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My father has had Parkinsons…

My father has had Parkinsons for over 25 years.  What has helped him is being on the right medication.   There is also circumstantial evidence that a clean diet that reduces inflammation can help.   I have weight trained for decade and next July will be 35 years.  I would think that weight training would help.

I have never lifted super heavy.  I have peaked out bench press.  Dead lifts and squats were too scary.   I did not like seeing my entire body compress when loaded up.  I am an ectomorph and not a big person.   I find weight training incredibly useful for weight control.   Even though I do not train as long and hard as I used to, my weight has remained in a 5 pound window for most of it.  

Any young folks out there looking for good habits, moderate weight training is not nearly the time sink as other aerobic exercises and less likely to cause injury if done properly.   

 

  

I love the use of the…

I love the use of the physics analogy and light.   Thanks for taking out the time for another excellent punt/counter-punt.  And that counts for ants too.  :)

Many QB's who look to run…

Many QB's who look to run first have very high sack numbers.  Michael Vick had an obscene sack rate even during his peak years.  A less athletic QB will throw the ball away.  I have also read comments that Milroe likes to hold the ball a long time.  Remember, he was taking a lot of deep shots.  That means having to hold the ball an extra second.  Sack rate in this case is more attitude of the QB.

In honor of MGOBLOG team…

In honor of MGOBLOG team preview it is not CRYIN RYAN but CYAN RYAN.

NE was in the same situation…

NE was in the same situation.  They chose to fight all the way.  They could have accepted the four fame suspension on Tom Brady from the very beginning.  They fought all the way because they believed they were being punished for an inflatable object having a lower pressure in cold weather.  Guilty parties and cowards settle.  We are one of them.  NE the football organization was neither.

I am of the opinion that the…

I am of the opinion that the reason why the rule has not been removed is because big programs can afford dedicated sign stealers and throw resources at the problem.  Small programs cannot.  Thus what was intended to level the playing field generates an unfair advantage for some.  If high schools can afford radios in helmets, so can any college football program.

Not worried about Coach…

Not worried about Coach Prime because just as he is coming, he is also going.  

This is a concept I have…

This is a concept I have played with for a couple years.  I rejected relegation.  I would rather have teams volunteer to participate in the Div they want to compete at.  This would be determined by how much money a school is willing to pay.   I do not like the idea of relegation because a single bad year could crush a program if all the recruits walk.  So make it be if you are willing to pay your players, you are in the championship league.  If you want to be an old style school where your football players are also students, you are in league B.  

Teams like Georgia that have the money are in the Championship league.  Teams like Texas A&M and Texas that want to be there and want to pay their way are also in.  Teams like Iowa that play fine football but have no chance of competing in this new pay era, will stay in the amateur league.  The reality is that any decent player on a team that can't pay is going to leave to a paying team.  Iowa will never be able to compete against a team like Texas.  

This will make college football less interesting.  But this is the reality.  It is sort of pointless to have even a stumbling Texas play Iowa or a Wisconsin in relegation because Iowa might not want to move up.  What is the point of moving up if it means losing every game the following year?  

American football is in a worse state because every club pays their players.  Many athletic departments do not have budget to pay anyone.  Nor do all schools have infinite numbers of alum who live their glory through donating millions of dollars for no return.  Their budget is going to be zero.

 

If I recall, he was with the…

If I recall, he was with the Cardinals and he played the Lions.  I also recall for interceptions.  No knock for anyone trying their hardest.  But the Wolverines could have done better at QB.

If you do not need a power…

If you do not need a power washer with a capital P, I found a great one carried by Ace Hardware.   What I hate about PW's is they can be tough to man handle, especially with the hose connected to them.  I am one of those clumsy folks.  I also lost the previous PW because I forgot to drain it and the water ruptured the block when winter came.  Take a look at arblueclean.com    The brand is called BlueClean.  Its a maximum PSI of 1700.  This is perfect for me because I just need something to powerwash the deck or clean up the outside of the house.  

What I love is the very light weight.  It has a smaller footprint than a vacuum cleaner.  It is so small I have it tucked away in a corner of my boiler room.  

When I first heard there was…

When I first heard there was a show about a guy in a suit hanging out with a muppet,I decided not to bother.

No fair!  I spent my entire…

No fair!  I spent my entire life pumping iron and I got to 5.  But it took me a decade to get to that.  It was rocking to see so many people excited and egging him on.  Looking forward to seeing lots of linebackers getting run over.

Crawford and Poole were…

Crawford and Poole were different than Jett Howard in that they were alpha dogs.  They were the focal point of a college offense and for better or worse were willing to take the shot.  In fact there is still friction in GS because Poole is still taking shots his coaches/peers would rather he not. 

The meta problem with Jett Howard is that he has never been an alpha dog.  He was third fiddle on a HS team.  In college he acted like a sidekick not a leader.  Jett has never had to be the leader.  Now he is going to go to the NBA and be a sidekick again.  Unlike Franz Wagner, I believe Jett Howards development will be delayed because he does not have this experience.  This is the one thing college can do.  It can put a player in a position where something matters and they have to try to seize it.  Thats priceless.

I am going to speculate on…

I am going to speculate on the meta question that I believe has impact.  The NBA values possibility not certainty which is the opposite of the rest of the world.  An individual has more value if he is younger, and his skill set has not been defined yet.  The strange reasoning of NBA GM's is that a player "COULD" have that ceiling.  This encourages players to declare early because if their value as a PRO is defined, their value is decreased.  The NBA literally values the two birds in the bush verses the bird in hand.

This means that fewer players make the decision of Franz Wagner who played himself into a higher pick by remaining another year.  Using math terms, I set the variables C equals ceiling and F equals' floor.  C is greater than F.   A player's real value is X.  A players perceived value in year one is between F and C.  NBA execs are inclined to say X equals C.  If a player waits a year, they fear that X will become known and most likely not equal C but be some value less than C.  Why bother proving you are close to C, if the NBA execs are making that conclusion anyway?  The worst thing you could do is for them to discover the real value of X.

Franz Wagner ultimately made a mistake in that a FOMO exec would have picked him high anyway.  I dispute this logic because I believe people who stay like Franz Wagner learn how to be leaders by being the alphas of a team verses having to be a sidekick and traveling 50 days a year.

Bile?  What is wrong with…

Bile?  What is wrong with bile?  I will direct my ire towards the group responsible.  The problem is NBA directors of personnel.  The NBA raised the draft age not because individuals were not physically ready, but to avoid the Kwame Brown debacle.  A year in college in theory would give the NBA better scouting on players so they would not waste a number one pick on a stinker.

My retort is what is the point of waiting a year if NBA GM's are still completely enamored with potential over a finished product?  Anyone watching last year's game against Villanova game would have concluded that Diabate and Houstan were not remotely ready for the NBA.  How can they stay in the NBA when the team was better off with Brandon Johns and Terrance Williams at the forwards at least in that game?  Whatever potential they had was esoteric and fleeting.  No wonder why there are so many crummy franchises in the NBA.  Many seem to be incapable of evaluating basketball talent or be stuck in the FOMO rut.

What does this mean for Michigan going forward?  As long as the NBA is in the FOMO realm, I would not even consider anyone with NBA potential unless it is a finished product to be the cherry on the sunday.  I would go after every undersized guard, every tweener, and every big man who is active but who has no perimeter game.  But not too much hops.  Else, the FOMO guys come looking.  If you want to win in college, you want Joey Hauser, not Jett Howard.

 

Its kind of hard to play on…

Its kind of hard to play on ball defense when your 2nd and 3rd guards are forwards.

There is a reason Beilein…

There is a reason Beilein left.  Figuring out a roster has become impossible.  Players can leave for any reason and anyone that has a sniff of pro potential leaves.  It appears the only recourse is to recruit players who are obviously not NBA potential in the hopes that they will be motivated to stay in college for the length of their eligibility.  A little guy like McDaniel and a slow guy like Dickinson might be the proper base.  Find a shooting guard who is lights out but a little too small.  Or a wing who is atheltic and can slash but marginal on the permitter.  Now you might have a team that stays together for a few years.

This reminds me of when I…

This reminds me of when I used to play city league softball in AA.  Our team was not very good because we were a bunch of techies going up against obviously physically capable people.  There was a mercy rule.  But sometimes we were hanging in there.  But in the name of getting the game done, the strike zone would expand to obscene proportions.  I don't care if our team stunk.  We came to practice and gave it our best shot to compete.  I hated those umpires who in the name of moving the game along took my at bats away.  I just wanted to get on base one more time and compete to the end.  They just wanted to stay on schedule.

Beilein left for exactly the…

Beilein left for exactly the reasons UM is struggling this year.  Every player with the slightest sniff of NBA viability is leaving prematurely.  Even projects that play a few decent games get a look from someone.  It was not just the premature leaving of Poole and Iggy that frustrated Beilein, but even diamonds in the rough like DJ Wilson left.  

Can someone tell me why Jett…

Can someone tell me why Jett Howard is the best NBA prospect in the Big10?  His play to me seems to be Caleb Houstan 2.0 with a bit more volume.  Same height, same empty stats, same inconsistent shot, same effort.  What Orlando saw in Houstan, I don't know.  

I disagree with the premise…

I disagree with the premise.  It may have been the case of Michigan in the early 2000's when Carr did not put a premium on bringing in good assistants.   However, I disagree that Miami, FSU, and USC fell behind because they were not investing in coaches and facilities.  

To be at the top of college football now requires an unapologetic, uncompromising, focus on doing what is necessary.   The biggest problem from the NCAA, to the sports networks, to the broadcasters, all the way down to us is we are living this illusion that collegiate sports is an amateur activity.  This is more than guaranteeing bag money to potential recruits as the bar will be moved by some other future innovation.  This is inevitable if there is not a sober reevaluation of what college athletics has become.  

I would I would like to see is UM instead of stooping to the same low level is force the NCAA's hand and declare what we already know.  There is no such thing as a student athlete.  There are only employees.  Put it out front in that this is what your services are worth.

Apologies for the diatribe:

Apologies for the diatribe:

First a few comments.  When a sports official makes a mistake in the flow of a game, I may note it.  If its a team I care about, I may be upset for some length of time.  I may be emotional about that officials failure.  But any negative emotion directed towards said referee goes away.  Just like coaches, players, and us in our professions, we all make mistakes.  Sports officials, like everyone else in theory are measured on their performance.  Bad officials will not referee games of significance, or so I hope.  There is no way for humans to get every call right. Officiating is hard.  Bad calls are random and not directed against a single side.   The refs do not have it out for the team I am rooting for.

The TD call overturned as down at the one may have changed the outcome of the game or may not.  I am not going to say Michigan would have absolutely won if it had.  The bad call happened early enough so there was recourse.  It was a perfect storm of events that made it possible for TCU to win the game.  I have no clue on what would have happened.

I work for a telecommunications provider.  Sometimes my company because of its conduct enrages our customers into a tizzy.  They are angry because of mistakes and failures of either individuals or processes.  We have a process where failure is analyzed not to cast blame but to ask what can we do to prevent the event in the future.  What I find is what the customer wants most is communication of ownership.  A customer will not be happy for what happened.  But if someone says, "Hi I am hfhmilkman, as a voice of this company we blew it, apologize for it, and this is what we are going to do to make sure this does not happen again", they just want the ownership that I communicated that I am aware of their hurt.   90% of what angry customers want is fessing up to the failure.  They may still be unhappy with the result and suspicious of the communicated changes, but they are out of face eating mode.

Now to the theme of this thread.  My anger is two-fold.  I do not understand how a replay can be botched so badly.  There is no stress of having to make a call in the heat of the moment.  An official of a sport in theory knows not just the rules of the sport but the rules of replay.  I presume the rule is that you only overturn if there is obvious evidence that the call on the field is wrong.  The worse that should have occurred is not enough evidence to overturn.  Reading this thread there is the speculation that the replay official did not have the right video feed.

Now I put on my customer hat.  Why are customers angry?  They are angry because they feel helpless.  I as a customer of college football witnessed a terrible call.  I am not enraged not because a terrible replay decision was made, but because I feel helpless.  There is no ownership by whoever is in charge that a terrible failure happened.  We all witnessed the fumble being overturned by replay in the MSU game.  So it happens over and over.  I feel that whoever is in charge is just another elemental force like the weather, unmoved, uncaring about the destruction it causes to the denizens of the earth.  Welcome to the officiating wall.

I am not mad at Harbaugh for calling a ridiculous Philly Special.  He owned it.  I am not mad at JJ McCarthy for throwing interceptions not that I could ever be angry at a kid or even a professional going all out.  They own the failure.  The customers whom my company failed are no longer angry because they know I cared because I told them I was aware of their pain.   I am mad at who ever is in charge of officiating.  Regardless if someone does care, I "feel" that they don't.  I feel they are unmoved at their own failures and nothing will change.  If they being whoever is in charge of officials could communicate that they failed, how they failed, and what they will do in the future, I would no longer be angry.  And I am still angry.  I am angry not because of a human failure, but refusal to own up to the failure.

 

 

Unless its the NC, a bowl…

Unless its the NC, a bowl win does not mean anything any longer.  All the other bowls are to get extra practice and see what you have for next year.

Yet this slow plodding…

Yet this slow plodding offense scored 39 points in the 2nd half, scored 45 for the game, despite leaving at least 10 points on the table. 

I am confused.  A lot of…

I am confused.  A lot of word written and I still have no idea what the exact problem is or what the solution should be.  I look at the NCAA guidelines.  It states that NIL is not supposed to be an enticement for signing a letter of intent.  So, what is the answer.  Is it we promise NIL to recruits?  Or do we hire a birdy that whispers in their ear the exact amount they will get even if coach is saying nothing.  I have been in debates that NIL promises are just administrative.  It seems pretty clear to me.  Either some kind of information is getting to a 5 star that they are getting X, a 4 star Y, and who cares if you are a preferred walkon, or this information is not available.

This reminds me of NANOG…

This reminds me of NANOG(North America Network Operations Group).   People will make a presentation on something that has to do with Networking Infrastructure.  During Q&A the peanut gallery will come out to show how clever they are by showing how stupid you are because you did not consider "THAT!"  

Its about following the…

Its about following the rules even if the rule cannot be enforced.  A lot of people speed and cheat on their taxes.  No one will be aware other then you and your maker.  UM does not speed nor cheat on taxes either.

What was essential to the…

What was essential to the Japanese that Guadalcanal was a "lifeline"?  Guadalcanal had consequences for the security of Australia.  The co-prosperity sphere was secure.

There are also historians that view the Pacific war as a sideshow.   This is not to belittle the hard fighting that was done, just that even the Japanese high command knew that the final result was not in doubt if the Americans had the will to see it through.  Unlike a football game that has a defined end, wars do not.  The only question for the Japanese was how long would it take for them to lose.

The real inflection point in my opinion was Midway.  If Japan had scored a decisive victory the United States would have had to prioritize defense.  That might have bought the Japanese a couple more years. 

To A2Townie.  I concur.  I…

To A2Townie.  I concur.  I would rather have Livers.  My point is from the perspective of NBA executives.  Livers was a low end 2nd round pick.  Houstan was the 32nd pick.  My point is Orlando would not use the 32nd pick if Houstan was 23.  I believe that Orlando believes that Houstan has a higher ceiling than Livers, but only because of the age difference because Houstan is an unknown. 

I have always liked Livers because he is not just a dependable shooter, but does all of the other things.  Houstan has some good length.  But today he is too slow. 

A comment on Houstan. …

A comment on Houstan.  Recall what the Mgoblog folks said.  The hope was for Houstan to play the stretch four position.  The reasoning is Houstan was a defense liability at the SF position.  This would work for college.  There is no way Houstan has the strength to play PF at the NBA level or the agility to measure up against NBA SF's.  

The only way Houstan can remain in the league is become a consistent sniper.  Except he was not this in college.  The quality of Houstan's looks in college were far higher than what he is going to see in the NBA.  Unfortunately, you get that by lots of game time, not riding the bench.

What is the difference between Houstan or Livers except one is four years younger.  That is the only reason the Magic are taking a shot.  My theory is that Houstan unlike Wagner is not confident in his game and took the money as he does have value because of his age.  If Houstan were 23, he would be worthless to the Magic as they would say you are who you are.

 

 

If I got to puking, I was in…

If I got to puking, I was in serious trouble., Now I was a smaller person playing basketball.  No clue what the puke profile of big people are.  Can they puke and go on?  Puking and cramping meant stop! If I ignored, that would mean a situation only fixed by an IV.  

Here is my take on should a…

Here is my take on should a player stay or go.  Surprised no one brought up the case study of Franz Wagner.  I would argue both are right and its situational.

If you are a real NBA prospect but incomplete, it makes sense to remain in college.  It is for two reasons.  One, you delay signing a rookie contract until you have completed your skill set.  Two, you get better by playing and being the alpha dog in meaningful situations.  You can't do that riding the NBA bench or being in the G league.  Pressure turns coal into diamonds.  A great example is Franz Wagner.  He showed in his 2nd year he was a complete player.  All those missed 3pt shots in college in game time situations helped him figure out what he needed to work on.  He is a better player and made a lot more money by staying at Michigan a year.

If you are a player and you know you are a borderline talent, it might make sense to go sooner rather than later.  The NBA is all about potential.  Caleb Houstan is more valuable as a NBA prospect than Issiah Livers because Houstan is 3 years younger and his agreed upon talent level is not set even though I would argue that it is clear Livers is a better all-around player. But we know what Livers NBA game is, ergo less valuable.  Just like you can get your price for your house because you only need one fool, Houstan only needs one foolish GM to bet higher.  If Houstan realizes his NBA potential is capped, better to declare early while a fool takes a reach.  Houstan could make more money coming out early because if he remains in college, he becomes a known commodity.  Then his value would drop like it did for Livers.

 

That is the punchline to me…

That is the punchline to me.  What is the increased risk of a loss in lowa City while a young QB goes through growing pains to have a better opportunity to win in Columbus?  Can you manage both, with the caveat that duel QB situations have the complications this board has listed.

The biggest knock against…

The biggest knock against Diabate and Houstan is their play in the Big10 and NCAA tournament, especially in the last game against Villanova.  Both were benched because they could not handle the moment be it offense, defense, or just holding on to the ball.  Every team has footage of Michigan having a better chance to win because both were on the bench.  Neither is ready.  My prediction is both will go undrafted.

The problem with Houstan is…

The problem with Houstan is he had 7 games where he hit almost half of all of 3's.  He was 28-43 in those games.  He shot 32-126 in the other 27.  Another way is break the season down in seven sections of 5, 4, 5, 4, 7, 4, and 5 games.  Sections 2, 4, and 6, Houstan was a viable scorer.  In 1, 3, 5, and 7 including the tournament he essentially was not there and a liability on offense. Then again the draft is like selling a home.  You only need to convince one idiot.  

Magic Johnson is certainly a…

Magic Johnson is certainly a top 20 all time player.  But he was existed in an era where there were no other big play makers.  Six five plus player makers are not uncommon.  Magic would find it much more difficult to post and bully smaller guards because they are all bigger and stronger but just as fast.  The 3pt shot also gives the advantage to the sniper and Magic was never a great perimeter player be it offense or defense.  Also there is much more of a commitment to defense.  The age of running down the court for 40 free easy points is over.  

Diabate's defense was so…

Diabate's defense was so overwhelming or underwhelming UM coaching staff felt compelled to give major minutes to Brandon Johns in the Villanova game despite it known that Johns offensive confidence was shot.  I saw too many smaller players post him and score right over him.  There is a lot of athletic ability but right now not a lot of developed basketball skill be it offense or defense.  He could not even catch the ball.

This is a huge mistake and…

This is a huge mistake and represents the impatience of these young players.  If Diabate remains and does not improve, he will be drafted roughly in the same place which is low 2nd round or not at all.  If he does improve, he goes into the NBA being able to command a much higher salary.  The NCAA tape is far more indicative than any scrimmage.  In the most of intense of games, he was benched for Brandon Johns who could not hit a shot to save his life.  

I am of the opinion that…

I am of the opinion that Diabate going pro early is a mistake for him.  We all saw his play in the tournament.   Diabate is an athletic marvel who is the equivalent of the guy with the really deep voice who has no communications skills.  Basketball still requires skills.  The NBA is a terrible place to develop because if you are a work in progress you will be spending all of your time sitting on a bench or traveling.   Diabate was so clueless at the end that Howard took his chances with Brandon Johns which says a lot.   Diabate was so out of it he could not even catch an entry pass.  If Diabate could not do anything against Villanova's undersized front court, what is going to happen in the NBA when he is up against athletes who are perhaps not twitchy as him but are an order of magnitude better then what he observed in college.  If anyone has a track record for developing a big man, I would say that is Juwan Howard.  Yet Diabate thinks he will get better instruction in the G league?

That all said my understanding from pundits is that UM will improve via subtraction as Houstan can drop down to the 4 where he will have better matchups.  If I had a choice of Dickinson/Houstan verse Diabate/Houstan I would choose the former.  Diabate would be better off transferring then bolting for the pro's.  

 

I concur.  Poole broke…

I concur.  Poole broke records for shooting futility his first year in the league.  

Michael Jordan looked pretty…

Michael Jordan looked pretty lame being guarded by Dan Dakich in his last tournament game.  Never judge a player especially a young player in a single game.

Part of being a mega sports…

Part of being a mega sports fan is eating the loss.  Consuming so much doo doo makes victories that much tastier.  If the goal is the championship, then most of the time we as fanatics are going to be disappointed.  But every step along the way is enjoyed.

I would also add that if victory is essential for being a passionate fan, what kind of fan are you?  The 1984 Tigers WS win was all the sweeter for those who experienced the building from 1975-1983.  Losing is part of life.  We can get used to it or try again.

I do not see how Diabate and…

I do not see how Diabate and even remotely consider declaring PRO even for the Mexico painters league.  His offensive skills devolved into an inability to even properly posses the ball much less do anything meaningful with it.  

In regards to what happened…

In regards to what happened to Zona, part of the problem is the NFL always adjusts.  Teams are now on the Zona horizontal passing game.  Without Hopkins to bail the offense out with his ridiculousness, it is just a matter of squatting on everything short and spying Murray.  The question for Zona is can they come up with a counter.

We should appreciate the…

We should appreciate the insanity of the mgoblog contributers who deluge us with so much fabulous content.  I have a nephew who was attempting the sports journalism gig.  He burned out as the demands made it no longer fun.  Because of mgoblog I can talk s$#$ as if I know split zone.  I certainly have enough talking points to blow smoke that only a coach or player is going to see through.

We should appreciate the…

We should appreciate the insanity of the mgoblog contributers who deluge us with so much fabulous content.  I have a nephew who was attempting the sports journalism gig.  He burned out as the demands made it no longer fun.  Because of mgoblog I can talk s$#$ as if I know split zone.  I certainly have enough talking points to blow smoke that only a coach or player is going to see through.

We should appreciate the…

We should appreciate the insanity of the mgoblog contributers who deluge us with so much fabulous content.  I have a nephew who was attempting the sports journalism gig.  He burned out as the demands made it no longer fun.  Because of mgoblog I can talk s$#$ as if I know split zone.  I certainly have enough talking points to blow smoke that only a coach or player is going to see through.

Franz is staying because I…

Franz is staying because I made an offer he could not refuse.  I know the weakness of Germans.  I offered access to my currant bushes in exchanging for playing for another year.  I don't just have red currants, pink currants, black currants, champagne currants, and white currants.  But I also have polka dotted currants, plaid currants, and even chameleon currants.  :)

My favorite story is we were…

My favorite story is we were playing at the park and Gary Grant fresh off his rookie contract drove up in his new car with Sean Higgins and Anton Joubert in tow.  They split up the players.  We were stuck with Sean Higgins and lost because he would only take 40 foot shots.  Joubert could not hit a shot outside the paint to save his life.  But Gary Grant was a sight to behold.  Even when not taking anything seriously he was like a comic book superhero and we were nothing.

My friend was taking the ball up the court and crossed over on Gary Grant.  He being a mere mortal had time to be proud that he just crossed over on Gary Grant.  I witnessed what happened next in gory detail.  Gary Grant surveyed the scene.  Watched my friend cross and pass him plus read my friends entire life story.  Then Gary Grant idly reached over my friends shoulder and plucked the ball away as if were some toy from an infant.  The filch was so blurringly fast, I could barely comprehend what happened.  My friend continued up the court unaware that he no longer had the rock and Gary Grant had already scored again in some leisurely obscene way.

 

I saw multiple cases where…

I saw multiple cases where UM guards turned down open 3pt opportunities they had taken in the past.  Only Brown seemed to have the confidence.  UM went from everyone other then Dickenson being a 3pt threat at midseason to very limited.  With Livers out and Wagner shooting 2-16 for the tournament, UM became a team vulnerable to defenses packing it in.

I was hoping that Wagner might be convinced to come back to work on perimeter game.  I  know that potential is far more valuable then reality as like a speculative stock once your ceiling is determined you are no longer valuable.