September 5th, 2023 at 9:01 AM ^
Why did former Ahbun coach Tommy Tuberville's wife pop into my head.
She stated,"The devil was on the Plaines,"in aftermath of her husband dismal record being fired?
I'm still tickled by that statement.
September 5th, 2023 at 12:48 AM ^
Best OT in quite a while.
September 5th, 2023 at 1:39 AM ^
Love a good old fashioned Clemsoning. Really been missing those over the years.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:19 AM ^
Was just here to say the same thing. Bring back CLEMSONING!
September 5th, 2023 at 2:00 AM ^
I can’t help but wonder if that ridiculous football facility has something to do with Clemson’s decline. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the last group of upperclassmen to do anything meaningful at Clemson (2019) was the last group recruited before that facility was completed.
If you’re showing off a wiffle ball diamond, golf simulator, bowling alley, Pop-a-shot, horseshoe pit, mini-golf course, and sand volleyball court, maybe your players won’t take their jobs quite as seriously. Just a thought.
September 5th, 2023 at 6:45 AM ^
Don’t forget about the bunk beds for napping and the slide from the second to the first floor…
September 5th, 2023 at 7:56 AM ^
Cam - I appreciate you raising the point about Clemson’s facility. My view has always been - do you treat an individual as a child - or - as an adult? The Clemson facility looks like it had a lot of “child-like play” elements in it.
I’m just wondering - if only Nick had retired from Bama - and, the Tide would have offered Dabo the position.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:43 AM ^
that can't be true - i was told that the reason some teams can't win is because they don't have nice-enough facilities.
there was a whole string over the weekend about the volleyball team trending downward because they play in cliff keen and we'd never get back to elite status until they got a brand spanking-new facility. the wrestling team is terrific and play in the same building, but hey, ignore that part.
there was no shortage of discussion about how much clemson's facilities were helping them stay in national championship contention when they were winning. the garment-rending over our lack of similar perks was absolutely a thing, here and elsewhere. now we're turning around and saying "mini golf equals soft?" nope.
facilities do matter, except when they don't. or not. it still takes talent, and development, and coaching. it's unclear whether dabo can do the last two. that's the issue.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:52 AM ^
I think modern day training facilities do help, especially for the revenue generating sports. That said, there's a world of difference between a world-class facility for things that actually matter and a bunch of ancillary BS.
September 5th, 2023 at 11:40 AM ^
there's no reason to think the ancillary stuff in the facilities of either revenue or non-revenue sports makes players soft.
September 5th, 2023 at 2:44 PM ^
Clemson spent a lot of money trying to sell "Come spend 4 years here, wait your turn to start, we will not use the portal to put someone ahead of you" to 18 year olds who would rather just have playing time.
The portal has transformed the way we look at recruiting, because you can now take big swings at lower star guys with high ceilings/low floors and just portal your way out of it if the home run/bust recruit ends up a bust. Clemson is just stuck with Their Guys even if Their Guys don't pan out.
September 5th, 2023 at 5:21 PM ^
I think it probably has more to do with the fact that they no longer have one of the top three QB's in all of college football.
September 5th, 2023 at 2:45 AM ^
GO GREEN!!!
September 5th, 2023 at 2:52 AM ^
As I noted in the game thread, D.J. U went off for Oregon State, while Klubnick looked like last year's D.J. U. Apparently, D.J. U wasn't the problem. Every passing play is a dump off or a screen. Shipley is a great athlete, but he's a slot receiver playing running back. He's too small to break tackles and lacks the wiggle to get away from them. Who are the other skill position players of note? No one can name one. Compare their receivers to FSU's. There's no comparison at all. Clemson lacks playmakers and the scheme is now too predictable and fools no one. Dabo is done.
September 5th, 2023 at 7:54 AM ^
Yeah. FSU has that #4 who scored 2 TDs. Where did they find him?
(Snark Meter goes to 11.)
September 5th, 2023 at 8:37 AM ^
THREE TDs…FIFY
September 5th, 2023 at 9:08 AM ^
the scheme is now too predictable and fools no one.
It was the first game for the new OC!
Of course it looked from the playcalling like he was related to Brian Ferentz, but still.
LOL Clempson
September 5th, 2023 at 5:26 PM ^
D.J. was also playing against San Jose State while Klubnick was playing against a Duke team who looks as though they should remain a top 25 team.
September 5th, 2023 at 5:55 AM ^
FIRE BAKICH.
the clemson athletic department hasn’t been the same since they fired [insert previous baseball coach’s name here]. also, the facilities suck, and the AD just sits around and lets it happen.
-thadmattasgoblin, probably
September 5th, 2023 at 6:16 AM ^
I really enjoy watching Clemson and Dabo lose.
September 5th, 2023 at 6:18 AM ^
clemson was great for two reasons - 1) the bag, which for a while was better than anyone other than alabama’s, which got them 2) generational quarterbacks, in watson and lawrence. reason 2.5 - he had max venables around.
once those things went away (or, rather, once other teams caught up with the bag), dabo got exposed as who he was in the first place - a mediocrity that can recruit a little bit and who had a great DC. boddicker’s right - he’s done.
September 5th, 2023 at 6:22 AM ^
This can’t be good news for Northwestern, which faces Duke on September 16th. On at more positive note, Dabo’s tears taste like sugar.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:21 AM ^
Northwestern is no stranger to losing vs Duke.
September 5th, 2023 at 2:38 PM ^
Why would you lick Dabo's face?
September 5th, 2023 at 6:40 AM ^
I am just glad this happened before they play Notre Dame. The (non-FSU) ACC is a joke.
September 5th, 2023 at 6:53 AM ^
This will certainly make Clemson a more attractive team for the SEC to add to their conference.
When do the next round of expansion talks begin?
P.S. Is there any truth to the rumor that Clemson is now exploring an extension to the ACC’s current GoR?
September 5th, 2023 at 7:21 AM ^
Clemson left 20 points our there - two fumbles right in front of the end zone, two missed close FGs. 7 Duke points were off a short field from one of those fumbles. That is a 27 point swing in a 21 point game, thanks to Clemson end zone problems. Execution matters ...
September 5th, 2023 at 7:33 AM ^
It does. But Michigan had a similar horror show last year against TCU ... and still scored 45 points. For Clemson only to score 7, against Duke (which, let's not forget, had two pretty abysmal fumbles of its own in the first half), is pretty telling. That offense has some problems.
September 5th, 2023 at 7:46 AM ^
I heard the commentators saying - just before halftime - that Clemson has a placekicker who can make 70 yard field goals.
Your perspectives are fair, but - Duke also turned it over when they were definitely in FG range just before the first half ended.
September 5th, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
Clemson also benefitted on their only touchdown of the game on a muffed punt which gave them the ball inside the red zone when Duke looked as though it had momentum. Additionally, Duke coughed the ball up just before the half on what would have probably been a Duke field goal.
September 5th, 2023 at 7:47 AM ^
Duke is a solid team; they won 10 games last year and I figured they'd win 8-9 this year even before this win. Clemson clemsoning a game away is the more surprising part here, especially after an offseason about how Clemson's offense was going to be reborn with Lincoln Riley's brother as OC and Cade Clubnik under center.
Dabo is still a good coach but he may really have just gotten lucky in getting Hesiman-level QBs in Watson and Lawrence back-to-back and riding that play forward. His offenses have looked stagnant and slow for a couple years now and if that defense is showing some cracks they're in deep trouble. Feels like FSU is going to demolish them later on in the year unless they really figure this out.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:38 AM ^
Folks, if anyone had advice here it would be appreciated: how do I explain to my dog that while we don't celebrate Duke's victories, it's a more important thing for Dabo to lose and us to feel joy?
September 5th, 2023 at 8:44 AM ^
Eh, much like KU football, I don't think you need to feel any confliction about Duke football winning. You are correct that it is important to celebrate Clemson defeats, though.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:11 AM ^
How you know you don't have to feel conflicted: Season opening home game against a "top 10" conference opponent, national TV, team had a good year last year and a very good returning QB.
Attendance? 31,000.
September 5th, 2023 at 11:03 AM ^
You don't just march in to Brooks Field at Wallace Wade Stadium and expect to waltz out with a victory!!
September 5th, 2023 at 8:40 AM ^
Love to see it.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^
Clemson's only TD came off a muffed punt in their own redzone too...not great
September 5th, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
That Clemson QB slide has got to be the sweetest Schadenfreude moment ever! I went from “f@€£, first down AND 15” to “doesn’t seem fair, but the PF happened a split second after change of possession so, yay!!!”
Knowing the rest of the world is waiting for us to stumble made watching those spoiled Dukies rush the field weirdly enjoyable!!
September 5th, 2023 at 9:10 AM ^
There's no way this should happen with the amount of blue chip recruits on Clemson. They must not be developing their players or are star chasing without doing due diligence. Duke looked like a legit football team that was just better than Clemson tonight. They were like inches short of being a 10 win team last year.
If I were a blue chip recruit, I wouldn't go to Clemson until Dabo is gone or he gets better coordinators.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:48 AM ^
If "the Horror" did not put all power football schools on notice a decade and a half ago (still in therapy over it) -- then shame on them (and us). The idea we (or they) can walk over schools like ECU, UNLV, Duke, etc is just the bulletin board material those opponents need to actually pull off the upset.
Respect all opponents then run the ball down their throats.
Go Blue.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:09 AM ^
Glorious!
Dabo and BK can drown their sorrows together!😆
September 5th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
I'll just leave this here:
https://x.com/notsportscenter/status/1698899509915345260?s=42&t=Oiy4XFM_TQA450R7vtG4gw
September 5th, 2023 at 11:55 AM ^
upset specials. gotta love it. Next weekend hoping the penquins make it interesting and possibly implode the shoe.
