases all charted No. 1 on Billboard in the US, with the fifth topping at No. 3. 

Mike in particular was the band's musical north star. While so many of their uber popular songs are popcorn-pop, and massively popular, Mike was pushing them and music in different directions. The marriage of country, folk and rock was a confluence that saw a lot of seminal acts come out of this time. The Monkees, specifically because of Mike, were right there at the forefront. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JMo

December 10th, 2021 at 6:20 PM ^

Of course!  

Yeah, rob is dead-to-me on here

 

Ahh much better!  :)  Also fixed in the original copy. I'm constantly going back and making tiny edits rob. You found my kryptonite; chronic edit syndrome which unfortunately pairs poorly with my stream-of-consciousness posting style.

LB

December 10th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^

RIP, yet another loss. He was very talented. I will forever associate his name with this cover.

https://youtu.be/eu-aMwyELmw

 

robpollard

December 10th, 2021 at 1:27 PM ^

Yes, Mike Nesmith was cool and a creative dude.

As for Mickey, he lived *hard* in the 1970s (and perhaps after that)...regularly partying in L.A. with fellow Hollywood Vampires like Alice Cooper, Harry Nilsson, Keith Moon and a few others.

Amazing Mickey is still around. Not quite Keith Richards-level, but sometimes fate smiles kindly on you.

charblue.

December 10th, 2021 at 1:34 PM ^

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For now, it looks like an almost certain Saturday night date looms at Kinnick in October to face Iowa which will present the biggest early cross-conference matchup of next season for our Wolverines.

jerseyblue

December 10th, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^

Umm, ok.

Back to Nesmith, I saw some clips recently of shows he and Dolenz did recently and Mike had to sit on a stool and he barely sang. He also got very emotional. You could tell that he wasn't in great shape. I think maybe he knew he didn't have a lot of time left. I'm really surprised that Dolenz is the last one standing considering that he lived life the hardest.

Don

December 10th, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^

I never took them seriously from a musical standpoint since their early stuff was done with the significant help of uncredited studio musicians, but Nesmith seemed like a good guy.