MMB 82

March 8th, 2023 at 8:48 PM ^

What always struck me about this GIF was that the third cheerleader from the far end (the brunette) was like the only one who was following the game and reacting to what was going on, aside from the mascot...

translator82

March 8th, 2023 at 5:45 PM ^

Talk about a turbulent ending for his tenure. Rough final years, the curmudgeon in him got more curmudgeony, and then an awkward press release announcing his retirement hours after a buzzer-beating season- and career-ending loss. He said it was the university's decision whether or not they wanted him back after the loss earlier today. Looks like they said "thanks for the memories." 

 

 

ERdocLSA2004

March 8th, 2023 at 5:48 PM ^

He definitely a legend.  The longevity he has there is certainly something to appreciate.  I think he’s probably a good coach and guy but it was time.  It’s supremely hard to win the NCAA tourney but only winning one in his entire tenure is a bit disappointing.  

DoubleB

March 8th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^

I felt they should have beaten Indiana in the 1987 final and his 2012 team lost to OSU in the Elite Eight that was really special, but he went to 5 Final Fours, 20 Sweet 16s. Does anyone see Syracuse as some type of sleeping giant that has underperformed? I don't. 

The Syracuse hoops wikipedia page is something to behold. They started basketball 120 years ago. They've had 7 head coaches.

blueheron

March 8th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^

Something that might blow your mind: Boeheim has been on the Syracuse sideline since 1969. (He was an assistant for several years before being made the head coach in 1976, which is also obviously a long time ago.)

Cam

March 8th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^

Think about this: the Syracuse basketball program was founded in 1898, and Jim Boeheim has half of their wins. That's insane.

Naked Bootlegger

March 8th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^

I came of age during the 1980's.   I lived and breathed Big 10 and Big East hoops during that period.   Boeheim's Syracuse teams competed in a ruthlessly difficult conference during that era.   Fun times.   

47 years at one institution is unthinkable.  Congrats on enduring, Coach Boeheim.  May you continue scheming new ways to frustrate opponents with aggravatingly annoying 2-3 zones from your armchair for many more years.

Romulan Commander

March 8th, 2023 at 6:38 PM ^

As a Syracuse native, who got my MA there, I have to say Boeheim (another CNY native) did the school and community good. It was time for him to go (maybe past the time tbh) but like the snow dumped on the Salt City by a lake effect storm, he was stubborn to the end. Enjoy the turquoise clear waters of Skaneateles Lake, coach.

translator82

March 8th, 2023 at 11:58 PM ^

I've got cousins and their families in Syracuse and I consider the region like a third home. I've seen it first-hand: SU sports drive that region since it has no pro sports teams (it does have minor league baseball and hockey, but the Orange are treated like a pro team). Mainly, the Boeheim-driven hoops teams are what everyone looked forward to. The football team has only seen minor glimmers of competency in the post-Donovan McNabb era the past 20+ years. 

Also: +1 re: Lake Skaneateles...especially during the fall (well, anywhere in Central New York during the fall is special).

njvictor

March 8th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^

I don't really have thoughts on Syracuse one way or another, but Boeheim is a legend and deserves better than how Syracuse handled moving on from him. I understand he's been declining in quality the last few years, but they could've handled moving on from him much more gracefully given that he's been there for 47 years

Sambojangles

March 8th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^

I'm not sure if the "moving on" from a old, tenured, successful coach ever works gracefully. Every case is awkward: the Coach K retirement tour was embarrassing for everyone outside of Duke, Jay Wright just quit seemingly randomly, earlier than most would have expected I think, Beilein left for the NBA, and Bobby Knight got fired. 

There's no great way to handle it, especially with declining success on the court. The timing today was weird but at least it was to the point and brutally honest, which is refreshing and respectful in a way. These guys are basketball coaches, not saints. If they're not getting the job done, you don't need to massage their ego any more. And to Boeheim's credit, I don't think he asked for any special treatment at the end of his career.

Leatherstocking Blue

March 9th, 2023 at 9:44 AM ^

I never understood how he could recruit players when his press conferences humiliated and belittled his own players on a regular basis. 

But he and his wife, like a lot of long-time coaches, did a lot of charity work in the area, and he is the only coach many in the Syracuse area know, so he's got that going for him.

Blue Vet

March 8th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^

Meeting with administrators as Syracuse, I was trying to make nice as the conversation turned to  Boeheim. I started by talking about what an impressive record he had but I couldn't help myself and added, "...though he does whine."

The administrator surprised me, totally agreeing that Boeheim was a whiner.

907_UM Nanook

March 8th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^

The old Big East hayday was an amazing time in CBB history - and the 'Cuse were up at the top. That said, Boeheim teams took a massive nosedive in the last 5 - 8 years & he's had plenty of controversy. I'm not a fan of Boeheim post-Carmelo. Definitely happy for the fans that he's gone - they were due for a re-boot. That zone defense is totally out-dated in the modern era of 3-point shooting.

DoubleB

March 8th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^

I don't think this is a reload situation like say Duke. Is Boeheim so synonymous with Syracuse basketball that his departure sets the stage for a generation of mediocrity in the program?

I honestly don't know, but I don't think this a tier 2 job in the scheme of college basketball. 

swc_92

March 8th, 2023 at 6:49 PM ^

Sounds like this was a "retire" with dignity or we're going to fire you scenario to me. I've got family that are SU alums and season ticket holders, they say that he wore out his welcome over the past few years with the fanbase, in particular over his refusal to adapt and drop the zone. Regardless, I'm sure that my cousin and I will continue to argue over whether the Jordan Morgan & Brandon Triche block/charge was called correctly (obviously it was!)

acjgoblu

March 8th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^

I was born and raised in Syracuse in the 80s and 90s, and man was it a great time to be a Cuse fan. Great team after great team, amazing players every year, and such cohesiveness of the city around the team. The Dome was such an awesome place to watch a game, and Boeheim was in the middle of it all. I went to school with one of his kids, and the whole family was super friendly and humble. I'll always remember running down the halls of MoJo in joy in March 2003 when the Orangemen won the title during my freshman year at UM.  

Despite some good tourney runs in the last several years, it's all felt like the team has been on a 10 year downslide as of late, and unfortunately that's largely attributed to Boeheim's refusal to abide by a succession plan. I'll always appreciate what he did for the school, but the way he overstayed his welcome already lost us both Mike Hopkins and a significant amount of recruiting momentum. 

That said, the memories of the good times will be the ones that stick with me. He may have been a curmudgeon, but he was our curmudgeon, and any Central NYer would go to bat for him any day. All the best to him and his family in retirement.