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1 week 11 hours ago I don't care about stars if Mattison wants the guy

If arguablly the best Dcoordinator in college football wants a player, I do not care about the stars.  If Mattison wants the guy and the ratings agencies say 3, I trust Mattison over all of them.

2 weeks 2 days ago 2 stars verses 5 stars

I think one of the problems with the analysis is that many 2 stars are missed even by the team that recruits them.   If a team relies on 2 stars for the bulk of the team, one sleeper on a roster of 75 is not going to help much unless he is a ridiculous QB or RB.   So it makes sense that on average a 2 star who ends up having superior NFL talent is not going to translate to wins.  Recruiting darkhorse 2stars only works if the coaching staff is savy enough to pick and attract several.  For basketball people have used Belein as an example.  Basketball is easier because you only have to be right for one or two players to see an impact.  If Burke played football and was recruited on to a roster of 60 Novak's and Douglus type players, wins would be far tougher.  You can only go so far in football on heart and grit.  At some point you just get blasted off the line.

 

So in summary I think we can safely conclude that teams with good players have a better chance to win.  Furthermore a team of darkhorse 2 stars would have the same chance to beat a team of 5 star studs if they both had equal talent and there were equal numbers of them.   The key comes down to how many good players do you have.

 

6 weeks 6 days ago Nothing against Burke

I have no problems if Burke leaves early.   It is his life.  Michigan will adjust.  Perhaps the ceiling will not be as high.  But we will have an opportunity to recruit some one else next year.

In regards to Burke leaving, it is a very immature decision.  Everything I have read is that he would most likely go undrafted.  A lot of underclassmen PG's are also declaring early.  The NBA is about raw physical ability.  At sub 6 feet Burke has to be a complete player or have some obscene ability that is extraordinary even in the NBA .  He has shown neither.  I agree with some of the other posters that Moris has a better NBA game and he is stuck in the minor leagues.  Burke showed some very nice things.  However, he did not show that consistant domination that you expect from a NBA style player going up against inferior competition.

Well good luck. It is his choice.

 

 

9 weeks 3 days ago Thankyou Novak and Douglass

We got a hint that the NCAA tourney was going to be tough when a motivated Minnesota team pretty much blanked Novak and Douglass.  Those guys overachieved during the regular season.  They hit big shots against MSU/OSU at home.  Without them there is no Big10 cochampionship.  However, when you get to a one and done and everyone is bringing their A game, they were outmatched atheltically.  I was really shocked when the Big Men on a MAC team were physcially quicker than them.  The author of this article and others has done a nice job pointing out how because of Novak and Douglass this team achieved far more then we could ever expect.  The foundation has been set for bigger things.  Without Novak and Douglass it might not have happened.  We should remember them if a couple years from now UM is making a final four run.

9 weeks 6 days ago Measuring recruiting agencies

It has been pointed out that many recruits get an uptick just because of the school they commit to.  For example ND gets excited about a recruit and he gets two more stars.

The other item that concerns me is that unless a recruit fails to develop physically, he will attract interest and be drafted regardless of how dismally he learned football skills.  If you run fast, stop on a dime, jump really high, and rep a lot of benches you will get drafted.  This may be because the former NFL'ers at power programs do well.  Even if they fail, the physical measurables will give that player a look.  Yet a 3 star who got that star because of physical liabilities might be a good college football player but just not good enough to go on.

What I think would be interesting is instead of using the NFL for a barameter for success something along the lines of how many starts did that player generate for the program and how did that player stack up against his peers.  A guy picked as the best DE and goes on to be a day one draft pick would be valued less then a 2 star who started 3 years, ranked in the top 3rd, but maybe just did not have the atheltic ability to go on.

Playing devils advocate on myself then how do you seperate someone who is just better at evaluting talent?  What if that coach knows that 3star is actually 5 star material and only he has figured it out?

 

 

 

10 weeks 3 days ago Unifying the Michigan Family

Most people only care about winning.  As we saw down in Columbus it does not matter if you are cheating as long as you are winning.  I do not have anything personal against Hoke.  He seems to be a good guy.  But the fact  quoting RVB where were all those players before?  I do not accept that it was a few vocal cockroaches.  It really bothers me because "Michigan Men" were supposed to be different and the Michigan program was different.  Yet Michigan Men are not much different from the rest of the humanity.  We hate and loathe what is different from us and what we do not understand.

If Rich Rod were a Sunni living in a Shitte neighborhood or a Muslim in Serbia, or a black african in Dafur he would have been dumped on the same way.  He was not a better or worse man then any other.  All that can be said was he was different.  And because he was different he was hated.  As far as I am concerned the Michigan Men behaved little better then middle school cliques.

Welcome to the rest of humanity Michigan Men.

 

 

 

11 weeks 3 days ago Basketball more impressive then football

For me it is not even close and this is why.  Basketball has many more games.  Good and bad fortune have less of an impact.  In basketball a good or bad break impacts your record by 3%.  You also have to play everyone.  Also because the sample space is larger the breaks even out.  The football team had a lot of good fortune.  Notre Dame had the game won on multiple fronts and thankfully lost it.  We did not have to play Wisconsin.  We were completely outcoached in the OSU game and won because a true frosh who had lit us up missed a wide open receiver for a TD.  And lastly we won a bowl game because a call rightfully got overturned and someone missed a FG.  Those are all bang bang situations and they could all just as easily go against you.  In football you can get a favorable schedule if the teams that matter are at home.  Not so in basketball where you play most teams twice, once at home and once away.

The other major item is that the football team had pretty much everyone returning including the QB.  The basketball team lost the equivalent of their QB.   Now basketball is not as technical as football.  It is easier for a basketball player to step in.  However, no one expected Burke to be arguably the best PG in the Big10 by the end of his freshmen year.  In football this would be equivalent to someone graduating their QB and the frosh replacement being first team all Big10.

Lastly, the basketball team was thinner in terms of the recruting ranking of the players on the floor and number of bodies available.  For all practical purposes this team ran six deep.  They won despite Hardaway strugling and multple players having to play out of position.  We had a 6 4 power forward and a shooting forwardhaving to play backup center.  I still find it amazing this team won 13 games in the Big10.  I really look forward to what Beilein can do talent and depth. 

 

 

12 weeks 3 days ago 225 pound bench press

I made a comment on the Martin 50 rep thread also.  In summary there is a lot of variables.  The basic issue is work equals force times distance.  A six foot man with long arms may have to exert twice as much work to do the same rep as a five foot five man with shorter arms.  On paper the short guy might be stronger.  But when they line up on the football field there will be little doubt what happens if the short guy is trying to get around someone like a Mike Adams that everyone is now calling weak.

Football is also a game measured in five second bursts of power.  Some folks make a point that perhaps the extra reps are due to the ability to ignore pain.  That may be a positve measurable.  However, I would be a lot more interested in how many reps someone could do of the following technique.   You determine your 1 rep limit and go slightly below.  Lift it, rest ten seconds, do it again.  Keep going until you cannot.

I think the press is useful for some things.  But as we well know lots of guys with big numbers do not equate to success.  Football is ultimately a game of force impulse or power.  It is not how strong you are, but how quickly you can leverage your strength.  Suh is considered a once in a decade talent not because he is strong but because he is powerful.  The two are different.

 

12 weeks 3 days ago Benchpress test just eye candy

I know it is fun to set a goal, but the benchpress is really a bit overrated when measuring strength.  When you are trying to do 50 reps of something it is no longer a strength issue but a measure of endurance.  Do 50 of anything and see how long it takes.  Since football is played in 5 second increments I am far more interested in a players strength move over that period and how fast they can recover to do it again in 30 seconds.

Also missed out is work equals force times distance.  A six foot eight tackle in the Mike Adams build is going to have a much more difficult time then someone who has a more squat build and shorter arms.   So anyone presuming he is not strong is being foolish.

These measurables along with 40 times and what not are nice.  But they are as meaningful as measuring football skill as the SAT is for measuring inteligence.  Just an arbitrary test.  Losts of real strong guys can't make it in the NFL because their strength/endurance does not equat to the impulse power that really determines success.  Ditto for real fast guys do not make the league because they can't cut or stop on a dime.

Suh benched 225 32 times.  Presuming Martin is capable of benching 225 50 times and actually did, would anyone even entertain the possibility that the two are remotely close?  No, because the play on the field is what is more important.

12 weeks 5 days ago Rivalry

I think from a pure numbers perspective that OSU should expect to have the upper hand.  It will always be easier for OSU to recruit in Ohio then Michigan.  Michigan may be able to poach some players because of scheme.  But I just see it real tough for UM to go head to head against a recruiter like Meyer.

I am also of the opinion that OSU will have a decided advantage because they will be going spread.  I believe that when teams are equal a spread team will beat a power team.  It is just a matter of numbers.  The QB being a threat to run means there is one more person to defend.  That all said the spread can be vulnerable if you do not have a QB to run it.  I would say that Meyer has someone who can run his system for the next three years.

The only thing that could stop OSU is if their staff does not come together.  Now that is a very real possibility.

 

 

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