New UM Statement
November 17th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^
Not given those asshats a click
November 17th, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^
in the words of my toddlers, "here go"
November 17th, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^
Beautiful example of how the arrangement of sentences / sequencing of information can be used to say something without saying it.
On its face, the line about Partridge is completely disconnected from the other sentences. But there's no mystery about why it was included.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:10 PM ^
Well it's a link to Twitter (ahem, X), so not giving ESPN a click. But I'd argue it's giving an even worse entity a click.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^
What is happening? This is the craziest circus I have ever witnessed and that is not a knock on Michigan. All I have to say is wow!
November 17th, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^
All of this shit for something that probably didn't even make a difference on the field. Ffs
November 17th, 2023 at 1:15 PM ^
Yes, it certainly did! I mean, it's the biggest scandal in Big Ten history! Michigan's capitulation yesterday proved it true. Michigan admitted that everything anyone ever said is true. There is no walking anything back.
And so now the national narrative is that Michigan spent three years cheating and caved because there has to be another bombshell that was covered up with the 'deal' to submit.
I mean, if Partridge and a booster payment to an analyst are that bombshell, who fucking cares? That's piddling shit compared to what the NCAA has let slide over the years...
November 17th, 2023 at 1:25 PM ^
The problem VaBlue is the slow drip. Yesterday, we thought this was a rogue operation funded by parents. Today, we know a booster was involved and a coach fired. What will it be tomorrow?
This is all embarrassing.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
Pretty much every CFB program ever accused of wrong-doing tried to pin it on a 'rogue staffer'. It's called 'insulation'.
These are the dark arts of college football and no place for the squeamish or moral paragons. Let's just be glad this one didn't involving whoring out young girls (which we now know was common practice in the programs run by one coach that Michigan fans at one point were eager to hire and whose hiring Kirk Herbstreit supposedly sabotaged).
The 'lone wolf' theory works for us, and I expect Michigan to run with that line and never confess to anything they can't prove. But I'm also not going to pretend like I'd be shocked if it was anything but. I'd only be appalled if they were dumb enough to leave behind evidence.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
I've heard it called, 'firewalling' and, 'plausible deniability.'
November 17th, 2023 at 5:35 PM ^
They should have fought harder from the beginning to prevent it. Why is it that no bad press comes out about the SEC and OSU? Is it because they don't do anything illegal? No, it's because if anyone ever tries to even say a word, they snuff it out. When the NCAA comes calling, they say to fuck off. The conference usually will try to protect the brands and the programs of the teams that are part of it.
This stuff isn't even bad, it's just the optics of PR that Michigan let get out of control that make it seem bad. The crime is the same, and the crime is minimal. Control the narrative by undermining the NCAA and the B1G.
UNC had players taking fake classes! They had nothing happen. Kansas got caught by the FBI! They got the same punishment as Harbaugh, 5 years later!
November 17th, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^
Please stop rationalizing. Michigan holds itself to a standard that is arguably higher than most, and many of us are fine with that.
If anyone has been involved with known wrongdoing, their departure is appropriate at this point. Too often, the cover up is worse than the "crime".
You had the head coach, AD, University President, and Regents stick out their collective necks. Anyone involved in withholding information won't survive that.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^
Completely and utterly agree with this! Anyone caught with a hand inthe cookie jar needs to be dealt with appropriately - no argument with that. My problem is accepting the Harbaugh suspension for no reason, no deal, and no stop in the drip.
At least stand for the principle of following due process - something for which this country purports to hold dearly in high value. A loss in court is explainable if your standing on a valid principle. Abject submission is nothing more than admission of guilt.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^
what deal are you hoping to get when the NCAA tells you "hey there's more going on here"?
like idk man, this is bad. If you want to argue Stallions did nothing wrong you are free to argue that
November 17th, 2023 at 2:23 PM ^
Whether Jim/UM accepted the suspension or continued to fight it, the drip would still continue. But have none of us yet considered that the decision to drop the suspension was falling on the sword in an attempt mitigate any potential future penalty that the NCAA may levy on us? I'm all but convinced that coach is going move on after this season, and that yesterday's decision to stop seeking the TRO combined with coach moving on the NFL will be the school's attempt to avoid the heaviest of hammers coming down from the NCAA. I wish I felt better about all of this, but I'm not optimistic.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^
Michigan admitted that everything anyone ever said is true.
Take a deep breath man.
If Partridge destroyed evidence relevant to the investigation, that's a fireable offense.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^
That’s not his view. That is the perception outside of the program.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
The perception outside the program is that we cheated and everyone within the program knew it and is lying about it. The perception outside the program is we talked for years about being above it all and the second we got caught doing something we threw all of our toys out of our crib.
If you think we were winning before this and now we've lost you're in denial
November 17th, 2023 at 6:03 PM ^
From a Michigan fan who lives outside of Michigan, the funny thing is, the national narrative is not "Michigan is a school of cheaters." Instead, everyone I speak to — except for fans of other football teams, who of course enjoy the opportunity to rip on us, just as we do them — is either confused, uninterested, or sympathetic.
I still think most of the outrage here is based on some weird sense of pride, or on a sense of panic that we're going to be perceived as "the bad guys." But that's simply not true. All we have to say — or at least all we had to say before Partridge was fired — was, "yeah, one low-level staffer tried way too hard to impress his boss, and did things without authorization he shouldn't have. Once we learned of it, we suspended him, not a big deal, let's move on."
Instead for some reason we reacted like it was a five alarm fire. I know people blame the media, but honestly, if we had just conceded the fuck-up, emphasized it was one low-level guy and that Harbaugh had no idea about it, and agreed that some kind of minor penalty was probably fair, it would not be a major national story. We turned it into a crisis and major scandal by digging our feet in, screaming about how unfair it is, and insulting everyone who has any kind of different opinion.
Talk about self-inflected wounds. The rest of the country does not care about this story, no matter how much the TV networks, desperate for something to talk about it, harp on it. Just smile, shrug, and move on.
November 17th, 2023 at 11:43 PM ^
Most non Bigten fans and even most rational of them still feel this is rediculous and everyone scouts with video. To think otherwise is nieve and childish. Sad that Michigan leadership never knows how to control the narrative and always reacts instead of attacks.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:24 PM ^
You know I just spent a week on a cruise without internet, 99% disconnected from all of this after obsessing the prior month and it felt very relaxing. Now I’m coming back and seeing all the discourse I missed and finding myself aggravated again.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:30 PM ^
As a wise Mgoblogger posted today, "It wasn't necessary."
November 17th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^
We're probably gonna have to vacate 100 years of wins, and won't be bowl eligible until 2100. We're just lucky nobody is getting burned at the stake.
November 17th, 2023 at 8:03 PM ^
I heard a rumor today that the NCAA, all B1G Coaches, ADs, Finebaum, Stephen A and the CCCP officials in Beijing have all stated that the only acceptable outcome here is that Coach Harbaugh gets roasted at the steak, over coals , with mushrooms, and cooked medium. Outside of that they’d accept the sacrifice of Desmond Howard moving from ESPN to Fox.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^
That's enough for today, right?
The MGoBoard has basically been one big jump-scare for the past hour or so.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^
I'm so dizzy that if I stand up, I'll fall over.
All of this sh!t was supposed to die down after the capitulation yesterday. WRONG!!!
November 17th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^
Nope there will be more today.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^
According to all the info I been able to gather - the B1G is NOT investigating anything.
Which means the NCAA must be in constant contact with the B1G and updating them hourly. Besides all the media "leaks".
November 17th, 2023 at 12:51 PM ^
Old Michigan is the only Michigan. I have no doubt Santa tried, but Michigan is going to Michigan.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^
Yeah you don't just go changing an institution that's existed since 1817 overnight.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:54 PM ^
Best avatar/username/comment combo in a minute
November 17th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^
at this point what do you want Michigan to do? Announce we're leaving the NCAA and go play in the CFL?
Some of you are totally delusional about what is actually happening here
November 17th, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^
I'd like for some folks with the program to do the right thing. Let's start there and then work our way up on our Christmas wishlist.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Define the right thing here. Not fire Partridge for doing something that would get literally anyone fired?
November 17th, 2023 at 1:24 PM ^
You are delusional. You can’t be in league with people who will stab you in the back.
This entire situation is due to OSU hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Michigan. They found some unfortunately. Michigan will now pay the price.
OSU went the mudslinging route to harm UM’s program. That is intolerable and cause for a separation.
Living on your knees is pathetic and disgraceful. Too many on here are willing to be OSU’s whipping boy. Fucking pathetic.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^
There is zero proof OSU hired anybody to do anything. Even if they did, you admit the investigation found something. What is Michigan supposed to do with that? Say "fuck yeah and we'd do it again"?
Like come on now, be serious for a second. Michigan fighting back is making us look worse, we are losing the PR battle here not winning it. Other people do not care if sign stealing is legal sometimes and illegal other times, they do not care who started it, etc. It all looks like equivocating, like "c'mon let us get away with this one because other people are bad too!" At a certain point you need to man up as a program and start playing ball and once you reach the "coach who we can't definitely prove knew and tried to cover it up" stage of the scandal you're pretty close to that point if not well beyond it.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
What credible evidence is there that OSU hired an investigative firm? The NCAA has already denied this connection. It more than likely turned up during the Weiss investigation, unless I missed something. Please don’t say it’s because Balas or Webb said it. They were both claiming Ryan Day’s brother did it, which was a troll job by Zach Smith.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
The OSU boards knew about this whole mess at least a month before any public / official accusations were made.
Of course they're behind it. Don't be stupid.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:42 PM ^
The NCAA said they have no evidence that Ryan Day is connected. Most likely scenario is that this came from the OSU version of Mr. T.
And anyway, it’s clearly a rival, who else would dump a bunch of money into a PI hit on a football program?
November 17th, 2023 at 5:37 PM ^
They also said Harbaugh had nothing to do with it, but somehow he's not coaching against OSU. Weird.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:51 PM ^
Please kill me.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:03 PM ^
In the words of Livia Soprano, “go into the ham, take the carving knife, and stab me now. It would hurt less.”
November 17th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^
Well, they need to focus more. What we've seen so far is no due process and an unfair, expedited investigation.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^
Am wondering out loud: Who's next?
November 17th, 2023 at 1:13 PM ^
From the rumor rumblings it will be Clink and Jay. I wonder how Jim’s going to react if he feels Jay is mistreated by the administration? Whatever, those are just rumors so I’ll think about it if it happens.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^
Why do you think Harbaugh is heading for the NFL. It was one of his coaches now his neck is on the line. Before it was this analysis acting on his own, now we know this is not true. I think if Harbaugh leaves the NCAA sanctions will be less severe!
November 17th, 2023 at 12:52 PM ^
So the NCAA is going through the process but has been trickling info to the B10 so they could act sooner. This is just great, imma go drink some gasoline.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:00 PM ^
So, yet again, the NCAA doesn't have to abide by their own bylaws. Fan-fucking-tastic.