OT: Jameis Winston linked in possible point-shaving scandal

Submitted by Kermits Blue Key on

A friend and former high school teammate of Winston placed a $5,500 bet on the first-half spread of the FSU-Louisville game, and Winston coincidentally threw 2 int's and FSU trailed 7-21 at the half. We all know how the second half went.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/uab-reportedly-investigating-player-for-point-shaving-scandal-linked-to-jameis-winston/ar-AA74rph?ocid=iehp

NorthSideBlueFan

November 8th, 2014 at 7:34 AM ^

It is unreal how we can't go more than a week without ANOTHER allegation of him involved in something illegal.
Seems like murder is about the only thing this kid hadn't been alleged to have been a part of at this point.

mgowill

November 8th, 2014 at 8:08 AM ^

I agree with your statement. The list of recent stories broken by TMZ this year is fairly impressive. Most of the major media outlets have a financial stake in pro and college sports telecasts, so there is an incentive for them to not run around and dig up dirt. TMZ generates their revenue by solely running around and digging up said dirt. I'm guessing that the TMZ stigma and having a link to TMZ (generating clicks) are the reasons it was taken down.

mGrowOld

November 8th, 2014 at 7:51 AM ^

If Jamis Winston isn't the dumbest human on the planet right now he's certainly in the conversation. I eagerly await the release of his Wonderlic score. If the over/under on that is 10 I'm bettting heavy on the under.

mGrowOld

November 8th, 2014 at 10:08 AM ^

I'm not and you're right - sometimes smart people do stupid things.

 But I think it's safe to say that when somebody ALWAYS seems to be doing stupid things they are probably.....well.....you know...

Stupid.

Jamis Winston is a Grade A, USDA Choice, certified dumb ass.   And i think it's a mortal lock he's going to go single digits in the upcoming Wonderlic test.  

sj

November 8th, 2014 at 8:44 AM ^

I find it very hard to believe someone would shave points by playing poorly in the first half. If you want to win, but within the spread, the logical thing is to get a lead in the first half and shave it in the second. You'd only do this if shaving is worth risking losing over, which is hard to imagine. 

GoBlueSimon

November 8th, 2014 at 9:05 AM ^

I doubt any of this is true.  As a person living in Louisville, and knowing how pissed Louisville fans were that the Cards lost this game, it seems entirely possible to me that this was fabricated right here in Louisville by the fans to further sully Winston's name.

ghost

November 8th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^

People seem to forget that FSU trailed both ND and NC St. at the half this year.  It wasn't that unlikely to think they could be trailing @Louisville at the half.  This is a non story.

ghost

November 8th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

You clearly don't understand.  The bet was made on something that had already happened twice this year and once against a much worse opponent.  This isn't suspicious.  Its a fairly reasonable wager.

The story implies that there is something supicious about someone placing the bet.  There isn't.  

jdon

November 8th, 2014 at 10:00 AM ^

I doubt it was point shaving...

 

I am more inclined to think that his friend would know if anything was going on in Winston's life.  Was he sick, was he worrying about something, was he partying too much that week etc.

 

jdon

 

aratman

November 8th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^

He made some poor plays.  On one play he clearly didn't see the 2 deep zone.  When he throws the ball it looks like an open reciever.  This is poor football but not point shaving.  On his other first half INT he was unloading as a blitz came streight up the middle.  He couldn't follow through as he was about to loose his head.  Pass floated, again throwing to an open man.  He was not point shaving on those plays.  The bookie just doesn't want to pay the kid and should find his way to the bottom of a river.

LSAClassOf2000

November 8th, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^

NBC Sports is now picking up on it. Here's their take - LINK

It does mention that UAB's president has in fact addressed (in a not so informative way) the situation, of course. There is also a much more practical explanation for Winston's performance in the Louisville game, of course:

Of course, the Seminoles trailed the Louisville Cardinals 21-7 at halftime. Winston helped open this conversation by completing only 10 passes on 22 attempts with a pair of interceptions during the first two quarters. But Winston’s play can be easily explained away due to playing the nation’s sixth-ranked defense.

It also discusses briefly that Winston's lawyer is now also trying to delay his hearing as well. 

His Dudeness

November 8th, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^

Nothing shocks me anymore with this kid.

Complete idiot.

He will get paid though (most likely by the BUCs) next year.

GMs dont give a shit about this brand of stupid. They care about crazy.

I mean somebody took Cam Newton, nobody touched KaDeem Carey.

There is a difference between crazy and stupid.

ndscott50

November 8th, 2014 at 10:40 AM ^

His actions don't make sense. It seems like not paying, and letting everyone know about it, would kill your business. Who is going to place a bet with this dude in the future? There is also the potential that you would draw the attention of law enforcement. (Which appears to be happening) Why would he just not take bets from Winston's friend in the future?

Another option would be to bet your own money the next time the guy places a big bet on Winston to get in on the action if you really believed something is up. It seems like the bookie is either an idiot or full of shit.

Rodriguesqe

November 8th, 2014 at 10:42 AM ^

i just watched the 30 for 30 'playing for the mob' about the henry hill / bc point shaving scandal. i couldnt believe how much punishment the players receieved. If Winston did this, his nfl career is only a part of what he should be worried about.

It also showed how players got dragged in, not exactly against there will but also not with their full consent. Really good watch.

Tagg

November 8th, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^

It doesn't really matter if true or not but given all stupidity Winston has been involved with makes it very easy to believe that he is involved. That says a lot about Winston.

bj dickey

November 8th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

After reading the IBN story and a story about Winston in high school, it's certainly not far fetched to think he could have been involved in betting. Mac cording to the inn piece the account was a joint account with Rabb and Winston. Here is the excerpt from the other article on Rabb and Winston: "I know a lot of people thought he was cocky, but it wasn't that; he was just confident, he didn't bother anybody," said Jordan, who plays cornerback at Duquesne in Pittsburgh. "We all did our school work, we didn't bother people with stuff. We knew our mommas and daddies would kill us if we messed with people." Chris Rabb said Winston was part of the usual hijinks teenagers get involved in. The seniors one year "rolled" the houses of juniors with toilet paper and vice versa. During one pep rally, Winston threw a cream pie in the face of a cheerleader to incite the students. The Rabbs have known Winston since he was in the sixth grade and stand by him now. It was on the youth football field when they were 12 years old that Winston proclaimed to Ricky, "I am going to be The Man one day, Ricky. I just got to keep my head on straight." There is some question how well he has done that at FSU. The Rabbs will not intrude on Winston by asking him questions about the crab legs or the alleged rape, which has been dismissed by the state's attorney. Many people here feel a clerk simply told Winston to help himself to some crab legs and Winston did not want to prolong the incident by explaining his side in detail. Photo by Marvin Gentry Ricky Rabb was a high school football teammate of Winston's. "He's my best friend," Ricky Rabb said. "He has told me as long as the kids are behind me, I'm good. "Our favorite rapper is Lil Boosie, and he has this line that goes, 'So many people love me, somebody gotta hate me.'" For the many who criticize Winston for his antics, the friends of "Jaboo" are simply offering alibis for a friend's poor behavior. To them, the "Winston circle," which includes the Florida State athletic administration, are seen as enablers, and Winston will not reform until he receives more severe punishment. The friends see it another way. "He's made some mistakes. He knows that, but he is staying positive," Ricky Rabb said. "You can't expect a 20-year-old to do everything perfect." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2065145-how-do-folks-in-jameis-winst… http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=1716