OT: 'Horrible' strike three ends Miss. Valley State v. New Orleans

Submitted by phoolishphil on March 13th, 2023 at 8:25 PM

I saw this on ESPN.com

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=35836017

 

A horrible call, a blatant call against a team or player for personal reasons...

It made me think 'That is a call Michigan would get called against them!'

 

That ump has been suspended by the conference. 

 

 

 

LSAClassOf2000

March 13th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^

The umpire made it personal, which you should never, ever do in that position. 

I am not sure what the guidelines are for filing a protest in the NCAA or with the Southland Conference (I think that's the right one), but I absolutely would. 

Buy Bushwood

March 14th, 2023 at 3:19 PM ^

At least that was close enough that physics professors actually tried to model solutions.  The Higdon one, in case you missed it: he got a fake hand off and ran into the line and the LB tackled him as if he had gotten to ball.  It was a form tackle and Hidgon didn't resist in any way.  UM proceeded to get a big gain on the QB keeper, that got called back due to "holding" Higdon who literally didn't even lift his arms up from his sides as he was being tackled.  I'm just speaking about the quality of calls in an absolute and isolated sense.  People argue about the spot, with one state on one side, another state on the other.  If OSU had beaten us because of that call, the 1% of people in Ohio who are intelligent, and not serial killers, would at least concede the error.  

IndyBlue

March 14th, 2023 at 9:01 AM ^

Saw this clip on Twitter a few days ago.  There were a lot of people in the replies saying the player deserved it for showing up the ump after the called second strike.  I couldn't believe there were people defending the ump, but I guess I should have expected it as Twitter is just a dumpster fire. 

Harball sized HAIL

March 13th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^

We just don't even need umps fucking up games anymore.  The technology has been there for a couple decades at least.  It always cracked me up how they would say: "They get the call right about 90% of the time".  Yeah you know why?  Because a pop fly that ends up in a mitt still has to be called an out.  A guy that's out on the base path by 15' has to be ruled out.  Everyone watching knows its a fucking out.  A swing and miss still has to be ruled a strike.  A foul ball a foul, etc., etc. That skews their stats big time.  Replay has proven over and over that in CLOSE plays - they get it right just slightly more that 50% of the time.

lilpenny1316

March 13th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^

Poor look for the ump. If he was upset after the previous pitch, he should've thrown the kid out of the game and force someone off the bench to finish the at-bat. 

EJG

March 13th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^

That is obviously a poor call.  I still play about 100 baseball games per year in leagues and tournaments.  The batter was on the verge of being tossed for his theatrics and drawing the line of the pitch before with his bat.  Drawing the line is showing up the umpire and it will piss them off every time.  I had a pitch bounce in the other batter's box called a strike.  I stepped on the plate and showed the umpire where the ball made a mark with the end of my bat and simply said, "that pitch hit right here".  I got tossed.  One thing I've learned about hitting a baseball -  You get three strikes; make one of them count.  But do not ever show up the umpire like that or they will either run you or expand the zone (usually not that much though).

mGrowOld

March 13th, 2023 at 9:22 PM ^

So are baseball umpires so incredibly insecure that the slightest implication that they’re less than perfect results in either you being ejected or them basically cheating to ensure your failure?

This is the nonsense that screams for robot umpires.   Sorry fat, tenured shitty umps you’ll need to find a new job where your incompetence isn’t criticized by anyone.

Good luck with that.

Michael

March 14th, 2023 at 1:37 AM ^

Honestly man, there should be both a real and perceived difference in what amounts to "showing up" an umpire is. Your example of "drawing the line" is borderline absurd because 99.5% of a baseball viewership won't interpret that to be against the "unwritten rules" of showing up the umpire. You shouldn't have been tossed from that game and it's weird you think it was justified.

Was what this batter did "showing up the umpire?" Sure, yeah, it was, and it was honestly pretty egregious. But it doesn't excuse this sort of unprofessionalism from the umpire.

Mgrowold has a point here, which is that this old school baseball unwritten rules shit is going to result in roboumps, which would be a travesty for baseball at all levels. It's in the interest of those of us who think ourselves as on the baseball purism spectrum to call out the silliness in baseball where we can. 

Sam1863

March 14th, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^

The called third was horrible, a blatant "FU" call by the ump. Being suspended by the league is fitting.

Having said that, the batter was acting like an asshole after the second strike. Yes, I thought it was low, but it was certainly a lot closer, and didn't deserve the histrionics of jumping around in the box.

I hope that player's coach has a firm word with him about modifying his behavior when close calls don't go his way. Otherwise, he'll find that his strike zone gets larger and larger as the season goes on.

mGrowOld

March 14th, 2023 at 9:59 AM ^

While what you say is undoubtably true, it also speaks volumes as to why there's such a strong push for robo-umps.

1. Ump fucks up a call

2. Player negatively impacted by fucked up call points out the call was fucked up

3. Ump then proceeds to fuck up even more calls in "revenge" for the fucked up call they made being noticed

pz

March 13th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^

I mean it wasn't the right thing to do for the kid or for the sake of the game.... but it is also kinda hilarious, especially given the reaction to the previous call.

 

https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1634925065790959619

 

MIMark

March 13th, 2023 at 9:22 PM ^

Horrible call. And I would love to know what the catcher was saying to the batter after "strike 3". It seemed to me the catcher was trying to cool down an opposing player, keep him from saying something he would quickly come to regret. That is all class.

1VaBlue1

March 14th, 2023 at 8:13 AM ^

I saw that too, I don't know what he said but it obviously worked.  Great move by the catcher because that kid could been tossed from college sports if it went the wrong way.  You can't touch the ump, and it looked like it was going that way...

Not that the ump didn't deserve a good punch to the face.

1VaBlue1

March 14th, 2023 at 8:16 AM ^

I don't think the batters reaction was all that.  He reacted to a blatantly bad call, perhaps poorly, but he didn't get in anyone's face or belabor the point.  He reacted, pointed to a spot ('it was RIGHT here'), and manned up for the next pitch.  No big deal, and the ump should have accepted it as a valid response to a horrible call.

You won't believe what happened next...

TruBluMich

March 13th, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^

This leaves out that they lost the next 2 games after this by a combined score of 51-6, which included losing 35-3 the very next game. They've yet to play another game after those 2.

That umpire clearly did more damage than just ringing up a player on an obvious retaliation call. Although he was already suspended and did not officiate either of those 2 games.

AC1997

March 13th, 2023 at 10:06 PM ^

I can't believe he didn't toss the batter after the previous pitch for his antics.  Never seen a batter jump around arguing balls and strikes and not get tossed.  Then the ump is even more childish on the next pitch.  

Booted Blue in PA

March 14th, 2023 at 9:17 AM ^

The ump knew he blew the call on strike 2.

 

you tell players to forget their mistake and move on to the next play.

someone needs to tell that former ump to forget the blown call on strike 2 and move on to the next pitch.  what a sorry POS that dude is. 

hfhmilkman

March 14th, 2023 at 9:53 AM ^

This reminds me of when I used to play city league softball in AA.  Our team was not very good because we were a bunch of techies going up against obviously physically capable people.  There was a mercy rule.  But sometimes we were hanging in there.  But in the name of getting the game done, the strike zone would expand to obscene proportions.  I don't care if our team stunk.  We came to practice and gave it our best shot to compete.  I hated those umpires who in the name of moving the game along took my at bats away.  I just wanted to get on base one more time and compete to the end.  They just wanted to stay on schedule.