OT: Jim Tressel and Bo Pelini failed to monitor their football program
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April 20th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
Who could’ve seen it coming?
April 20th, 2021 at 12:19 PM ^
Bullshit, they know exactly what's going on.
April 20th, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^
Exactly. The fact that they are even following through with this makes the NCAA look STUPID. Go after a major university and gain some clout, or just turn the other cheek for the money. Either way, this limp wristed attempt to establish order is a joke.
I just looked it up, and it turns out looking "STUPID" has never once stopped the NCAA from doing anything.
April 20th, 2021 at 12:24 PM ^
Hhhhhmmm...one of the findings is about messing with a kid not in the portal (i.e. not eligible for contact from another school) I am certain Texas will see the same penalties for Worthy /s
April 20th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
Tressel is so in the American grain it isn't funny. He's the latest in a long line of con men with a piety shield. I'd be embarrassed to be a YSU alum.
Every time I hear Tressel's name, all I can think of is this guy;
How can you be so obtuse?
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who dat? (Cohen brother's movie?)
Damn, I don't remember those 3 also being in Being John Malcovitch?!
WHAT ABOUT YOU FUZZY BRITCHES???
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April 20th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
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April 20th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
Bo called Tressel a "snake in the grass" when he was hired by OSU. And d'Antonio self claims he "lies in the weeds". Two snakes from the same field.
At OSU, the snakes go all the way to the top. It ended up being a prefect fit for JT, he just had to fall on the sword when it got out of control.
April 20th, 2021 at 12:42 PM ^
"A Youngstown State football assistant coach had impermissible contacts with a prospect, and the program permitted three football staff members to recruit off-campus without completing the coaches certification test, according to an agreement released by the Division I Committee on Infractions."
As compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars SEC & ACC coaches in both basketball and football pay players to get LOI annually. I'll say this for the NCAA they are consistent in overlooking huge infractions from cash-cow conferences while lowering the boom on small, non-revenue producing schools like YSU.
What a fucking joke they are.
April 20th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
This is the problem - the majority of the ncaa rules/regulations actually make sense at their core, yet the enforcement/oversight is so weak and inconsistent that it renders the organization impotent.
I wouldn't even say "weak and inconsistent". The NCAA is flat out, intentionally & willfully corrupt. There's no possible way they don't know what's going on at these major football powerhouses, and yet they literally never do a single thing about it. The whole organization needs to die and something new needs to take its place.
April 20th, 2021 at 10:59 PM ^
That's not true, or didn't used to be. You can look this up but at one time in the 80's half the SEC and Pac10 conferences were on probation for major violations, SMU got the death penalty and a large chunk of the SWC was on probation and many people wanted Miami and Oklahoma to get the death penalty. Its really at that point that things started swinging South. Add in the NCAA just got damn sick of all the SEC schools turning each other in during the 90's they just could no longer enforce everything.
But what really happened was schools got very good at lawyering up, to the point the NCAA could no longer pursue many high profile cases because of the potential cost, so they were stuck negotiating weak deals. Its not a corrupt organization in so much as its the members who are corrupt.
April 20th, 2021 at 11:49 PM ^
That was 40 years ago. By comparison, when that happened, World War II had ended a less long time ago.
Cleveland State is going to hammered by these new rules - iirc Bobby Knight
April 20th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
Wasn't Mangino on staff at Youngstown St for a bit too?
April 20th, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^
This is weak sauce.
Impermissible contacts. LOL.
There isn't a program in the land which isn't guilty of this in some form. Just like all of you broke the law the last time you got in your cars.
The punishment is equally weak... a 4 figure fine and reductions in visits. Yawn.
There's no loss of scholarships; no bowl ban. Nothing to see here.
This is, I swear, the barest of penalties possible. I'm sort of surprised the NCAA even wasted the time drafting a press release that is basically "a couple of you can't talk to recruits for a week and also pay us $5k"
This is merely exhibit #4,346,232,233 for what a joke the NCAA is, but remember Arike Ogunwale, who hit two game winners for Notre Dame in the Women's Final Four a few years ago?
Was listening to the Road Trippin' podcast where she guested last week, and after her big shots she was of course famous and capitalized on that by appearing on Dancing With The Stars, because sure why not. As she related, even though she was obviously there because of her basketball exploits THAT was ok with the NCAA since she wasn't actually playing basketball on the show. But if she had autographed a t shirt or someone had bought her dinner or, hell, a bagel with cream cheese, then look out.
Hold up, we can pay college athletes to be on a TV show as long as that show has nothing to do with the sport they play. Knowing that, I'm pretty sure as a group, we can think of a way to crowdsource a TV show with nothing to do with football or basketball.
Oh man, the NCAA really showed they have all the big schools afraid after this power move.
The whole NCAA needs to be dismantled, with a new governing body built in its ashes.
"I don't want to know what you know."
--Jim Tressel to Ray Isaac, when Isaac tried to tell him he'd bribed a juror.
"Tressel is acting like Sergeant Schulz."
--Myke Clarett
Except for chocolate bars and strudel?
In summary: "A school with Jim Tressel as its President got caught violating NCAA rules."
How "surprising."
Anyway ...... even if Tressel faced some penalties from his employer over this (he won't, YSU is small fry and this story will pass in 24 hours), he'll somehow manage to fall upward. E.g., decide to run for the open Senate seat in Ohio in 2022 and then somehow win.
Tressel is what he is, and YSU knows this but just doesn't care. OSU didn't really care either, except the pressure was simply too much and they did have to do something.
I could totally see him running for the house/senate and winning like Tom Osborne or the dumbass down in Alabama (name escapes me).
Tommy Tuberville. Yep, there are definite similarities between him and Tressel.
I was living in Cincinnati in the 2013-2016 era and was a fan of the Bearcats then. It's not hyperbole to say that Tuberville might be on my "top 10 most despicable characters on Planet Earth" list. He was an entitled ass then and I've seen nothing since 2016 to suggest he's changed.
You think the President of a school should be punished because the NCAA found out that an assistant coach on the football team had contact with a kid from a division II school? Even after finding out (by reading the article) that the kid told the assistant coach he was in the portal and asked the school to be entered?
Do you think that Mark Schlissel is responsible for knowing if Sherron Moore had contact with a kid that plays for UNLV? And if Moore did have that contact, that Schlissel should be punished? That's asinine.
Also, the OP's title was straight clickbait from the start. It's funny how many articles are labeled as clickbait around here, yet this thread makes it up there. Freaking article doesn't even mention Pelini or Tressel.
If it's makes you feel any better, I imagine most M alumni and fans don't give a shit about any of this.
Well, I mean this isn't two apples here. It's an apple and an orange.
Schlissel is someone who has shown he isn't overly passionate about athletics. And he's also heading up a world-class University where athletics, while a big-time D-1 program, is a rather small function of the University as a whole. U-M would still be a world-class University if they dropped all athletics immediately.
Tressel, meanwhile, is a former National Champion football Coach who has invested a large portion of his life in football. He has also been slapped with a "show cause" penalty once in his career as regards NCAA rules. And now he's heading up a lower-profile regional University where athletics are disproprotionally important to both the school and the community.
The odds that "Tressel knew and cares" versus "Schlissel knew and cares", they're about 1,000x greater for the former, I'd guess.
You think athletics is more important at Youngstown State than it is for Michigan? A school like Youngstown State struggles to break even on athletics. At Michigan it's a moneymaker. It's far more likely that strings are pulled at Michigan rather than at YSU. And Tressel hasn't coached in over a decade, and is the President of the University. So again, I ask....you think a University President should be punished for a small school assistant football coach talking to a DII athlete? You think he even knew about it? Come on man....again, the freaking article doesn't even mention Bo Pelini, or Jim Tressel. You know why? Because it was minor violations that go on at every school, and Pelini most likely didn't even know about it, let alone the guy that runs the school (not the athletic department).
Sure, Ohio State bad and all, but I've always maintained that compared to everything else that goes on in blueblood programs, covering up for your players trading bling for tattoos is pretty small potatoes.
OSU got punished with Urban Meyer. Savage move karma, savage move.
The extent of what was happening was not simply "got tattoos." The fact that OSU and their slappies were able to frame the argument that way is infuriating.
Terrelle Prior was caught driving back to Pennsylvania on weekends in free rental Corvette tattoos.
Reggie Germany had a zero tattoo-point-average because he never attended the tattoo parlor.
A J Hawk and Nick Mangold had thousands of dollars of tattoo ink hidden under their mattress.
Santonio Holmes was offered a tattoo but told the guy he "already had a tattoo agent taking care of me."
And they'd still get hired somewhere.
There was a time when no one could plausibly charge YSU with "failure to monitor," back when the main bagman was chairman of their Board of Trustees...
Q.E.D.