Now, THIS is how you NIL...
And here we go............
I am not against players being paid, but this is going to be a s***show..
Good, because Bama winning 5 of the last 10 NCs and the playoffs being OSU, Clemson, Bama, and one random every year is a shit show I'm sick of watching.
Well, if you think this just brings the bag-men out into the open and makes it legit for us to pay our players under the guise of NIL the way SEC teams have for years, then maybe it will help us.
It will still be a s***show though, as teams and boosters come up with more and more ridiculous ways to funnel money to players.
I don't pretend to know how it will pan out, but as far as I can tell any change is good at this point because CFB is boring and more predictable than it's ever been in my lifetime of 42 years on this earth. No team has ever won half of the NCs in a decade prior to Bama doing so from 2010s since Yale did so in the 1890s. Let that time frame sink in. That's over 100 years ago. No one has had Bama's dominance in over a century.
In the last 11 recruiting classes from 2011 - 2021 Bama has had the #1 class in 9 of those 11 years. In 2020 Bama had the #2 recruiting class. In 2018 Bama had the #5 recruiting class. Every other year they had the #1 recruiting class. Something needs to change.
We're too deep into the super-team era for NIL rights to derail the status quo at this point. Honestly, I feel going back to the 1990's era is about the only way this will get solved (and of course it will never happen) - before NBA super-teams, recruiting websites, social media, expanded conferences, playoffs, BCS, conference championship games, expanded seasons and online classes there was real parity. Why? It was a more regional based game. 2-4 teams a year in each conference could potentially call themselves "conference champions". The national championship wasn't black and white. The midwest had more population to recruit from. Players didn't leave non-elite teams at the drop of a hat. Using the law of large numbers to your advantage by playing at a blistering pace was considered a gimmick. Defenses were allowed to hit someone.
It probably isn't popular to say but NIL rights aren't going to change the larger problems in my opinion. I do agree though - CFB is boring. The problem is that the changes made by the NCAA/ Conferences/AD's and things that changed naturally (population shift, etc.) in the last 20-25 years have made it that way.
Not that you were necessarily making a contrary point, but NIL has nothing to do with improving parity. It doesn't really matter what the impact is on parity because stripping those rights from student athletes never should have happened in the first place.
I agree, but there seems to be a large percentage of people on this blog that think NIL is going to start adding parity back to the game (especially in regards to Michigan) and that I disagree with that wholeheartedly. I do not think NIL will result in anything more than marginal recruiting gains for Michigan relative to everyone else, and even if it did recruiting is far down on my list of what's wrong with Michigan's program anyways.
Something needs to change.
I hope you don't mean rules changes. I think there's a level playing field right now. Alabama was not this good before Nick Saban was there. I don't want to penalize Saban because he has built a dynasty. I don't want rules changes to help make 'a level playing field' when there already is one. Saban is just a brilliant football mind, or maybe I should say, he's a brilliant leader. Jim Harbaugh needs to put a whole lot more time and thought into choosing his staff of coaches, and expect more out of them. That's the change that needs to happen. I don't want to hear any more stories like, hey I needed a coach, so I did some google searching, and saw one that looked good, I called him, and he flew in right away. If it looks like there is a tilted playing field for Alabama it's not. Nick Saban is just really good. He wasn't always as good as he is now. But he kept getting better. And I think he is still working at getting better today. Jim Harbaugh needs to get really good too.
Alabama was not this good before Nick Saban was there. I don't want to penalize Saban because he has built a dynasty. I don't want rules changes to help make 'a level playing field' when there already is one.
But, what if Bama is only as good as they are because they cheat aka pay recruits? In the last 11 years they've had the #1 recruiting class in 9 of those 11 years. We know recruiting equals wins and they win in recruiting first and foremost. And, they started recruiting at an elite level before ever winning anything of significance. Saban's first year at Bama was 2007. They went 7-6. In 2008 they had the #3 class. They never signed lower than the #5 class for next 14 years. That's fishy. It's logical to think that NIL will prevent the stockpiling of recruits at a small number of schools.
Everything you wrote starting with, “...he’s a brilliant leader” is so spot on. I don’t think Harbaugh himself would disagree at least to the extent that he talks about always getting better every day. This whole business of spending minutes to hire a coach, by phone or Google, when you (Harbaugh) have maybe the best network of connections in all of football is incredibly dumb.
"Something needs to change". A lot of green things have been changing all along. Anyone who thinks you can build that kind of dynasty for this long on the "up and up" is flat out stupid. Meyer coming from Florida said the Big has to be "like" the SEC and by golly if he didn't put the money where his mouth was. Now OSU has got that part of it figured out and they are trying to replicate Alabama's success. Let's not kid ourselves thinking Michigan or any other team doesn't dish out the dollars as well but it's the level and depth of the dishing out that makes the difference. It's not a team sport anymore, it's all about the Benjamins.
"...this just brings the bag-men out into the open and makes it legit for us to pay our players"
I've posted similar thoughts twice today and apparently lost "Points" somehow.
I concur. If you think a $6,000 payout is "how you NIL", I guarantee you the SEC will have $60k in the background and $6k up front to make it look legit.
And looking at OSU as well.
I highly, highly, doubt NIL rights alone are going to change a single thing about the status quo.
He wasn't wrong. It's just that the cabal kept the technology given to us by the ET races from the public to maintain control over society.
That is my favorite f-ing quote.
It is proof that you cannot see the end from the beginning.
However, I think it was first quoted in the 1800’s and the first time I heard it, it was attributed to Lord Kelvin.
Edit: I guess1899 was the 1800’s
The kids are going to go where they can get paid (probably like they always have). If Clemson, Bama and OSU are willing to pay more in our new NIL world, then they'll stay on top. But maybe Texas, LSU and USC will pay more and they'll be dominant in 5 years. Either way, at least we'll know why.
I highly, highly, doubt NIL rights alone are going to change a single thing about the status quo.
Again, I can't claim to know how it will pan out. Maybe it won't change anything. Maybe it will lead to a small cultural shift at UM where we no longer think we are better than everyone else on our high horse of moral, ethical, and academic superiority and realize...shit we're paying players already, we might as well do it for real and start doing what Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. are probably already doing. I don't believe this current cultural belief we seem to be operating under existed in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. We didn't accept mediocrity then and shouldn't now just because UM is a good school. Now, we've given up on being competitive with OSU. There was a time when UM could get the #1 overall class. It last happened in 1999. In 2001 we had the #3 class, in 2003 the #5 class, in 2004 the #6 class, & in 2005 the #5 class. There is no reason we can't do that again. Sure, we need better coaching, development, and player retention, but recruiting matters. It matters a lot.
And, in addition to NIL maybe playoff expansion will help kids that want to be in the playoffs go to a larger pool of good, but not elite programs not named Bama, Clemson, & OSU. Again, I don't know how it will play out. Maybe it won't mean shit. But, there has never been less parity in college football and it's not because Saban is any better than Woody, Bo, Osborne, Meyer, Carroll, etc. Something is wrong with the last 10-15 years and we need change. A little change often leads to larger changes because it changes how we perceive things like how college players should be compensated and what the playoffs should look like. We just jumped off the slippery slope that I guarantee will lead to other things we haven't yet considered. With any luck it will lead to more parity. Maybe not in 2021 or 2022. But, I'd be surprised if 2023-2033 is as predictable as 2010-2020 was.
I repeat, prior to the 1992 Olympics the IOC dumped their version of amateurism. The athletes got paid; we got to watch pro sports league athletes play in the Olympics, the end.
I don't know how differences with college sports will raise issues we didn't see with the Olympics. My mind is open, but I've not heard any specifics about what the "s--- show" will look like. The only thing I can imagine is the NCAA coming up with some half-assed hybrid that is unenforceable, and then they selectively enforce it to the benefit of all the usual suspects.
Why do people keep saying this? It is what it is, and the most imaginative and the team willing to do what it takes (inside the lines) will make the most of the situation, until the NCAA rolls it back. Michigan should do this tomorrow. Imagine using that travel money from Germany and Africa for something similar.
Or it'll make it a free market instead of being controlled by bag men.
until the NCAA clamps down on bag men, the free market won't take over. Why? Because taxes
This argument again. There's a lot more money in above board activity. Think of how much athletic departments raise from boosters and fans. That money absolutely dwarfs bags. Do people think we have like a 90% tax rate?
A shit show UM has a decided advantage from having loaded donors out the ass
But, what about the children? Who's thinking of the children?
I hope Michigan boosters are taking notes
Stephen Ross should just dump $90M in his Soul Cycle marketing budget right now.
Andrel Anthony just got signed on to Barstool. Portnoy has a few Michigan athletes now.
You are not allowed to comment on that here. Michigan players signing a deal with an outfit presided over by a Michigan alum discussion is not welcome on a Michigan blog. Its in the rules.
Jace Howard = Barstool athlete too
It's a matter of time before you are reported to rob f for this non-compliance.
I hope Michigan boosters are taking notes
I hope it's not notes on how to double down on their self imposed moral high ground.
NIL is a joke, already. There is no way that guy pictured in the twitter link has any eligibility left, yet thanks to NIL, here we are.
So can MGoBlog now crowdfund money to be used to pay recruits, I mean, the esteemed student athletes attending the University of Michigan?
I'm in for $100.
Yes, they could.
Any MGoBlog sponsored player must be willing to wear something with Henri on it or something along these lines. I think that, at the level we could potentially crowdsource around here, we deserve to have some of the blog's inside jokes emblazoned on apparel for that specific person.
Hmmm... We could advertise the MGoCamping trip! Be sure to bring canned gravy, though.
I'm voting for Hideki
Mr. Blue patch
I vote for a haiku,
That will soon be considered a tiny amount and be an embarrassment.
For now, kudos to having everyone on the team get the same amount and it stretches over the full time of being at Miami.
Yeah, the egalitarian nature of it almost makes you feel like it is legit. Until you see where it is inevitably going to go.
Tiny amount>nil?
NIL>nil
That's it?
I've always thought having some type of "super PAC" external marketing fund that gets distributed evenly as a baseline would be a nice advantage for a team. Say Michigan is able to accumulate some type of trust thats set up specifically to pay every scholarship player, would be a nice selling point maybe for players not looking to go out and do the whole marketing/appearances etc...players could still go out and land additional deals of course.
Larry Page is worth $100 billion right?
Get him (or other rich alumni) to put $100 million in an NIL fund. Then U of M can take out 4% every year to pay out $4 million to the football team. That's around $44,000 per player every year.
I have asked this often, not sure I have ever got a clear answer, but has Larry ever given any meaningful amount, commensurate with his net worth, to Michigan?
Much like SMR gave a $100 or $200 million to name the business school, if Larry were to give 1/10 OF one percent (.001) of his net worth, that would be $100 million.