kehnonymous

December 3rd, 2021 at 9:13 AM ^

I hadn't heard of him either, but when I texted my ND friend about the Kelly news to make sure he was in a safe space, he said that Freeman was being groomed to eventually take over the HC job (he also hadn't heard the Kelly news, but was like 'meh, whatever'

I think most of us outside of the ND space would've shot our shot for Fickell and it's what I expected but apparently, by all accounts, people within the ND program really really love Freeman and he should have 100% buy-in from the start, though of course he'll have to prove it from on the field.

MGlobules

December 3rd, 2021 at 9:55 AM ^

From what I've read elsewhere, the rehire of Tommy Rees--who will reportedly obtain more autonomy over offense--helped secure the Freeman hire. A number of the coaches are apparently staying, despite Kelly's attempt to lure them to Baton Rouge. Might be keys to a certain continuity, eventual success at ND, might or might not impact Kelly's eventual success.

Personally, I'll be happy if Kelly fails. I will now quietly root for Freeman, except when his success threatens Michigan's. At that point it will always be to hell with Notre Dame.  

 

stephenrjking

December 3rd, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^

My recollection is that Kelly's tenure was saved by a comprehensive staff upgrade, and if that staff remains a key reason why ND was successful, it doesn't seem unreasonable to give continuity a shot, especially since it already worked to get ND to the level they're on right now. 

ND folks seem remarkably sanguine about all this, which might tell us something. 

TrueBlue2003

December 3rd, 2021 at 10:24 AM ^

Yeah, apparently the current players and recruits love him.  Short term, it probably means they avoid the kind of mass transfer and recruit exodus we're seeing at Oklahoma.

We'll see how he does longer term.  Obviously more of a risk than a guy that's a proven HC like Fickell or Campbell.

Interesting how quickly LSU, USC, UF and ND got filled.  OU the only marquee job left still open.

stephenrjking

December 3rd, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^

Early signing period is a game-changer. Even ND, which publicly said that they'd wait until after the postseason if they had to, pulled the trigger quickly. 

Not sure if it makes a difference to them, but didn't I hear that Bob Stoops is recruiting for Oklahoma right now? That does tell us what a big deal closing on the early signing period class is, and also might help explain why Oklahoma feels it has the luxury of waiting, assuming that they've written off some of the Riley recruits that have bolted. 

wolve1972

December 3rd, 2021 at 12:04 PM ^

That record is excellent and highly doubt Freeman comes anywhere near that run.  Freeman's getting the enthusiasm uptick of being a popular hire. But my guess is that the lack of HC experience comes back to bite ND bigtime.  Yeah, I know, Dabo, Riley, Day......but those are the exceptions.  Most assistants that are promoted to HC - at major powers - go through a learning curve. 

Mpfnfu Ford

December 3rd, 2021 at 6:06 PM ^

There's no evidence that hiring an older more established coach works out better than hiring the young guy. Most of the truly great game changer coaches were dudes in their 30s with light backgrounds before they got hired. 

Nick Saban to Alabama, Urban to Ohio State and Lou Holtz to Notre Dame are the rare result of Big School Hires Well Established Name. Usually, you end up paying for past results and sub par performance because the older guy's best years were behind him. 

Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, Steve Spurrier, Jimmy Johnson, Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis...usually you want the young hungry guy who is either coming off an assistant job at a similar blue blood/internal or the young guy from a smaller program who has something to prove. 

snarling wolverine

December 3rd, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^

He's never been a head coach before, but you think he's going to outscheme Saban or Dabo if they meet up?  

Is Saban's kryptonite a guy half his age with no experience?  I'd tend to doubt it.

Freeman may have been the best realistic option for them, but I'll be pretty surprised if he can win more than his predecessor.  But his program might have fewer negligent death/rape/academic fraud scandals.

Mpfnfu Ford

December 3rd, 2021 at 7:54 PM ^

It is far more likely that the guy who de-thrones Saban is a guy not currently head coach anywhere than it is that, say Brian Kelly is going to suddenly become a better coach at 60 than he was 10 years ago when Saban was booting his teeth out just because LSU lets you cheat more. 

You know how I know that? The two guys who have done the best job against Saban are 1) Dabo, a former WR coach whose schemes are rudimentary and bland and never even coordinated prior to being head coach and 2) Kirby Smart, who was Saban's right hand assistant but had zero head coaching experience before the Georgia job and has turned Georgia into a recruiting death star. 

All the guys with shiny long resumes prior to their current job have done jack shit

Jordan2323

December 3rd, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^

Hell, with the likelihood we are going to 12 teams in the CFP, it should make it easier going forward for any good team to make the playoffs. Michigan, for example, could still make a 12 team playoff this year even if they lost to Iowa. Possibly would even make the top 8. 

HHW

December 3rd, 2021 at 10:27 AM ^

I totally agree, risky.  ND has no idea how he will handle the duties of HC which are far different than coordinator or just an assistant.  Freeman may be a great coach, but can he handle everything else that comes with being the Head man.  Time will tell I guess.  I kind of equate with Mel Pearson, let him go to Tech to prove he can handle it, then bring him back.  Fickell would have been a better/safer choice imo.