OT: Clemson RB CJ Fuller dies
Super sad. Unconfirmed reports on /r/cfb the cause was a blood clot during ACL surgery
https://www.wspa.com/sports/former-clemson-running-back-cj-fuller-dies/1495899577
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^
oh wow
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:33 PM ^
HOLY SHIT.
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:34 PM ^
Wow... what an absolutely horrible tragedy...
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:54 PM ^
Very sad when any young person leaves us so soon. Thoughts and prayers to his family.
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
I know they use blood filters during surgery for older adults but developing a clot at such a young age is so rare and tragic. RIP!
October 4th, 2018 at 8:21 AM ^
This is not a thing.
No one places “blood filters” for arthroscopic ACL reconstruction surgery. The evidence is questionable at best regarding placement of IVC filters for patients at high risk for venous thromboembolism undergoing knee or hip replacement surgery.
October 3rd, 2018 at 10:58 PM ^
Wow sometimes we forget the more important things in life. RIP
October 4th, 2018 at 12:34 AM ^
I think we forget just how serious all surgeries are. We live in a time of amazing scientific breakthroughs, but it can all end so fast.
I'm saying prayers for him and his family right now.
jdon
October 4th, 2018 at 2:50 AM ^
My dad is going in for hip replacement surgery in a couple of weeks, and I'm scared shitless. My grandfather died a three years ago after contracting sepsis following a successful surgery to remove an intestinal blockage, and I'm thinking all kinds of crazy thoughts now. Hearing this just put me a little more on edge.
October 4th, 2018 at 5:59 AM ^
Don’t be on edge. There’s a way to believe in a successful outcome before they go in. I’m praying for you and your families confidence and concern before, during, and after the surgery. It will go fine. God Bless the Spiller Family. From what I remember, he was a great athlete that left us way too soon. Sad.
October 4th, 2018 at 8:13 AM ^
Fuller, not Spiller.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^
Thank you!
October 4th, 2018 at 6:26 AM ^
No need to worry. Hip (and knee) replacement and some of the most common surgeries in the world. So much so that the processes and surgical techniques are so common and standardized that surgeons can crank these surgeries out quickly/efficiently and move on to the next replacement surgery, almost like an assembly line.
They have robotics now in these cases that make it so easy to do (the robot does 80% of the work). I swear I could do a knee replacement with 6 months of training on the Stryker robot, and I’m not a doctor.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^
Thanks for the replies! The reason why I'm on edge is because his surgery was supposed to happen last month but was pushed back because they discovered that he had a mild heart attack. I could tell he was a little nervous about that, so it made me even more nervous.
It was also the talk we had. I think he's coming to terms with the fact that sooner rather than later he will no longer be here, and it could come out of nowhere, so he wants to sit down with my brother and I and go over the game plan in case shit does go left.
October 5th, 2018 at 11:14 AM ^
“No need to worry. Hip (and knee) replacement and some of the most common surgeries in the world.”
True - complication rates are low for good surgeons in a vast preponderance of cases.
“I swear I could do a knee replacement with 6 months of training on the Stryker robot, and I’m not a doctor.”
Well it is good that surgery is as simple as that.
I suppose you would also be able to identify errors and imperfections caused by the robot or in the set up of the robot when they occur and know how to fix them. Also the implications various imperfections have on the patient’s long term outcome. Or whether or not any particular surgery is even indicated for a particular issue - or whether their pain is actually just a tendinous issue that will resolve with conservative treatment. Not to mention if the patient has an anatomic structural or range of motion issue and what you can do about it. As well as the risks of a patient’s various health issues as it relates to their surgical outcome. Plus the literature on prevention of infection and blood clots, the literature on patient outcomes for specific populations, and the literature on various types of implants and whether or not that data is tainted by industry. As well as the knowledge, skill and most importantly dedication to provide for the patient should an infection, failure or other issue occur for any reason throughout the lifetime of the patient. I will stop there but this is actually just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes if only we all had robots!
Sorry but the surgeon and their experience and dedication to the patient is the greatest contributor to success.
Apologies for directing this in your general direction, but this attitude is far to common.
Be consoled, and terrified, that there are plenty of poor quality surgeons that have this same belief.
October 4th, 2018 at 7:46 AM ^
Yup. I will avoid surgery like the plague. I had a coworker die from a clot after a knee surgery. 35 years old. About a month later the exact same thing happened to his father.
October 4th, 2018 at 11:49 AM ^
I'm about to have my third ACL surgery. Wasn't freaking out about it til now. Thanks
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:08 PM ^
I didn’t realized he transferred. I though he was a good back for Clemson?
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
Got charged with armed robbery. I posted a story from the post and courier below.
October 4th, 2018 at 6:00 AM ^
Wow.
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:12 PM ^
I could never imagine sending your child to college and having this happen.
Condolences to his family
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:14 PM ^
Terrible. Hope his family can find peace one day
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:20 PM ^
The exact same thing happened to a former coworker of mine. Scary stuff right there. Thoughts and prayers to his family.
October 3rd, 2018 at 11:21 PM ^
CLEMSON — New details have emerged in the armed robbery case that led to the arrests of former Clemson football players Jadar Johnson and C.J. Fuller last month. According to a 911 call, the incident occurred at a current Clemson football player’s residence.
The Clemson City Police Department released the 911 call from March 28 made by a female in the apartment who said she was the girlfriend of the apartment’s tenant — a member of the football team. The names of the victim and of the football player were redacted in the police report.
The woman, noticeably distraught during the 911 call, told the dispatcher that three men had robbed her at gunpoint after she was taking a nap and woke up to a knock on the door.
“Yeah one of them had a gun, he came in and I tried to push him out and stuff like that and I knew my boyfriend kept a gun,” the woman said. “Since they knew that he also had a gun, I think they grabbed it out of his bedside table.”
According to the woman, all three suspects — Johnson, Fuller and former Duke football player Quaven Ferguson — were wearing hoods. According to the supplemental report, she was able to pull a small patch of hair from one of the suspects after a scuffle between the two.
Two of the men, the victim said, robbed the apartment — taking a large stash of cash and her cell phone — while the third suspect kept watch. According to the police documents, the victim said one of the men had a black hand gun and searched the cabinet above the refrigerator where cash was located, while another was in the back bedroom where there was also cash in the top drawer.
A surveillance video from a Clemson City Parking Deck helped police identify the three men by their car. Video shows Fuller driving a white Mercedes and it shows that he backed into a parking space before he, Johnson and Ferguson got out of the car at 3:39 p.m. in a parking deck. The alleged crime was quick — completed by 3:46 p.m. — and all three have been charged with armed robbery and possession of a weapon during the commission of a crime.
If the apartment’s tenant is a football player, he likely would have been at practice during the time of the incident. The player told police that the only person he knew with a white Mercedes was Fuller and that Fuller would have known where he lived because he had visited the apartment before.
Fuller is a former running back who was Clemson’s starter to open the season in 2017 before losing his starting job to Tavien Feaster. He announced this offseason he would transfer, but had not publicly shared where he was going. A Clemson official confirmed Fuller is currently suspended from the university, meaning he is not enrolled.
Johnson graduated from Clemson in 2016 and was at the Tigers’ indoor facility last month for Pro Day. After he was drafted by the New York Giants in 2016, Johnson stepped away from football and announced he was retiring for personal reasons. Johnson told reporters last month at Clemson that he battled depression, but felt like his mental health was back to where he wanted it to be and that he was ready to make his return to football.
Both were members of Clemson’s 2016 national championship team and have been friends for years. Ferguson is Fuller’s former high school teammate at Easley. All three men have been released on bond and the morning after the alleged event, Johnson reportedly called his mother and told her he “did something stupid.”
Johnson and Fuller are due back in court May 17 at 8:30 a.m. in Pickens County. They face up to 35 years in prison if convicted.
October 4th, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^
Hmm where would a current Clemson football player get a stack of cash?
October 4th, 2018 at 4:24 AM ^
Or a white Mercedes? And why were the names redacted on the police report?
October 4th, 2018 at 12:33 AM ^
You all know Fuller committed the armed robbery of a young woman, right? Is it because he played football once he deserves our sympathies? Look I’m not cold hearted but the guy was clearly a punk. Who holds up a woman at gun point? A thug.
October 4th, 2018 at 12:45 AM ^
Yeah he sounds kinda if shitty but it’s still sad to see a young man die. Or anyone die honestly. Maybe the biggest tragedy is the way his life fell off track somewhere.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:01 AM ^
I get it. This is a football blog and the guy played ball so I’ll lighten up. Just seems perspective is lost at times when dealing with athletes.
October 4th, 2018 at 2:11 AM ^
I get your point. Reminds me of a recent UofM player who is loved around here, but was despicable to a close friend of mine. As fans we see what the media and the player himself portrays. We don't know the person and we should keep that in mind.
October 4th, 2018 at 4:26 AM ^
The guy died. Whatever he did in his life scarcely matters now. He’s dead.
October 4th, 2018 at 6:06 AM ^
Exactly. When Mgohillbilly dies will they show all of his transgressions at his funeral? People are sick! What can he do about it now? These perfect people in here are here to remind others of how shitty of a life he led. So he was a terrible person his whole life? I’m not here to judge nor protect his legacy. However, just know the way you judge or treat others yeah well, you know the rest.
October 4th, 2018 at 6:25 AM ^
That'll be a long funeral.
And who's judging? I never shared my thoughts about the kid. If he lived, maybe he lives a good life or maybe he doesn't and the universe just avoided the death of one or more victims in the future. I shared an article regarding his arrest since the op's linked article referenced an arrest with no details.
October 4th, 2018 at 7:52 AM ^
Wise words, Sr. Quattro.
October 4th, 2018 at 11:17 AM ^
"The guy died. Whatever he did in his life scarcely matters now. He’s dead."
Not to go all Godwin's Law here, but, um, Adolph Hitler would probably not agree with your perspective here...
October 4th, 2018 at 4:37 PM ^
He committed an armed robbery in which nobody died, thankfully...and then he died. This is perspective: He could've lived, been punished, learned, grown, and then been a better person in the years that follow than he was at the moment when he committed the crime. This summer, my twenty-three-year-old nephew was shot down after having gone down the wrong path. He had a five-year-old son. Nobody could say what he'd be like as a forty-five-year-old man. He could've become one of those people you see who's had someone invest in them and believe in them, the ones that end up running inner city community centers or creating after-school programs to help steer kids away from where he'd been. I'm just saying that perspective operates in more than one way, and young knuckleheads sometimes--many times--become different men as they grow older.
October 4th, 2018 at 5:43 AM ^
I can’t imagine. Prayers sent to him and his family. Tragedy such as this really puts life into perspective.
October 4th, 2018 at 6:07 AM ^
Wow, very sad. Prayers for his family.
October 4th, 2018 at 8:03 AM ^
Prayers to his family, friends, and teammates.
October 4th, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^
Prayers go out to all those kids who grow up in shitty ass neighborhoods thinking all this crap is ok. Our environment influences our decisions, and the kids have no choice in that matter. That's what bothers me the most.